Topic: Einstein takes the lead

So I have been BUSY this election season.

First I was with Stand for Principle Super PAC, but left in December over differences in who they were targeting (I said Trump was the real threat).

Next I was with the Ted Cruz campaign as a County Captain. And I was for all intents and purposes the Grassroots king of the Ted Cruz campaign. My posts were read by tens of thousands, and in one case millions.

Then after Ted suspended I ended up with Delegates Unbound where I helped fight the RNC to get better rules. We won but they haxxored.

Now I am in less than a week going to be the leading author against Donald Trump in the nation. Muwahahahaha.

I expect to get more death threats, Doxxed for real this time instead of threats, a letter from the Trump lawyers guild, and no less than 3 tweets from Donald ranting about me.

I will post here when the book is available on Amazon.

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wb Einstein.

those are some lofty goals, especially dem tweets!  best of luck.

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So..... You're voting Hillary than?

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Oregon allows Write In votes with no issue. I am voting Ted Cruz.

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Einstein wrote:

Oregon allows Write In votes with no issue. I am voting Ted Cruz.

So, your answer is "Yes, I would rather Hillary win."

If you want Hillary over Trump, just vote Hillary.  If your going to write someone in - might as well vote "Flint Fireforge" as he has the same odds as Cruz.

I voted twice for Perot and it didn't do me (or anyone else) any good.  If I and other Perot voters had just voted for the lesser of two evils as opposed to voting for the best person for the job than Clinton's cigar habits would have never become common knowledge.

Good luck with your book though wink

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Yes, GL from me too

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well my book is published, lol

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So... I am confused.

You hate Trump, but are a Republican.
You will not vote for Trump, but you are a Republican.
You will do a write in " throw away vote"


Why are you wasting your time, going to the voting area? Why not stay home that night?
Why vote, for a throw away vote? Please tell me the point of this?

I mean... You could vote for Johnson, but really.. that's just another throw away vote.

Mind you, every throw away vote is a vote for Hillary, so if everyone had your mindset she has already won, but that's what the media wants you to think anyways.

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
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[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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I've always thought the "you're wasting your vote" argument was interesting.  I don't necessarily disagree with it, but at the same time I can respect the concept of voting on principle even if its "wasted".

Consider that mathematically it's not likely that any one of our single votes really "matters".  We could argue that any of us, individually, placing a vote for anybody is a waste of time.  You can stay home on election day and it will not likely change anything other than how you feel.  Motivating, right?

Obviously there is power in numbers, which is why we vote at all.  Just the same, Einstein will likely not be the only one doing this.  Even if these votes tilt the results against the favor of the GOP, whether or not it is wasteful is a matter of larger goals and also principle.  Expressing dissatisfaction with your party is a form of protest, and it's worthwhile.  It's internal "tough love".  Expecting everybody to fall in just so the other guy doesn't take it can be seen as short sighted and perpetuating mediocrity within the party.

If any particular party doesn't win the presidency because of people "wasting" their votes on write-ins or 3rd party candidates, I would say blaming those voters is ignoring the party's actual issues.

I can't say that I would personally choose to vote for a throwaway, but I don't blame those who do.

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Okay, so let's assume he goes to the polling place and writes the name 'Ted Cruz' on the ballot as his vote for President. Do you think he is the only guy in America named Ted Cruz? I highly doubt it. In fact I don't think his real name is Ted or even Theodore. Writing someones name into a ballot is most certainly a waste of time. How many guys named Ron Paul live in the USA? Anyone who writes a name into a ballot is a fool.

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That's an interesting point.  I'm not familiar enough with the process to know what happens with write-ins.  It'd be cool to see if they do anything useful with that data.

Would there be any value in knowing how many people write in for Ted Cruz or variations of his name for this election cycle?  I guess that depends on who you ask.

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12 (edited by The Great Eye 28-Aug-2016 23:44:01)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_ … candidates

Suffice to say, historically if there was a prominent person with a name that also happened to have won an election by write-in, it is safe to assume the prominent person with that name has been awarded the position for which that election was held.  Now... if there was another person named Ted Cruz who expressed an interest in running for President at the same time and whose interest was well known... then you might have a problem.

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13 (edited by The Great Eye 29-Aug-2016 19:19:44)

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Ok child, it is time for me to put the spanking down.

1) I vote not party line but conservative line
Donald Trump has explicitly failed that measure. I judged McCain and Mitt Romney to be D's, I judge Trump to be an F-Minus.

2) I was with Delegates Unbound and Free the Delegates
We tried to save the party from having Trump, we really did. If we had succeeded another candidate would have existed. Are you saying you would vote for that candidate if we had succeeded? How's your conscience on the issue?

3) Not voting for Trump is voting for Hillary?
Let us test this hypothesis. Trump has 100 votes, Hillary has 100 votes. I do not vote for either. Has either score gone up? No. Now if I voted for Hillary her votes go to 101.

4) Voting for Hillary part 2
Imagine a really nasty sandwich you found under the seat of your car. The bread is utterly green, the cheese is brown, and the meat is yellow. Now imagine that under the passenger seat you find a green deflated orange. Green as in the spores launched an attack on your nose when you touched it. You can eat either one. Please feel free to choose one.

