Topic: Taking You All On

Ok I am officially bored.

I will take on anyone and everyone on one topic. This is a challenge as if I slapped you all in the face and called you cowards

I will make a long list of topics. Choose 3. The top 5 topics in 3 days will become the final list, you will choose 1 from that list. Winning topic is the one I will fix bayonets, fill my sand bags, and defend my position against all comers (even if he wants, Zarf, which would be epic for sure).

I will not do this with less than 6 opponents. You see I do not want to kill children and less than 6 would be infantcide.


My standards for posting

I cannot always go url hunting, if you wish to question something I state you must first investigate it to make sure I am not off the deep end.

I am a truck driver with weird hours. Do not hold me to instant, immeadiate, fast, or quick replies. I reply when I can. Some posts may require more time than I currently have, if you think I am not rreplying, you may politely ask if I intend to reply, because I intend to (see below)

If I call on you about information, since there is far more of you than I, you must provide source information (in English) via a url for me. You can also copy paste from the url to speed me up.

If I catch you ignoring evidence, I can call you out. If you still ignore it I call you wounded in action. Three wounds means in this debate you are dead to me.

If I cannot break your argument, I will be wounded in action. Three wounds and you have killed me and my effort. If I am truly caught ignoring you, and I make replies but do not reference your post after getting called on it, I will accept a wound if Zarf thinks I was hit (if he agrees to judge that specific portion) with avoiding on purpose.



This is war, expect it to get bloody, but a respectful war. I expect trolls to be shot by all parties who are interested in forum reform.


My topics are just topics, my stance on the top 5 topics will be posted, but not on this huge, thumb injury inducing list. Some topics may seem similar, but to some they will be quite different

My topics:
Late term abortion
Crime
Sex ed
Capitalism
Socialism
Free market
Planned economy
Unions
Racism
Republics
Democracies
World policing
UN
Currencies
Fiscal policy
Subsidies
Housing and urban development
Amnesty
Immigration
Border control
Interior dept
EPA
US military
China
Islamic Extremism
Censorship
Terrorism
Espionage
Internet piracy
Fairness doctrine
Global warming
Climate change
Nationalization
To big to fail
Business bailouts
Insurance
Health care
Imperialism
Laws
Judges
The Constitution
State Rights
TEA Parties
Conservatives
Liberals
States Rights
The United States
Canadian Censorship
Welfare
Australian Censorship
ACTA
ACLU
Drug Legalization
Libertarians
Pharmaceuticals
Patents
Copyrights
The American Dream
Small Business
Large Businesses
Monopolies
Lobbyists
Taxes
Fair tax
Flat tax
Tiered taxation
Death tax
Propert taxes
Sales tax
Value added tax (VAT)
Amtrack
Deficits
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
Home loans
Racial profiling
Profiling
War
Pacificism
First Amendment
2nd Amendment
10th Amendment
Big media
Property zoning laws
Environmentalism
Green power
Coal power
Oil
Nuclear power
Gay rights
Affirmative Action
Futures market (consumables)
Stock market
Hospitals
Cash for clunkers
Social security
Fair trade
Free trade
Piracy (Eg Somalia)
Iran
Nukes
Incandescent lightbulbs
'Upgrading for power savings'
Fuel mileage and other vehicle standards
Universities/colleges
Facism
Tyranny
genocide/democide
Democrats
Science funding
Asbestos
AIDS
Black Pathers
'The Race'
Inflation
Minimum wages
Maximum wages
Luxury taxes
Hysteria
Israels right to exist
Early retirement
Biofuels




While this list is by no means exhaustive, and some topics are restricted to specific subsets from the start, it is a huge list.

If no 5 items are clear winners I will remove any topics not selected and/or some of the very least selected and we will further narrow it down to 5.

Try me, or be branded a political coward!

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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You want 6 or more opponents even though you know there are only about three other active debaters on the forum, at least one of whom mostly agrees with you?

tweehonderd graden, dat is waarom ze me mr. fahrenheit noemen, ik reis aan de snelheid van het licht, ik ga een supersonische man van u maken

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Chris, zarf, fool, justinian, kemp, wfs, primo (very active recently), and more.... yes I am saying there are more than six with ease.

I am trying to recover this board and get some converts/motivate those of my same ideologies.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Is this because of THIS?
http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106976
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"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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Just some preliminary investigations of views (I can't really say "I challenge you on the following" without knowing at least what side of the issue I'll be taking...").  In addition, some of these topics are so huge, you have to figure out exactly what the discussion is about...

