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> CJIBclient wrote:

> > Render wrote:


15 decided to hit us..... we left them alone and we had no plan at all hitting them..... but after they decided to attack our fam we punished them.....

yes WL but the exact word is "you RAPED them" wink



I know.... but that's called punishment..... We gave them a chance and they decided to try and war us..... if we hit back then and they get "raped" or I rather call it "punished to the bottom ranks" we just did what we had to... else it would have been a very long and boring pingpong bout a few systems and a very long and boring discussion here in uni about how bad we are fighting a smaller fam and how we are not able to win it with all our big savings blablabla.........


your point ---> "we just did what we had to... " (your own words) ---> raping a fam as punishment because they 'attacked' you, with rocks maybe?? cause I dont think they had much to attack with when already losing a war against my fam

my point---> "I just did what I had to..." ---> clearing your spots in my core before you rape my family too.

clear? wink

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"Why did 09 06 not decided to swap planets? Instead they demanded the planets even though they knew 08 got those planets thru wars."

omfg Skyline, I offered Render 100% swap lol.

Render, you're both a NAP breaker and dishonorable. You can't disprove that.


your point ---> "we just did what we had to... " (your own words) ---> raping a fam as punishment because they 'attacked' you, with rocks maybe?? cause I dont think they had much to attack with when already losing a war against my fam
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we're at war and we chose not to hit until attacked.


my point---> "I just did what I had to..." ---> clearing your spots in my core before you rape my family too.
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you broke NAP.

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yep render.... we were at war with the 10/15 alliance.... and decided to leave 15 out.... but then they got hostile.....

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haha it hurts to find I can win alone all your poor arguments, even being a Napbreaker, I AM RIGHT, you arent. lol

swarley wrote "I offered Render 100% swap lol." ---> did you ever count the planets we had gained in S1 ?? by doing 100% trades your family NOT ONLY should have traded your spots in my core, you should have traded planets in S1 too, sooo absurd!

your option was probably to trade planets in s2 or s3 then inform your ally and they wait hovering for me to take them, right? trade done, and treachery succesfull, what a snake! big_smile

please please go on quoting, I am having fun now!

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lol Render is really retarded, I've had doubts before but no more:

"swarley wrote "I offered Render 100% swap lol." ---> did you ever count the planets we had gained in S1 ?? by doing 100% trades your family NOT ONLY should have traded your spots in my core, you should have traded planets in S1 too, sooo absurd!"

TRADING PLANETS: it means you give me your planet and i give you ONE planet, doesn't necessarily have to be(and definitely won't be) the one in your core. as we've stated before, YOU violated NAP so your planets have to go, we don't have to trade you our planets in your core. I even told you I'd trade you planets you share with 05, since I knew you guys were allied then (while you still tried to lie to me to my face wink). You refused my offer, don't blame me for being a disgraceful player with no shame.

Since you can't find replies to all my points, you're always looking for other little things others say to pick on. Don't worry, I'll refute all your points so people will see what an idiot you are.

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Whatever happened to "STFU and  FIGHT!"?

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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stfu DS..... and get some good arguements why we should use them tongue

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GBTPV! if u can figure this out

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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serenity wrote: "You attacked 3909 before NAP was over... we never voided on you.  3906 cancelled on you 10 ticks or more later. The only one that actually voided was 3906. But you can try and tell yourself whatever you want. you violated the NAP and refused to hand over the planets that you were required to hand over. Therefore youre a NAP breaker, this is why the nap was voided instead of giving you the luxury of the full NAP cancellation time."

I hope it is a typo, we never attacked 3909 before nap was over, it was you guys who attacked 3 tics earlier braking nap, or voiding or wahtever you want, but no we didnt break a nap on your fam, it was the opposite, do I have to post from fam news how Killas started to raid us 3 tics before the war date?

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> Darksider33 wrote:

> GBTPV! if u can figure this out


Get Back To Pinwheel Vulturing wink

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> ~*~Serenity~*~ wrote:


Learn to read Render. I realize English isnt your first language, same as Ariana, so you guys seem to fail at the comprehension part of the language.


I love online translators tongue

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well it's not a matter of langauge, maybe you understand english but you dont comprehend it wink

neither templare, so I have to repeat --> trade planets out of s1 so your ally is waiting hovering for me to take as soon as the nap expires smile

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Why are you bringing up 15s war?  We had no complaints about being beaten.  Its part of the game.

Quack.

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render are ppl being jealous of ur awesomeness again?

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> CJIBclient wrote:

> > Darksider33 wrote:

> GBTPV! if u can figure this out


Get Back To Pinwheel Vulturing wink

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LOL! Okay, maybe that, but close enough. Go back to playing violin! :-P

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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Okay, I'm not going to arguing. I said I am stopping a while ago. So, back to positive side......

I'll say, the war with 08 is the longest one we ever have in all of wars we had this round. 05 is smart to take planets off 08 that they retook from us to keep us from winning psize = awesome challenge. Render's family didnt delete like 10/15. Maybe they didnt fight hard as we would like to think, but at least they're still fighting especially with opping.

That's positive  things about 05/08. Now your turn  to say positives about us! :-D

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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we can make damn long posts tongue At least Temp and seren wink

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Thank you Templare for taking the time and effort to answer to my post to such an extent. I was not able to respond earlier since I had some real-life tasks. I will comment on each point as you did with and put forth the same time and effort you did.

