Topic: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

I heard someone try hard to blame Bush for our economic issues recently. When does Obama get the blame if this continues?


Is that answer never?


When does the man who promised, 'if you pass this stimulus, unemployment will never pass 8%' get to take blame in your eyes.


The same man, who I think  in 2 years, spent more than Bush did in 8 years?


When does he get the blame?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

Your an idiot.

He's spent more than Bush already? Did you forgot how math works or something? A failed war in Iraq and Afganishtan. How much did that cost? And thats just the bullshit wars that we had no business conducting in the first place.

Looks like all those tax cuts for the rich that Bush got through worked wonders eh? Pffft. That was awesome. Oh my bad...i apologize. We cant call them 'rich people' anymore, we're supposed to call them 'job creators' now...well...at least according to the GOP. (rolls eyes)

When is the GOP gonna pull their heads out of their asses and realize that you NEED to raise taxes on the 'job creators' to bring money back into the government. Lets not address our insanely out of controll military budget but cut funding to Planned Parenthood instead. Idiots. Thats like .0000001% of our budget issues.

Once again i have the misfortune of having to listen (or in this case read) to another Fox News drone. You're living in a fog of false reality created by Fox News. Your all a bunch of bible banging redneck retards.

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

"He's spent more than Bush already? Did you forgot how math works or something?"

His compression algorithm would give you a good idea yikes

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

*challenges AA and Einstein to post sources on the debt*

I'm going through and looking through them right now as well.  tongue

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5 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 29-Jul-2011 00:38:06)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

> Wild Flower Soul wrote:

> His compression algorithm would give you a good idea yikes


Considering Flint has, as far as I remember, conceded the compression algorithm issue years ago...  Stop your damn trolling!

EDIT: If Flint hasn't... then I'll apologize in advance... I seem to remember, though, him making a big explanation post somewhere.  tongue

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6 (edited by The Yell 29-Jul-2011 00:39:13)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

Not one penny to Planned Parenthood.  Why should I pay people to bang each other? Why?  It went from being none of my business to me owing you birth control??

I propose a more certain birth control, when you get horny I will kick you in the groin til you forget about being horny.  I will pay for that.

Did Obama think he had Scrooge McDucks money vault but after he got inaugurated the Bushes and Clinton and Carter met him at midnight and drove him to the secret bunker and explained that we were flatass broke?  He didn't mind spending all that money and he coulda stopped spending it the same way he put gays in the military and got his Obamacare passed.

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

I dont have a source. Theres no way in hell that Obama has spent more in 2.5 years than Bush did in 8. Not with 2 wars, 3 if you count the war on terror. I dont need to be an economic expert to figure that out.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

i dont mean for anyone to take this the wrong way but what about bringing back slavery?

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

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9 (edited by The Yell 29-Jul-2011 00:44:44)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

the graph I've been shown on that topic included Obama's projected "cuts" through 2017. So....

All the Bush spending could have been stopped by Obama if he wanted to; so saying "well that part of the budget I signed belongs to Bush.  And that there belongs to FDR.  And THAT is Lyndon Johnson's." is lame

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

You guys do realize that if we raised taxes on the 'job creators' (giggles) it would help substantially. BUT NO!! The GOP thinks raising taxes on the 'job creators (giggles) is akin to the apocalypse. Why should they care? Whats another few % of their millions of dollars they already make? OH NO! they cant afford yacht #2 now. BOO F'N HOO!!

If the GOP claims to be all about God and Christianity, then when are they gonna stop labeling tax increases on the 'job creators'  (giggles)  to help the poor as 'socialism'? Is that what God really wants? You really think He is up in heaven approving of the greed and misery propagated by the GOP?


Good lord. The ignorance from Einstien is astounding. All i see and hear from him is direct quotes from Fox and Friends, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. GET YOUR OWN OPINION YOU MINDLESS DRONE!! Read other news articles. Watch something thats actually 'fair and balanced'.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!!

11 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 29-Jul-2011 04:02:15)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

You know...

