yeah by all means help them, but honestly there's been USAID logo's stamped on everything throughout the years and then dropped in crappy places with horrible problems and it didn't really do much, people seem to consider it's normal for the US to do this and the only emotion involved is getting pissed that it's not enough/too late and whatnot

It was only 50-60 years ago that a black man could be shot by the police for stealing a can of soda in America, dont be so quick to dole out judgements.

> Khaz Modan wrote:

> It was only 50-60 years ago that a black man could be shot by the police for stealing a can of soda in America, dont be so quick to dole out judgements.

yeah and you had your deadly floods too.
Luckily americans still learn from mistakes and are in time to change the course of things.

Wow, isn't it amazing that if you give people a chance to talk sometimes they can show themselves to be much more narrow-minded and dim witted than you could ever hope to reveal with clever words or arguments of your own?

SD I am not racist, racism is a very variable concept, and often manipulated for ones or others to their favour. I am just using common sense, the pakistani population is not my race, that's ok, but it is secondary in this argument, you can still find uncivilized people of your own race in 1st world states, but the difference is they are a few and they're called criminals, arrested and jailed, while the angry and ignorant mob you want to aid are free after doing things like the one I posted above.

Obviously Ariana you didn't watch the video, it wasn't a pack of extremists, it was a horde of people treating 2 human lifes like if they mean nothing at all, and there were kids and women included, looking how 2 men are tortured to death. Those kids watching the impunement of such actions are the future of the country, and they learn only violence for free, a man's life has no value so they wont have any doubt when told to kill you or your family, so in summary, are we aiding future terrorists or are we fighting against them? 

And waht do we gain with aiding these people after a natural disaster? I will tell you, we only gain a temporal cure for our consciences, so we can think for a while we are doing the right thing, until the next disaster.
They arent capable to discern their situation is a direct consequence of their politics/religious actions and in their sick minds this natural disaster is a punishment sent directly from their god because they were turning pleasant with occidentals/americans.

And yes, world history showed how Spain was cruel with natives and consequently Spain lost most of their colonies after having conquered half the known world. But right now Spain is a civilized country and we meet the human rights.

Underdeveloped countries like you say are undeveloped because of their medieval religions they follow strictly, the way science and technology cannot advance (except in military research, funny thing), not a single leader there will take care of social welfare while religion is above the human rights.

So in summary, we cannot aid people whose only purpose in life is to obey their sick religion to have a place in heaven, and obeying that religion means to keep their livings as they were 5 centuries ago.

Luckily Catalonia parlament has forbidden bull fights (like you call it) and I must say they're one step ahead of the rest of Spain. I belong to ecologist movements against the 'national party' like toreadors and supporters call it. To claim a 'national party' to be a blood fest where an animal is tortured to death is a real shame for Spain, and only old and ignorant rednecks from the southern regions want to keep that shameful tradition. The way is long and hard to hopefully manage one day to see this sad spectacles forbidden in all our territory, but a first battle is won and we're on the right way to eliminate it.

About that video I commented it at my facebook some days ago, and my exact words were like "It is a real pity nobody died there, you see like the bull had the chance to kill people but he showed compassion, just to teach them he has a soul, bigger than theirs"

I clap my hands anytime the bull catch the torero and shout hooray! when the torero is killed, and I am blamed for it. I could care less, those who blame me are my enemies, I would fight them at the 'arena', I fight with spades and swords and they naked and previously stunned (like the bulls).
Deal?

Render, I didn't say you were racist. The lady doth protest too much!

wtf you told me it was pixie dust X(

Where the [heck] are they getting all that acid? In the drug store?

> Render wrote:

> humanitarian reasons you say??

did any of you watch a recent video of two young men being kicked to death by a violent mob and then hung upside down in the street ??? well their sin was to rob at a market, they werent judged, someone pointed at them with a single acusation and they were tortured that terrible way, and the saddest thing is, they were innocent, they were just going to play cricket and found a horrible death.

Now if you ask me, this uncivilized mob is the one whos gonna receive your humanitarian aid, [moo], they deserve all the floods in the universe. You cannot claim for humanitarian reasons when there ain't humans behind, only BEASTS.

X(

I watched a recent video of a mob trampling some poor Wal-mart employee to death in the U.S. because they wanted to be the first to get their hands on a "good deal".

Mobs are mobs. Don't expect rational behaviour from them.

Anyway, lynching is pretty common behaviour in countries without developed judicial systems (e.g. http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Clothing-thieves-killed-by-mob-20100804 , http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/03/26/cambodia-motorcycle-theft-deaths.html). It used to be the norm in the early common law system too.

Hell, it's only been around 50 years since the U.S stopped lynching people for presumed crimes.