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This is your topic, we have decimated it, by running away you show that you cannot defend it and realise we are intellectually superior!

Fancsali: Its hard to nitpick back when I agree with you... and I shouldn't agree with you... obviusly you suck in some way to make arguments that makes sense to me....

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I feel that so much of my good humor is lost on 90% of this forum. sad So sad. Take Xeno here... Nevermind. He's depressing by himself.

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"we have decimated it"


No, you only think you have.

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It was over before it ever began.

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Xeno: you only think that because you cannot understand anything, mostly because you are too young for your brain to have developed fully, but partly because you are lacking in ability and general intelligence...

in short you are stupid and have shown it through 6 pages here and 20 in the other thread

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Xeno. Admit you can't defend your arguments and move on.

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Step #5

Build a rain-water catchment system on the roof of the tree house. Rain water off the roof runs into the tree-house's upper water tank, where is it purified and used for drinking water, washing.  Waste water runs through to flush toilets before reaching the secondary storage tank.  This waste water runs through filtration system where waste water is further liquefied and run through a hydro-electrical generator that produces electricity until it runs down to a third filtration tank underground.  Wind turbines on the rain catchment area of the tree house not only produces more electricity for the home, but also pumps purified filtrated water from septic system back up the tree to the secondary waste-water storage tank,  storing the energy as water at the top.  The top of the rain-catchment system also has solar panels that produce power.  Solid organic waste separated from the water underground is released from septic system periodically to be absorbed as nutrients by the tree's roots.

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wait how big is this house? and how insanely expensive?

Also be interesting to see how much power it consumes making all this work compared to how much it will actually produce...

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Here I'll try to lend a hand and clarify xeno's statements:

"where is it [MAGICALLY] purified and used for drinking water, washing." (word mix up was his. copy and paste doesn't make those errors!)

"This waste water runs through filtration system where waste water is further liquefied [You read that correctly: The water is further liquified.] and run through a hydro-electrical generator [Because the amount of water that a person conserving water uses really generates a lot of electricity when it falls 10 feet... This is not a horrendously ignorant statement demonstrating a completely lack of knowledge. I swear. Trust me. Just take my word.] that produces electricity until it runs down to a third filtration tank underground [Which is bottomless and will store my shit water forever for no purpose]."

Yeah, You_Fool. My first thought was to wonder how long his solar panels/hydro-electric generators/turbines would take to produce as much electricity it took to produce them. Considering the hydro-electric generators would never produce anything and wind/solar panels are dependent upon where the "house" is located, I doubt a million of these across the globe would see one ever begin to get near producing as much energy as was consumed to produce it.

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"wait how big is this house? and how insanely expensive?"

Granted.  Expense, just like any mass-produced product, would be an issue for the first model.  But, again just like any mass-produced product, the expense of production would lessen with each subsequent production.  And considering the potential market for such homes, I would guess the cost of production would become affordable for the average person after mass-producing one million of them? 

But the actual purchase price could be lessened considering that with any home you buy, a large amount of the price is for the land upon which the home stands.  Now, as the home could be constructed off-grid where municipal infrastructure isn't necessary, in entirely undeveloped areas, the price of land would be minimal.  Secondly, the actual floorspace of the home would take up only perhaps a 25 square meters, and above-ground at that.  The only ground level space required would be about a square meter of land around the tree trunk.

Thus although the homes themselves might cost a lot per unit during the initial stages of production, because of the lower cost of land, I think even during initial stages of production, homes could sell for the same or even lower price than the average cost of a traditional home.

"Also be interesting to see how much power it consumes making all this work compared to how much it will actually produce..."

Does that really matter as long as there is a positive ratio?

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And, because governments are becoming more aware of environmental issues, the economic repercussions of climate change, etc., governments might give cost incentives for such projects, seeing as how such tree-house communities would be economically and ecologically sustainable, such as cheap leases for x number of years of land use, with the option of purchasing it after so many years.  Seeing as how the land value of such areas would go up after the construction of such communities, the governments might even make a handsome profit.  Profit is something governments tend to like, you see...

In any case, there could be many measures taken to decrease the final purchase price of such homes, even during the initial production process.  After a market for such homes has been established, the homes could be produced to be easily affordable by people in developing countries, too.

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That's the point xeno. You wouldn't have a positive ratio.

No matter how many of your magical homes could be produced, mass production does not magically make the costs of producing generators, solar panels, and turbines, and the many other technological monsters you speak of being in them cheaper.

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You know reading that really does hammer home how naieve, stupid and completly delusional Xeno is... i would take apart his posts, but it's too easy and so too boring to do...

Xeno everything you said was shit and wrong, every word... no matter how much you want it to be true...

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It's wrong on the most basic levels. We point it out, but on he posts without looking at how backwards he has it. I've had enough of the embarassing 10 year olds special ed kids. We did what we could.

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fine sad maybe i will go over and start flaming Flint then...

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"Xeno everything you said was shit and wrong, every word... no matter how much you want it to be true..."

Because you say so?  Show me how I'm wrong, You_Fool, instead of just insulting me without backing anything up.  It just makes you look like a fool, but I guess that's what you're going for, isn't it?

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Many of us have pointed out PLENTY of places where you were dead wrong in your statements xeno. We don't really have to go on after that. When half of everything you base an idea on is completely false, obviously your idea is fiction.

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This tree house uses geothermal power, too.  Nice, but a bit too expensive, I think.

''The jury really liked the Tree House,'' Ms. Nadel said. ''It is very distinct in how it blends in with the environment -- there is nothing like it.''

The four-story 38-foot-high residence rises from a fern-carpeted ravine to a dense canopy of leaves. Set on two acres in Cold Spring Harbor, the approximately $350,000 house will be the home of ''a bachelor who had a house on the adjoining property but now wants to move into a natural lifestyle,'' according to Eduardo LaCroze, the principal of the company's Long Island office.

Each floor of the house is 20 by 20 feet. The first two floors, which include the garage, entrance and utility rooms on the first level and the kitchen and living room on the second, have a bluestone exterior and are built into the natural slope of the ravine. The third level contains the guest quarters, including a bedroom and bath; and, the fourth includes the master suite and a penthouse deck. The upper two levels are wrapped in copper. The house is heated and cooled with geothermal energy, which is ''highly efficient, heating and cooling the house through an exchange of the hot and cold energy contained in the soil,'' Mr. LaCroze said.

''The building was conceived as a tree,'' with a green top and a weathered lower section, he said. ''Down the road, the copper will turn green and the bluestone will weather, and the house will melt into the slope and be camouflaged into the densely wooded site.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/02/realestate/in-the-region-long-island-courthouse-and-tree-house-win-architects-awards.html?pagewanted=2

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This one is cheaper, but rather cramped, and a little complicated.   Maybe linking 4 or 5 of them together might work, beut I think something even simpler could be made.

http://uk.green.yahoo.com/blog/environmentalgraffiti/166/the-amazing-hobbit-tree-house.html;_ylt=Ary0d4w9WCA5H307sgoNxWpojscX