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Has anyone seen the documentary "Thrive"?  Thoughts?

I would highly recommend Einstein and Kemp to watch it, if only to broaden their understandings of the different perspectives out there.

http://www.thrivemovement.com/

I would recommend watching or reading Carl Sagan's "Contact" first so as to provide a context for Thrive.

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I watched the trailer and I lol'ed. If such an energy source exists, why don't the "big" guys develop it to make more money?

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Pretty colors.

"That's not just a theoretical statement, it's literally true." Which is, of course, a literally false statement. It just insulted your intelligence. I guess the people that deserve the insult won't be aware to be offended.

It goes on to mention some obvious truths about corporate government corruption/tyranny, as if that can make up for the fact that they just bombarded us with false claims about alien technology. If what they claimed was "literally true" was true, they'd demonstrate it and I wouldn't be making fun of them on teh interwebs. What they said was not theoretical is 100% theoretical. I don't have anything to gain from people speaking English who have a 6th grade vocabulary, misuse words, and hire editors so horrible they let this embarrassing, insulting garbage go to broadcast.

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Hahaha WHAT THE [candy mountain] did I just watch.

Alhough I do think they have a point somewhere between all of the bogus: companies don't like to develop technologies that would put themselves out of business. It's why symptomatic treatment in medicine is such big business, while medicaments that actually cure a disease and have the potency of completely whiping it out are less interesting as they are far less lucrative.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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> xeno syndicated wrote:

> Has anyone seen the documentary "Thrive"?  Thoughts?



The word "documentary" should be used very loosely here...

and pretty much V.Kemp sums up the rest of it.

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I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

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"The word "documentary" should be used very loosely here..."

They say all of their source material is independently verified and they do provide sources on their website.  At this point, as far as I am concerned, it is all an interesting theory, as I haven't had the time to verify any of their sources.  I would like to corroborate or dispute their conclusions with sourced material in this thread if anyone else would like to.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if governments and corporations kept both the evidence of contact and the free energy technology under wraps.  I think this premise is sound. 

Regarding another of their premises, however, I am not convinced that the upper-most echelons of power are malevolent, but, rather, I tend to think they are misguided and inept.  For instance, they could very well not have released the free energy technology due to what they see would be unavoidable havoc wrought on humanity by what would surely be a transformation of our civilization.  I would tend to think that an advanced, space-faring civilization would feel obliged to share the tech with us and work with us to transform our society as quickly as possible considering how we are wiping out so many species of lifeforms on our planet who would otherwise evolve into sentient lifeforms themselves.  It would be seen as a horrendous crime against life by advanced civilizations not to help us.

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This is not a theory (which would imply that it is widely accepted throughout the scientific community)... It's an hypothesis.

Your last paragraph, xeno... I'm not even going to comment on that. /facepalm

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Crop circles created by aliens, Cold Fusion and David Icke.

I'm thinking It has to be a parody, they surely cant be serious.

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> RisingDown wrote:

> This is not a theory (which would imply that it is widely accepted throughout the scientific community)... It's an hypothesis.

Okay, it's a hypothesis.

Your last paragraph, xeno... I'm not even going to comment on that. /facepalm

What part?  This? "It would be seen as a horrendous crime against life by advanced civilizations not to help us."
It's logical.  Any space-faring civilization that has made contact with other sentient lifeforms would recognize the inherent value of life and the moral obligation to ensure that life has the opportunity to evolve to sentience.

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"Crop circles created by aliens, Cold Fusion and David Icke.

I'm thinking It has to be a parody, they surely cant be serious."

Study Carl Sagan, Albert Einstein, Hawkins, other prominent astrophysicists, look at the data from telescopes, think for yourself, do the math yourself.  How many billions of billions of stars are out there?  There are 250 billion (2.5 x 10

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If life is as rare and precious in the universe, and sentient life is even rarer and more precious, why is it that by our actions we show so much contempt for life on this planet as well as such contempt for ourselves?

