im just gonna sling abunch of reasons why the US doesnt ban guns to speed this conversation ip. banning guns in the US is completely unrealistic. yeah, if the two guys didnt have guns, they wouldnt of shot anyone. but just because theres laws against possessing guns doesnt mean they wouldnt have them. there are more guns in the hand of US civilians then there are US civilians. we also have huge borders and huge economy that makes keeping guns from being shipped to the US impossible. we also have overflowing jails and more people in jail per capita then any other country in the world, we wouldnt be able to afford to put very srtict punishments for people caught with guns . there have been large cities in the US that have banned the civilian possesion of firearms, and the number of homicides in those cities rose after they banned guns. banning guns makes it so only criminals have guns. and finally no matter how much trouble guns cause, our right to bear arms is as important as our rights to vote and free speach, and there would be millions if not tens of millions of law abiding citizens that would not put up with strict regulation of guns and would forcfully overthrow our government before allowing it.

LA seems to be a nice city.

> Glacias wrote:

> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/28/black.friday.violence/index.html

Hopefully BlackWing and Flint...
This is why I so strongly oppose fire arms. If the two j*rks wouldn't have had these guns with them noone would have died, they would have wrestled a little and it would have been over. The worst thing about this is that the bullets could have hit innocent people standing around them. The USA should seriously rethink their Second(?) Amendment, we here in Europe do really fine without fire arms being officially allowed. M*ronic cowboys.

You oppose fire Arms? Then i bet your one of those people who want the death sentence abolished...

Good lord.. if they were so content to hurt each other, trust me.. there are weapons everywhere..

Oppose Fire Arms? How many innocent lives have been saved by Fire Arms? YOU RARELY HEAR ABOUT THE USE OF A FIRE ARM IN DEFENSE OF INNOCENTS.

The Right to bear arms, is in order to protect yourself, your family, and your possessions, you obviously have never live anywhere in which a fire arm was required just to walk to your car...

But then again, i love Fire Arms, passionately, i feel in love with Recreational Firearms when i was 8, and when i was in the Marines, i fell in love with the Killing Machines that i was allowed to play with...

Considering.. i never feel right with out my Fire Arm at my side, thats me, but also it's allot others, they have saved more lives then you even know...

IGNORANCE ----?

I shall see you dead for such ignorance.. The firing squad with you.

I just want to point out that it can't be flint because neither the shooting incident or the crushing incident occurred in Oregon.

Really...another gun thread?  Why do you guys even bother with politics if half of what's here are re-runs?  It's like watching the episodes of Whose's Line on ABC family - it's the same freaking thing every week!

yes didnt we just have one a month ago that ended in a stalemate?

So we should wish they had frankish axes instead?

> lmperial wrote:

> > The Yell wrote:

> So we should wish they had frankish axes instead?

Yar, and some 13 year old with a camera phone would upload it to Youtube, that video would then become another of the many Iconic symbols of the New Generation.

The guy that killed himself on a live streaming vid wasn't enough for you?

Bah!  Go t' 4chan, and dinna spare the whip!  You'll get all th' gore an' trollin' ye want.

Arrr.

>This is why I so strongly oppose fire arms

Everyone in Europe gets stabbed. The problem isn't fire arms, the problem is stupid people. Have you ever shot a fire arm? Target shooting is a lot of fun. Banning fire arms in the US would turn out to be a lot like prohibition. Rather then banning alchol, we should encourage parents to teach their kids responsible drinking. Fire arms are the same way.