Topic: A Conservative Pledge to Libertarians

Out of respect to your views, when we disagree, I swear I will not be the one to call the police for help.


In the America of the Founders, the authorities offered bounty.  They didn't offer rewards for information leading to the arrest of a crook by police.  They offered citizens cash if those private citizens could catch, restrain, and haul the crook to the courthouse.  And they cared more about the Truth than manmade rules, meaning they'd rather the Court get the facts straight than ignore evidence got by improper methods like warrantless search.  So the crook got a trial, and they didn't guarantee him a free lawyer, as soon as a judge could get to town.  They heard all the evidence the police had.  And if he was found guilty of anything worse than petty theft, he could be hanged.  And they'd usually do all that within a month of him being dropped off by the bounty hunters.  And there wasn't any appeals court.   Captured by bounty hunters, denied a lawyer, tried, judged, and hanged within a month.

That's what the Constitution was meant to set up.

Anything less is crap invented by judges.

In 1792, Congress said you had to pay tax on every bottle of whiskey.  And if you didn't pay tax you couldn't have the whiskey.  This was at a time when the average American male had a third of a bottle of whiskey a day.  Even George Washington brewed whiskey at Mount Vernon, more out of a sense of duty to be as useful as possible than a serious moneymaker.  But some guys in New England decided that they weren't gonna pay the tax.  Also they decided that they weren't gonna be told otherwise,  and if some people refused to do the right thing and look the other way, they were going to kill them, even if they were officers of the federal government.

So George Washington, President of the United States, ordered the Army out after them.  And he asked for state militia to put them down too.  He asked for private citizens to get their personal weapons and go shoot Americans on American soil under orders from the Federal government, for violating laws against controlled substances.

And he got his volunteers.

That's what the Constitution stands for: Washington DC telling you this or that is banned, and you can't have it, and if you get rowdy about it, they'll kill you.

It's a free country.  If you think the government has to ignore laws regarding controlled substances, has to let local rules dominate, has to avoid using force to impose obedience, has to restrain itself from using force on people who won't accept arrest, you can do that just like you can be a communist.   But you're going against American history, tradition, and the laws dating back from the Founding.  We owe no allegiance to your proposed changes, and you have no right to berate anybody as if they "lost touch" with something agreed to.  It was never done your way.

Libertarianism is unAmerican.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: A Conservative Pledge to Libertarians

Consider this thread to be a fictional episode performed for your entertainment.

Or perhaps it is a warning.

Or possibly it is a greeting, from the Twilight Zone.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: A Conservative Pledge to Libertarians

Good to see that those dumbnuts, world foreign americans are still on the politics forum, its always a great read to see what BS they come up this time smile (yes, you Yell, and Einstein).

I survived the Test? of 12-4-03, anyone remember that?