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We need multiculturalism and diversity. We need to strive for understanding in all that we do. Respect is not a four letter word. Caring is sharing. Can't we give peace a chance? We must Co-Exist! Kindness is a virtue.


Sounds like the typical Liberal bumper sticker huh?

Except what they say is not always how they act.



Teabaggers deserve no place in society. Those Republicans should have a labotomy. I hope Israel dies! If I were in a Republican State and it were the election I would vote, and vote often. Those racist pigs. Trailer trash. Crackers need to die. Those sexist dogs.


Yes their actions are more loud than their purported ideals.


Today as I was reading the news I came across a story of a Law College that denied a lawyer because they hate her political identification. Yes everyone here can guess instantly what her views are.. Yes she is a Republican and volunteers for Conservative causes.

Liberals of the Bunbunboi type are already spitting at her for being such of course.


So she is suing them, and they are claiming freedom of association.

But the article had some interesting comments. I think this could cripple liberals if they deny us, for we could then deny them.

The commentary had a peice that went like this:

Thank you for inquiring with us for employment. Yes we did get your request on information pertaining to same sex partner benefits. However we have bad news. You see we found you had friended Vote Liberal on Facebook. As you know rights of freedom of association means we can avoid those of opposing politi@al viewpoints in hiring. So we decided not to hire you.


Somewhere in the world a liberals mind just blew up. There is brain matter and blood all over his room.



The biggest bigots are not Republicans or Conservatives. They are Liberals.

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2 (edited by Justinian I 07-Apr-2012 14:02:59)

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Multiculturalism is a naive policy. While some cultures are advantageous, others simply have nothing to bring to the table. To shelter them from cultural selection is retarded. In fact, no culture should be sheltered. Let the most fit cultural ideas survive.

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Any link to this "story" or did you make it up?

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Iowa Republicans are taking aim at the state's top law school for denying a faculty position to a conservative law professor, who an assistant dean once said embraces politics the rest of the faculty "despises."   
Teresa Wagner, who works as an associate director of writing at the University of Iowa College of Law, is suing former dean Carolyn Jones for employment discrimination, claiming she was not hired for a professor position because Jones and other law faculty disapproved of her conservative views and activism.
To hold a law faculty position at the publicly funded university is viewed as a "sacred cow," Wagner said in an interview, and "Republicans need not apply."
The case, which goes to trial this October, has become a chief concern for Republicans in Johnson County, who on Monday passed a resolution calling on the Iowa House of Representatives' oversight committee to investigate hiring practices involved in Wagner's case and others like it.
"We think the hiring policies need to be such where there are certainly non-discriminatory practices which relate to political philosophy, as well as to race and gender and other issues," said Bob Anderson, chairman of the Johnson County Republican Party. He claims students are deprived of "diversity of political thought" when conservative thinkers, like Wagner, are rejected based on their politics.
"We have a very active, conservative Republican community within the University of Iowa, which has not been met with an appropriate sense of respect for their ideas," he told FoxNews.com. "We see generally the climate as unfavorable." 
Wagner, who graduated with honors from the law school in 1993, has taught at the George Mason University School of Law. She has also worked for the National Right to Life Committee, which opposes abortion, and the conservative Family Research Council.
In 2006, Wagner applied for a full-time instructor position with the law school and was denied. She was also rejected for an adjunct or full-time position in four subsequent attempts, according to her attorney, Stephen T. Fieweger.
"For the first time in years, there are more registered Republicans in the state of Iowa than there are Democrats, which is obviously not reflected at the University of Iowa," Fieweger told FoxNews.com.
Fieweger said Wagner's candidacy was dismissed because of her conservative views, and he cited a 2007 email from Associate Dean Jonathan C. Carlson to Jones in which Carlson wrote: "Frankly, one thing that worries me is that some people may be opposed to Teresa serving in any role, in part at least because they so despise her politics (and especially her activism about it)."
Associate Dean Eric Andersen was not immediately available for comment when contacted Thursday. Tom Moore, a spokesman for the university, told the Iowa City Press Citizen last week that the school is "committed to equal opportunity, diversity and to following fair hiring practices."
Wagner's case was initially dismissed in a lower court that ruled the dean could hire whomever she wishes. But the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, in St. Louis, reinstated it in December. A trial is set for Oct. 15.
Fieweger said the law school and academic institutions in general have been so "entrenched" in discriminating against conservative-minded faculty over the years that "they don't recognize they're doing it."
At the time Wagner filed her complaint, Fieweger said, the number of registered Republicans on the law faculty stood at one.
Fieweger said the school argues Wagner was rejected because she "stunningly flunked the interview" in refusing to teach analysis -- a claim he said "just doesn't make sense and the jury is going to see that."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/05/iowa-republicans-blast-law-school-over-refusal-to-hire-conservative-professor/#ixzz1rNU5X1PB

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Sounds like something Einstein would do to a liberal trying to get the same job if he was the dean of a law school.

What can i say i'm just that good.

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No one would object to denying academic employment to a politically active holocaust denier, and it's not unusual for Europeans to imprison them. David Irving is a recent example. Likewise, this woman's socially conservative views are no less extremist than holocaust deniers. I generally don't agree with employment discrimination, but I have no sympathy for that woman's defense. I'm also partial to European laws that imprisons extremists like her, stopping them from preaching hate.