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Its almost certain that there is life out there somewhere in the universe.

Its the idea that intelligent life has travelled several light years for the purpose of drawing crop circles in Texas that I'm having diffculty with.

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"They say all of their source material is independently verified and they do provide sources on their website."

They also say that it's literally true that aliens have given us the knowledge for infinite energy. Seeing as this claim is absolutely bullshit and the authors insult us all, they're liars and their word has no value.

"That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if governments and corporations kept both the evidence of contact and the free energy technology under wraps.  I think this premise is sound."

Except that you have absolutely 0 evidence that "free energy technology" exists. So you're working with absolutely nothing. Your opinion on what moral values aliens would/should have is consequently just pointless conjecture.

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"Its the idea that intelligent life has travelled several light years for the purpose of drawing crop circles in Texas that I'm having diffculty with."

Maybe they didn't travel here.  Perhaps the crop circles were produced by some sort of telecommunication signal.  The crop circles could be seen as attempts at communication.

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Except then you would have to show that the aliens could interact with items which, according to Einsteinian physics, would not be in the same location that you perceive them to be (i.e., if I am 40,000 light-years away from you, even if I see you, I am seeing light which was emitted 40,000 years ago).  So if I wanted to put a crop circle in a farm, without actually being in the vicinity of the crop circle, I would need a way to know exactly where a farm would be, knowing full well that what I could see of the planet was a lie, and in fact was 40,000 years old.  I would literally be viewing an earth in the middle of the Ice Age, and trying to guess where agriculture is likely to start up.  tongue

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"So if I wanted to put a crop circle in a farm, without actually being in the vicinity of the crop circle, I would need a way to know exactly where a farm would be, knowing full well that what I could see of the planet was a lie, and in fact was 40,000 years old."

True enough, unless they have a way to observe the planet in real time.  Perhaps a wormhole?  Doesn't matter, though.  As the fill suggests, aliens have been watching and / or facilitating our development for quite a while.   

If life is as rare precious and rare as we think it is and "intelligent" life as precious and rare as we think we are, it seems logical for an advanced civilization to take an interest in ensuring that life "thrives".  The question might be, if indeed we are being watched and guided by aliens of an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization, why they haven't intervened more?

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> The question might be, if indeed we are being watched and guided by aliens of an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization, why they haven't intervened more?

Because the government of every single contacted nation decided to keep intelligent greys a secret. These government officials then joined hands with a selected group of elites of society who then used alien technology to become mega rich at the expensive of the rest of us. If only intellectual property isn't protected, the rest of us peasants can have a chance at benefiting monetarily from alien technology. If only we had alien technology, then we can mass produce glass syringes ultra cheap. If only we had alien technology, we'd have unlimited energy. Only then can we do justice to the ancient greys who progressed Ancient Greek society to the epitome of civilization. Darn our modern governments! Darn out modern elites! Down with government! Down with elites! Greys in their metallic ships must be cringing in their wormholes at this injustice!

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"Because the government of every single contacted nation decided to keep intelligent greys a secret. These government officials then joined hands with a selected group of elites of society who then used alien technology to become mega rich at the expensive of the rest of us. If only intellectual property isn't protected, the rest of us peasants can have a chance at benefiting monetarily from alien technology. If only we had alien technology, then we can mass produce glass syringes ultra cheap. If only we had alien technology, we'd have unlimited energy. Only then can we do justice to the ancient greys who progressed Ancient Greek society to the epitome of civilization. Darn our modern governments! Darn out modern elites! Down with government! Down with elites! Greys in their metallic ships must be cringing in their wormholes at this injustice!"

It is an interesting hypothesis, isn't it?  A great premise for a sci-fi movie.  I am not claiming it is true, but I think it is worth conducting research into it.

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I store alien technology in my butt. It's used to produce Cheetos. And plastic syringes. And damn does it produce a lot of energy. Do you like broccoli? I like broccoli. brb my farm is burning. I'll continue this later.

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