"Render signed the NAP because his family faced extinction at the beginning of round, it was either NAP or being killed off, of course he did what's in the best interest of his family by NAPing, please be careful of your use of the word "forced". He did indeed gain shares through the war with 15 and shares with 06/09."

The use of the word "forced" was accurate and I have nothing to add to the rest of your comment.

"08 cancelled on 09, then 10 ticks later 06 cancelled on 08 for the best interest of their alliance. If Render wanted a honorable war, he would have given the planets back and fought 09 for the first 10 hours. He had every intention to use the shares he acquired as leverage in order to defeat a "seemingly strong" family in 09 which lost two of their main attackers within the last few days. His obliteration was inevitable, and he chose to even the odds by performing an illegal action by agreement."

I fail to see how losing "two of their main attackers within the last few days" is relavant to this case. Atm Render is the only real active attacker and correct me if I am wrong, 09 has 2 active attackers. In your comment, you say that render "uses the shares he acquired as leverage in order to defeat a "seemingly strong" family in 09", but is this not what 09/06 wanted to do with the share's they had with Render? Is this not what EVERY family in war does when their nap expires and they go to war? Yes they are core violations but other than that I fail to see how that is relavant.

"His obliteration was inevitable, and he chose to even the odds by performing an illegal action by agreement." The thing is Templare, his obliteration was evitable. The only way was by performing an illegal action by agreement. If he had stayed honorable as many suggested then his pcount would have definetly not be this high and he would have been killed after the first 2 days. As we speak Render is fighting you, serenity, john conner, (mizzle?), killas, and HJ all alone, I would say he's doing quitte well.

"Basically he pursued dishonor in order to defend his family, that's fair, as long as he admits it. Since you're going to share the "full" story, I'll add a little bit so the rest of Pinwheel is better informed. According to key players in both 08/05, 08 and 05 have recently joined alliance and had been plotting this war for a while. Both family are fully aware of the advantages 08 has on 06/09, and it is the goal of 05 to use their recently acquired allies to both deny victory to 06/09 and compensating themselves for infrawhoring all round.

Since the NAP break performed by Render, 05 alliance has aided over 400mil gc and numbers of million of iron and endu to 08 alliance, in exchange that 08 will give majority of the planets they captured to 05. Because 05 still has PNAP with 06/09, they will be able to hold onto those captures in order to secure their victory in size. When informed that 06 will most likely exceed planet size after the war with 08, members of 05 immediately went forth to plan this maneuver. This plan has backfired to a certain extent, because not only was 08 not able to capture planets to pass to 05, they have lost over 500 planets themselves, despite having the NAP break advantage (all of my shares were cleared). So far, many of the retake planets have been passed to 05.."

"When informed that 06 will most likely exceed planet size after the war with 08, members of 05 immediately went forth to plan this maneuver. "

Not sure where you got that information from, but it is incorrect. The plan was made before 06 cancelled nap with 08. Yes, the plan has back-fired to a certain extent but we are still first in size so it's not a complete failure.


"I must admit that this is not illegal and even clever in the part of 05, but objectively speaking, this would solidify the idea that 05 has failed to done anything significant (you read it right, I said it) this round while coasting to size win (and possibly NW win), while 06/09 managed to beat families that were worth while (including the previously top alliance, who similarly performed a NAP break in order to gain advantage), and beat them badly."

This is not objective at all on the contrary it proves the opposite, that we have influence on PW eventhough we pnapped everyone smile Or did you want us to do something "significant" and break pnap? Because that is the only other thing we can do.

Also, your family managed to beat nobody since everybody deleted before the war started, don't give yourself credit where you do not deserve it. One of the family was at war before with 08 as well.

"I told my alliance to not run into Uni News and run our mouths about all the controversy surrounding the war because we have decided to play with the cards that have been dealt, but since Ariana decided to post his subjective opinion above, I decided it was time for me to reveal all relevant information"

What exactly are you implying with "since Ariana decided to post his subjective opinion above"? I hope you are not implying that your opinion is objective, as it is far from being objective! Nobody's opinion is objective if it come's from 06/09/05/08 so I fail to see the point in that as well. Thank you for revealing that relevant information!

Ariana

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oh and serenity don't talk to me anymore if all you can do is talk shit with no arguments. I am admitting that my family does not have the best communication or activity but your alliance fails at communication even more as your fam was unaware of our pnap with 06 previously, so stfu.

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how many times do i have to say?

stfu, everyone, seriously

both sides made their arguments....no need to waste your time typing!

again, STFU























and fight!

Proverbs 11:14 "Where there is no guidance the people fall,
But in abundance of counselors there is a victory."

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agreed

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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hmmm, honestly, most would have done the same as render if they were in his shoes.

oh, and serenity, your fight with 15 10, was unfair, they were already at war with 1 or 2 fams, and then you cancelled on them... which made it a gangbang. Which, really, doesnt prove anything, except that you can vulture.

What You Dont Know Does Hurt...

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Time to close this gay thread.. just going round in daisy chain circles sad

Shizzle on my nizzle! big_smile

~Jimbeolous~

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and it hit 6 pages
thats 100% sad:.:

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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> Jimbeolous wrote:

> Time to close this gay thread.. just going round in daisy chain circles sad


How gay thread !!!?? yikes  it is my name there in the title yikes


tongue yep yep

Cloud would be jealous


~Render