5) A vote for Ted Cruz is a throw away
You are correct. I will not get Ted Cruz elected. In fact even if he got a million votes he will not get a single electoral vote at all. In all those regards you are correct. And yeah if they want to play technicalities who is that man named Ted Cruz?

Where you fail, and fail miserably is that while it could be any candidate we want, if the write in is made, it is recorded in many States. Not all, and in some the whole ballot gets thrown out. But in Oregon there will ultimately be a list of the names who got votes. The same with New Hampshire, the same with a number of other States.

In some States they will list how many names were rejected due to sore loser laws, but not list the names. All of this is expected. But the deal is the RNC, Trump, the Republican Party.... they all three... will see the statistics, the names, the tallies.

6) A vote for Trump is a loss anyways
No seriously. There is no way he can win at this time short of Hillary AND Tim Kaine both accidentally getting found sleeping with Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney. Maybe even not that will disgust the Democrats enough to not vote. The problem you have is simple.

a) Trump is behind by 10% in most polls. The Republican party is represented by 90% most often in turn out, but Trump is only getting 84% of the Republicans. Since Republicans only make up about 26% of the population where Democrats made up 29%. These polls will get worse as outlined below. Therefore 7.4% of the missing numbers is from Democrats and Independents. Even if Trump got the same numbers percentage wise as Reagan, from Republicans, he would still lose in a landslide.

b) Trump can only go down. The reason for this is many. This section deals with the 11th Commandment. All Hillary has to do is go on FB, Twitter, and Disqus with fake accounts and troll the conservative side of the party as if they were Trumpers. Use offensive behavior, use offensive methods. She will keep the party divided and cost Trump further votes. His violating the 11th Commandment is his own doom. His supporters also doing so is just doom squared.

c) Trump can only go down part two. An examination of the "Tabs" as they call them in the polls shows a scary thing. Hillary is currently out performing Barack Obama in all demographics except White Males. She has 99% of the Black vote! There is no way Trump, who by coincidence is under performing Dole, McCain, and Mittens on all aspects except in uneducated white males. You cannot make this stuff up!

d) Trump can only down part three. Ever examine the Trump campaign? He has no campaign. He has less staffers now than he did in the Primaries! He has no offices in critical swing COUNTIES which will decide Swing States. Even the so called increases in voter registrations turned out to really be not so big after all

e) Trump can only go down part four. Trump claimed to have raised nearly 100 million in cash over the last quarter. Except when his FEC filing was submitted (in the last hour of the last day allowed mind you) his performance was between a third and half of what he said it was. We can split the hair and say it was nearly 2/5ths what it should have been. Trump has no cash compared to Hillary, the RNC is running at their lowest revenue sources since Bob Dole (and if you adjust for inflation they were rich then compared to now). No one loves Trump, they are not willing to donate to him.

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10) I am preparing the Party for a most extremely painful lesson
You see for the last two decades they have not listened to us. Heck even going almost three decades. They run these failure candidates who cannot possibly win. They fight the true conservative candidates who can win.

Take polling. In the Primaries Trump was within 1% of his polling, statistically averaged, throughout the entire season. Ted Cruz however out performed his polling by an amazing 10%, statistically averaged, throughout the entire season.

Take fundraising. Jeb Bush was mostly funded by old guard Republicans and his Super PAC was funded by Establishment bundlers. Ted Cruz out performed Jeb Bush and his was mostly grassroots money in far smaller sizes on average. Trump on the other hand has claimed he would sell a building for a billion dollars, never did that, and has only put in about 43 million of his own cash. When my patent sells I am putting 100 million into just infrastructure in Oregon. Trump is weak.

11) Trump has crappy proxies for a reason
No one can be allowed to compare with Trump without Trump seeking to destroy them. His ego will not allow a high level proxy to support him. Meanwhile Ted Cruz allowed Roe, Cuccinelli, Beck, Levin, and others to shine as bright as they wanted to as they gave him support. Hillary gives a rat ass if someone is brighter than her, so long as they support her for President. Trump eats his own.

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Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Einstein = RINO

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Einstein is conservative Republican. Look it up.

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16 (edited by President Dubya 29-Aug-2016 02:28:18)

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Republicans... Democrats... not a stitch of difference between them. Did you ever wonder (no, not you Einstein) why every new administration says they will do things differently than the last administration, yet nothing ever changes -- except for the worse. They continue on with the programs they claimed to have been against when running for election and in fact expand upon them. Ted Cruz in a neo-con globalist shill and a worthless piece of human garbage. He is not a 'traditional' conservative, by any definition of the word. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Then again, what the F does "traditional conservative" mean anyways?? These days we call Socialist/Communists "liberals" and Fascists are commonly referred to as "conservatives". Thomas Jefferson was considered a liberal. Would his opinions be considered "liberal" by today's definition of the word? I should think not. The lexicon has been hijacked and we are living in a world of doublespeak.

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The only reason to write in your vote is being a colossal asshole that doesn't care about the outcome of an election. 

