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/me miss IC and PW
wow I came that close to beating fury in captures? a few days before eor he had like twise as many captures as me ![]()
but thanks fury you held the fam together on the attacking side for the entire round. ![]()
and yeah fankay it was a fun war ![]()
yay we are breaking a record!
that is a good thing right?
PLAYER: Bender (1618)
1.Best Leader
templare
2.Best Diplomat
3.Best Attacker
Load
4.Best Banker
flashy or commie
5.Best Resourcer
tesla ?
6.Best SS Player
7.Best First Rounder
8.Most Honorable Player
Templare
9.Least Honorable Player
hooon
10.Most Planet Fat Player
Bender (guess I will have to vote for myself there yes...
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11.Least Planet Fat Player
meaninless to vote for this, should be removed from the standard voting form...
12.Favorite fam of the round
13.Favorite Theme of the Round
KISS ASS
14.Favorite Family Picture of the Round
15.Sexiest Family of the Round
1618 (Studio 1618!! Where the part y and dancing happens...)
16.Favorite Forum Poster
flashy
17.Most Aggressive Fam
18.Least Aggressive Fam
19.Most Honorable Fam
1601
20.Least Honorable Fam
1606
21.Most Planet Fat Fam
1618
22.Least Planet Fat Fam
23. Biggest Noob of the round
cloud (only cause it would be funny if he won this award
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24.Biggest Drop
25.Biggest Surprise of Round
1612s strike at 1618 before 24h had passed
26.Best Strategy of Round
1612s strike at 1618 before 24h had passed. some say 1612 picking a fight with us early was a big mistake, but I think there early strike at us was an amazing plan. there bigest mistake was acepting a CF with us without geting a pnap. they knew that when we where as close to them as we where ,and didn't want to nap them when they asked, that we would kill them after a little while. in that war we would probably have the upper hand. so instead of waiting to get killed they striked first while our first lasers where still building. if they had kept to this strategi we would probably be forced to give them the pnap they wanted...
27.Worst Mistake of Round
Pickle forgeting to station figs
28.Favorite Quote of Round
29.Most debated topic
1606 stuff
30.Rating (average of nominations)
first half was a 9, second half a 7 so I guess 8 overall
you guys should stop posting here so much... it takes just to much time reading all this crap to get to the post that actually is worth reading. so stop trying to justify yourself in the forums and go back to playing the game instead ![]()
that being said I feel it is worth making a post about all this hostility going on right now. a lot of it comes down to the fact that when ppl do something good, like winning a war or giving out a honorable nap or whatever, they like to get recognition for this. this goes just as much in real life as in IC. and when ppl for some reason don't give you the recognition you feel you deserve, could be you get overshadowed or maybe ppl just didn't care, then you generally get angry.
last round my fam was the fam to beat, and we won against any fam that stood against us, yet we didn't win in size. this round again we have not lost to anybody, and we have beaten almost all that we have encountred. yet fams we feel we have beaten fairly end up over us on the rankings. so for all our achivments this last two rounds, never losing to anybody, we still end up with a testament (rankings) that says we lost. not suprisingly this is a bit hard to face for my fam.
then on the other hand 03 is trying to get recognition for wining this round. and of course since they will probably end up wining the round (by size and that is what matters) they have earned that "bragging right". but this again conflict with my fams wish to be recognized for wining the war against 03.
same thing ,more or less, all over. "yeah we won this war", "yeah but we did really well considering we where much smaler" ect... can't we admit that the other side did well even if we win? can't we do the same when we lose?
so well done 03, you played well
cya next round for a new match
and in a few rounds all this will all be forgoten...
when you are explaining the same thing a thosand times, a thing that you take so for granted that you hardly think it needs explaining, then it is very hard not to sound arrogant. I know I do. I mean I try not to, but I don't really think I'm very successfull.
PLAYER: Bender
1.Best Leader: Load
2.Best Diplomat
3.Best Attacker : Load
4.Best Banker : Bender
5.Best Resourcer : FA
6.Best SS Player
7.Best First Rounder
8.Best Random : so best player basicly then? guess I will have to say Load
10.Most Honorable Player
11.Least Honorable Player
12.Most Planet Fat Player Bender
13.Least Planet Fat Player : Slacky (1513)
14.Favorite fam of the round 1518
15.Favorite Theme of the Round : beers alliance
16.Favorite Forum Poster : flashy
17.Most Aggressive Fam :1511
18.Least Aggressive Fam :1509
19.Most Honorable Fam
20.Least Honorable Fam
21.Most Planet Fat Fam : 1514
22.Least Planet Fat Fam 1509
23. Biggest Noob of the round : Flashy for not taking TOs ![]()
24.Biggest Drop 1511
25.Biggest Surprise of Round 1514 gaining first position in size after a crapy start.