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I advocate arresting Justinian and torturing him.

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9 (edited by Justinian I 08-Apr-2012 02:51:20)

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In that case, I prefer going down in a hail of gunfire fighting the very tyrants who have expanded police power by reinterpreting the 4th/5th amendments, support extraordinary rendition, want to control sexuality and expand extra-judicial executive power, and now want to legalize torture.

Give me liberty or give me death!

Of course, bloodshed can be avoided if these police-state extremists are just silenced, and confined if necessary.

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I advocate arresting Justinian and torturing him too.

And then he goes on to attack tyranny, after supporting tyrants' rights to imprison people for ideas and speech?

That is not logical.

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Kemp,

Sometimes, freedom is a zero-sum game. You have to take it away from a minority so that the majority can keep it.

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Even accepting that as true, policing thought/speech does not qualify as such a scenario.

In the case of hate, outlawing it doesn't eliminate it; it just makes it harder to identify and give appropriate attention to. When "questionable" speech is banned, the debate isn't held publicly, and the case of enlightened, non hateful people is not heard in response to the idiots.

Nevermind the absolutely ridiculous slippery slope this leads to, with powerful government forces determining what's "questionable" and cannot be thought/spoken.

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13 (edited by Justinian I 08-Apr-2012 04:20:07)

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V.Kemp,

Points conceded. It leads to a slippery slope that can be abused for political expediency, and will push the debate underground.

But... when fanatics become competitive in the democratic system, what other choice is there for rational men but to set aside the law and/or respond with violence?

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If you're asking how to combat the problems which arise when stupid people become the majority, all I have to say is God help us.

I live in America. Fanatics are the majority. Half of them want to be your communist overlords or want communist overlord babysitters running their lives. The other half want to police your bedroom. They all want to do whatever their corporate masters tell them to do and rain hell on half of the rest of the globe, wasting our money to do so. They all love printing money to enrich their friends, stealing the value of this new money from all of our wealth. They all love bribes. They've loved bribes for so long that bribery is legal in this country: You pay your lawyers, your lawyers pay their lawyers, their lawyers pay them, and everybody is protected by layer upon layer of attorney-client privilege.

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Actually, V.Kemp highlights one interesting problem that I was going to note: What is a fanatic?

Justinian, your definition of "fanatic" is very distinct from V.Kemp's definition, which is different from my definition, which is different from xeno's definition.

Often, as individual, we can group the categories of "opponent" and "fanatic" to a point where, if following a Justinian interpretation of the world, we would be no better than the worst of dictators because "fanatic" simply translates into "anyone who disagrees with us."



So before you all go on, here's a question: Define people who you do not consider to be "fanatics," yet with whom you have a significant amount of disagreements.  Then if you're considering Justinian's "lock em up" stance... what percentage of the population have you just thrown into prisons or shot?

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Everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. And a fanatic. Because it's that obvious that I'm right. Duh.

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I disagree with that statement.  Wait, I mean... yikes

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No I have an idea to saddly Justinian with some children. Problem solved and no need to change laws.

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V.Kemp,

LOL! A humorous description of our society smile. But I am not of the opinion that I need to restrain myself from using whatever power I have at my disposal to protect freedom from a stupid majority. I won't stand by as they abuse their freedom to take mine away. I consider it fitting to call it what it is, a war. And I don't believe in a gentleman's war where I tie my hands behind my back. No, I fight to win.

Zarf,

It's not that they disagree with me or anyone else. Parties in typical disagreements share many values, and the conflicting issues are about priorities and facts. For example, many of us agree that a government should do what minimizes poverty. However, some will argue that increased welfare spending will accomplish that best, while others argue that the best solution is to lower welfare spending and the minimum wage.

With fanatics, our definition isn't what's important. From experience, most fanatics pose no threat and can be ignored. However, other fanatics are all together different. When anyone desires to deprive you of your freedoms or even you life, merely because it matches his/her view of how the world ought to be, then there is nothing to debate about. Instead, they have declared war on you. And what other choice is there but to settle the dispute with blood and steel?

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But government is, by definition, a restriction of individual freedoms.  Any act, whether it be a new tax, a new regulation, law, etc., is a form of removal of freedoms.  This would justify just about any person being considered a "fanatic" except the outright anarchist.

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Anarchists are communists... so no. They simply phrase their arguments as if "the people" will naturally do what they, in fact, want a communist government to do. Because they want a government to do things in the name of "the people," they pretend it's not an all-powerful government at all and thus call themselves anarchists.  It's equivocation over semantics: They're communists.

Anyone who just got the urge to tell me I'm wrong should first go educate themselves. It's not really up for discussion. Nobody is so dumb as to think that a state of anarchy could ever persist for more than moments. Maybe a few dumb kids showing up don't think so, but that doesn't change the fact that 99% of "anarchists" advocating anything are advocating 100% communist causes.

Social contract theory is epic. Libertarians should rule the world. And if you disagree, you're a fanatic. tongue

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Point proven.  Anyone can be considered a fanatic, so the term is arbitrary.  tongue

*goes away now*

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And over to The_Yell for sports!

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