I always find it interesting when one person claims another is a drone of a group of other people that agree with them... when the person making said argument is stating an opinion with its own set of people which agree with him (MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, etc).  Kind of hurts the argument that someone else in a two-sided issue is a "mindless drone" when the alternative to being part of one massive ideology... is to join an opposite massive ideology.  big_smile



Oh, right... and bad play to not go into sources.  I'm trying to find good sources on this either way, but I know what I'll find will be charged as politically biased one way or another... so I'm trying to find government websites.  tongue

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

and that's why Detroit, San Francisco, Chicago and New Orleans are the engines of the new world economy, because they stopped cuddling the job creators long ago...oh wait they're all losing jobs to Skunkass ND, which WANTS somebody to come earn a million dollars there

tough shit, economic recovery will make some people rich.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

In Detroit you can buy a house and 1/2 an acre of land for under $1000 in cash. No plumbing or wiring, the metal thieves tore it out... but you can easily find a posh 5 bedroom, 2 bath house for under $2000 if you desire, again no plumbing or wiring, but not that expensive (in normal regions) to fix that.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/


Thats the first I could come up with, in a hurry, shoulda left 5 minutes ago.


Old, very old... shows however a whopping increase just in the first few months, minus stimulus (Which Obama flew in from campaigning saying it was his most important duty at that time)


I am sure someone can validate my statement faster *cough*Yell*cough*

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/194135/obamas-budget-and-1-trillion-mistake/chris-edwards




driving now.... at least thats 2010, pre-health care.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

Silly Republicans don't understand that supply responds to demand. Instead, they have it reversed and that's how they justify their fantasies like trickle down economics.

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

wow... Primo defends capitalism, and Justinian assails it... Is this some weird reverso day?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

17 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 29-Jul-2011 07:57:29)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

The forum's changed since you've been gone.  tongue

Before you know it, Decimus is going to be campaigning for civil rights, and I'm going to actually take a stand on an issue!  tongue

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

haha, flint.

i have always been a conservative liberal according to dutch standards. US republican standards take it a couple of steps too far in my opinion, but that doesnt mean the basics are wrong.

I don't believe in a flat tax, i also dont believe in taxing the rich till they're poor.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

19 (edited by Justinian I 29-Jul-2011 08:19:14)

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

I'm not advocating communism. I'm advocating a mixed economy with a progressive tax rate. In some sectors of the economy, it's more efficient for the government to be involved. In markets with high economies of scale and high entrance costs, a few firms will dominate it. In which case it makes sense for the government to set price controls, forcing the oligopoly or monopoly that develops to improve their efficiency and invest in R&D rather than merely raise prices. An example would be power companies.

Finally, supply-side economics is bogus because suppliers won't expand unless consumers will buy their product. If there is high unemployment and consumers have low disposable income, then excess profits of companies will not be used to hire more people. Instead, there will be hording and overseas investment. That is exactly what we have now. This is why a progressive tax rate is essential. That way consumers have more disposal income, and suppliers respond by increasing production and hiring more employees.

Having said that, the Democrats can buzz off for always labeling the upper middle class rich.

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

Yeah... I'm with Flint on the Twilight Zone thing.  I don't even know what the hell's going on anymore.

*throws in the towel*

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Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

What Obama should do:
1 - Raise taxes (by $2tn a year)
2 - Cut spending (by $1tn a year)
3 - One-off supertax on large corporate profits (could easily raise $1tn)
4 - Start paying off the national debt

If only USA was run like China... instead bipartisan politico-self-interest and self-aggrandising gets in the way and punishes the 300,000,000 middle-class and poor Americans. Wonder why 30,000,000 illegals desire a life of waiting in Taco Bell, watching Oprah, and poor dental plans?

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

lets not go there, china is run very poorly

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

Yes many aspects are.

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

...Except for the debt deficit, and although not the brightest example, I think mace has a point there.

Re: When is it Obama's economy for Democrats and Liberals?

In answer to flint's original question: Democrats can claim this is 'bush's economy" for the same number of years republicians blamed Clinton for issues in the Bush years (which btw was right up till when Obama came to power)

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