Imperialism (I assume the question at hand is the benefits of old European/American imperialism, correct?)
Nukes (Generally guessing that you'll affirm the legitimacy of nuclear weapons, correct?)
China (This topic, as you have described it so far, is freaking huge!)
Property zoning laws (I'm going to guess that you don't like them, correct?)
Free trade (Assuming you support free trade, yes?)




yikes By the way, the Stone Age isn't on the list!  tongue

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

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I am not active at all, I read a lot, but don't have the time and energy to effectively post.

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Late term abortion (no)
Crime (you break law, i break legs)
Sex ed (yes)
Racism (no)
World policing (ideally, yes)
UN (it was a nice idea)
Housing and urban development (build up, stupid)
Immigration (yes/no)
China (bad china, bad)
Censorship
Terrorism
* Espionage ?
Internet piracy (i try before i buy)
* To big to fail ?
Health care
Welfare
Drug Legalization (within limits, yes)
Racial profiling (we're different in predictable ways, deal with it) big_smile
Profiling (if the shoe fits, deal with it) big_smile
War big_smile
Pacificism (pfft)
Environmentalism
> Green power
> Coal power
> Oil
> Nuclear power < (i think of them in tandem, together with environmentalism)
Gay rights (marriage?)
Iran big_smile
Nukes big_smile
* 'Upgrading for power savings' ?
AIDS
* 'The Race' ?
Israels right to exist (dubious)


> If I catch you ignoring evidence... <

lol Global warming
lol Climate change

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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Zarf we can do the stone age seperately.

Can you help tamp down on the trolling and general wtf I ain't doing this type posts? Very off topic anymore


As for the positions, to type a premis for that many topics would result in the first dual thumb transplants.

But in general one can assume a generally Conservative viewpoint.

Some topics are capable of being huge, I fully admit it. China for instance has human rights violations, a all powerful national government which breeds abusive regional governments, it is imperialistic, agressive, domineering, has destructive fiscal policy (for others) and would result in a rather epic level of posting.

However if the choice resulted in China I was going to throw on some scuba gear and dive right in with a truly epic opening.

I gave a list so large as to give choices zarf, then a chance to choose from the 5 most popular with a decent to great amount of detail on my stances with regards to the five topics. Were not talking one sentence openers, more like a pargraph or six each.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

9 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 10-May-2010 13:35:42)

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Okay, I gotcha!

Fair tax
Nukes
Imperialism

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

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Put the list into alphabetical order.

I call "Drug legalization"

Drugs should be legalized because they're most often used by liberals and democrats. Taking drugs destroys your mind and makes you more likely to commit a crime. If we legalize drugs, those who live in environments with bad parents (liberals) will take drugs and destroy their minds and go to jail. We can then fix our other problems without interference.


Argue with that.

Rehabilitated IC developer

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Censorship, Drug Legalization, Late term abortion.

Quack.

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2 proper submissions, 1 submission with just 1 topic chosen.

Come on.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Perhaps you could make what you require clearer, flint?

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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Choose your favorite three topics to fight me on.

Top 5 topics will be announced then a new vote from those 5.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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How about this? Why aren't you helping out Tennessee in their time of need? 40 something counties have been declared national disaster areas. At least 20 deaths have been reported and hundreds more are now homeless. New Orleans throws a fit with claims that Bush didn't help them out and everyone knows about it. Over half a state suffers flooding and storm damage, and hardly anyone even mentions it.

Praise Kek

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z0mg TP you're back!

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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Cus we are busy arguing.  Like i said before: Buy a boat and go fishin.

Quack.

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Fair Tax
Islamic Extremism v Christian Extremism
Libertarians

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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So when is this discussion gonna start?

Quack.

20 (edited by twistedpuppet 10-May-2010 03:52:20)

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> Bartender wrote:

> So when is this discussion gonna start?


It shall start later this week with Michael making every excuse in the book as to why he is late making the post.

Praise Kek

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Considering that Flint is using popular vote to determine the topic, it's kind of unrealistic to expect him to start the debate when there is currently a 9-way tie for 1st place.  tongue

Make Eyes Great Again!

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TP I obviously need to come to Tennessee to sex you, but the semi truck I was driving broke and I am stuck headed to Denver.

As for the start? This will be happening one way or another soon as possible... counting votes now.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Considering 4 people, need 2 more.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

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Edited my vote

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

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Called it.

Praise Kek