I say that because it's just as effective as sitting on your couch at home and not voting, but you make the effort to vote knowing full well that it will have no impact.

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it will have an impact.

Apparently you cannot read

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They will tally the 3rd party, independent, and write in votes in most States in the entirety, some will not tallly write in's. But those numbers will show a Republican Party with a lot of discontent and that independents do not like the course the Republican Party is taking.

Ted Cruz is the opposite of what you say btw, he is the anti-globalist, look at the Supreme Court cases he fought for and won. No NWO person EVER would have agreed to take those cases, he did. If forced on them there is no way they would have fought well. He did.

Ted Cruz is a true conservative hero.

Trump is a potential Anti-Christ type person.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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19 (edited by The Great Eye 29-Aug-2016 19:20:38)

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Flint, consider this your final warning.

I edited your prior advertising post a day before this post, so you very clearly had prior notice.  And here we are again.


Not only is the above post a violation of IC rules against advertising.... it's also utterly non-conductive to debate.  You are putting readers in a position where to continue the conversation and fully engage you, or even to follow it, the reader has to buy your book... THEN respond to it here... which means either he posts your book in forums (arguably plagiarism depending on the size of the post) or paraphrase your book, at which point:
1: He's the one doing the work you should be doing
2: We're opening ourselves up to strawman arguments
3: Third parties who are reading without participating STILL have no idea what the hell is going on.

In short... requiring people go offline and buy an external product to even know the warrant to the argument you're articulating is clearly advertising.  It's against the rules, and this latest infraction is a day after the first time it happened.  You have been warned, Flint.

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Zarf: You say that like you think Flint has the capacity to understand your arguments tongue


Flint: Cruz is not the hero the republicians were looking for, he was Trump v0.5 (i.e. the lesser Trump). His views would divide the US more than Trump and be potentially more damaging. I am sure your book makes wonderful reading and I wish I could know where to go to get it just so I can have a good laugh.

In any case, I do find myself agreeing with one point, a write in vote (or any other so called "throw-away" vote) is not a waste and can be an effective protest if lots of people also put in a protest vote; which can be anything from so called "joke candidates" to write in's to intentionally ruined voting papers (assuming that all are reported in someway). If enough numbers do it then it shows that there was discontent with the choices and the main parties can start to re-position themselves before a viable third option comes along. This is perhaps more valid in voting systems that are more free and democratic than the states where so called minor parties can have a greater influence anyway.

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Nobody can help dividing the US.  As Ice Cube said , "Let it rang, let it bang, errybody in the hood saying funk errythang"

I also am working on a book set in an alternate universe where Jim Crow continues to the present day.  Something tells me to use a nom de plume.

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Flint for president !

What do I have to work with?

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Just president? Make it emperor. Planetary emperor !

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Einstein wrote:

4) Voting for Hillary part 2
Imagine a really nasty sandwich you found under the seat of your car. The bread is utterly green, the cheese is brown, and the meat is yellow. Now imagine that under the passenger seat you find a green deflated orange. Green as in the spores launched an attack on your nose when you touched it. You can eat either one. Please feel free to choose one.

I'm not saying a throw-away vote is a waste. I am undecided on the topic.
However this analogy is as wrong as Amok in pink tights.

A better comparison is that you and your two passengers are voting on which sandwich you eat. And by throwing away your vote, you only give more power to your passengers, who may not have the same ideas on what is edible as you.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Wow.... Flint... what an odd little mind you have.

"1) I vote not party line but conservative line"

The race is Trump V. Clinton.  If conservative values are important to you - pick the one whom you believe is most conservative and vote for them.

"2) I was with Delegates Unbound and Free the Delegates
We tried to save the party from having Trump, we really did. If we had succeeded another candidate would have existed. Are you saying you would vote for that candidate if we had succeeded? How's your conscience on the issue?"

If thought they would be a better president than Hillary - Yes.  If not, I would vote Hillary.

"4) Voting for Hillary part 2
Imagine a really nasty sandwich you found under the seat of your car. The bread is utterly green, the cheese is brown, and the meat is yellow. Now imagine that under the passenger seat you find a green deflated orange. Green as in the spores launched an attack on your nose when you touched it. You can eat either one. Please feel free to choose one."

Wow, that is dumb.... You are going to be forced to eat one or the other and you are being given the opportunity to pick which one you believe will make you less ill.  You have decided to not vote on way or the other but instead have decided you are voting for a candy bar, which is not an option.

"6) A vote for Trump is a loss anyways
b) Trump can only go down.
c) Trump can only go down part two.
d) Trump can only down part three. "

Odd, in the last three weeks he has gone from being down 8 points to being 2 point up per CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics … tion-2016/

Than again this "expert political analysis" is coming form the guy who predicted Obama would lose both elections and that Obama care would not pass and that even after it past that it would be over turned. 

You even predicted Hillary would lose this election and listed the reasons why https://imperialconflict.com/forum/view … ?id=189773

But of course these reasons mean nothing now... because ... you say so?

Sigh.... Your posts are so under thought and contradictory I have to wonder whether you're trolling or if you're on medication hmm