26.Best Strategy of Round : 14/18 working together to take down 1511
27.Worst Mistake of Round 1517 not building defences early
28.Favorite Quote of Round
29.Most debated topic : 1511 vs 1518/1514.
30.Rating (average of nominations) 8.25
(still drunk but can't help but reply to cloud anyway...)
in the first days of the round who lead in income changed fast of course, I'm not claming that I was ahead in income the entire round. I jumped ahead, then someone else jumped ahead of me, this was within my fam as well as I remember steal beating me in income at times... when things stabilised somewhat into the round my fam started checking what others was making I was about even with communists in income but as far as I can remember I had a construction bonus as well as a econ bonus, while all communists had was econ bonus, that put me ahead at that time. second real checkup we did was some time later I admit, and it showed me behind quite a bit in terms of income, but from the infil we had on communist he was making TOs while I switched later (most ppl change to TOs to soon in my opinion.) this is the point of the round I commented on in my last post, this was early in the round in my opinion and it was the point I think he was furthest ahead of me in terms of pure income, while I was still getting lots of cheap RPs from my RCs.
ally me next round cloud and I will be sure to compare with communist more often
but as long as we where not allied my checkups on the other fams thru ops is all I can base this on. basing it only on nw is a good enough indication for me, nw is not something I strive towards, but rather something I don't want to much of.
I got no further prof or anything that I was ahead, I base it on the info I got during the round, of course I don't have all the info, but then who does?
as for us infra whoring, and commie being ahead if we hadn't... well what happneded happened, I will not cast my vote on what would have happned if something else did not happen. our basic success in infrawhoring this round (if you want to call it that) was to not get our infra killed during our conflicts. we have been fighting for most of the round (even if we started heavy fighting later than your fam) but load has been very good at protecting his bankers and resoursers from comming to too much harm.
at this point in the post I realise I should not drink and write as it does become a rant no matter how much I try not to make it one...
but anyway I have sort of made my case, but if we are to continue this disscusion cloud I think we should move it to another thread. I apoligize for starting a disscussion in this voting thread. I might not continue arguing when I sober up, but if you ask real nice I can open another bottle of whiskey and keep going for a few more posts.
and btw cloud don't ever quit this game! you make the game fun playing, and we do love you for it!
cloud voted:
4.Best Banker: Communist (1511) Was the #1 banker for a good bit of the round, after war after war he regained his income which was #2 in the uni to bender until the last war. Great player'
not to take anything away from communitst who seam to be a great banker I was still in front of him early. why? cause he funded reseach at thispoint while I had RCs. I cacled it and I was still in front when you counted everything. (yes we did visions of him.)
I still respect any vote given to the communist, who was extreamly valuble for this fam, but giving him the vote cause he was in front of me early is not correct ![]()
anyway I will cast my own vote tomorrow when I'm not drunk ![]()
not saying I know the situation well enough so I'm not here to cast any blame
but any nap agreed apon, or any other agrements made, should still be kept wheater they are signed ingame or not. keeping your word is just as important here as in real life if you want ppl to respect you.
missleading someone to think that a nap is difrent than it is, or making them belive there is a nap when you don't agree that it is, is just as dishonorable as breaking the nap. naps are about trust betwin ppl. don't break that trust. no idea of any of this happened here, I just bring it up as this is a thing that happends just as often as nap breaks but nobody ever talks about it.
what many forget this days is to make an actual writen agreement for the nap. write it down or copy if from somewhere else, it doesn't matter. as long as both leaders (and fams) can read it and see exactly what this nap is. this will stop a lot of confusion around the nap terms.
but basicly just stop making so many naps!
the link for the tool looks dead...
is it a secret who 1243 allied???
cool! I know a secret then! ![]()
this is the last ranking I got... on the very last tick:
1 GG Pinwheel
(1121) 1946 42532268 177304
2 Idiots on Ice (1107) 1899 26805060 175695
3 RICKING END OF DAYS (1114) 1570 43161916 147764
4 Lords Of War (1113) 1431 17727470 132799
5 Citizens of the Castle (1122) 910 10257448 107014
6 Not Forgotten (1105) 1503 13868639 106395
7 Samurai Warriors (1111) 1078 16541104 105481
8 Darkness (1103) 1045 9944413 96304
9 Cereal Killers (1117) 661 3949821 52666
10 Attack of the Deleters!!! (1119) 708 6522005 47828
11 Fatality Rise (1104) 292 3727214 46631
12 We arent sure yet... (1118) 505 5770510 44325
13 This Makes No Sense (1120) 388 3068247 34383
14 the inactives (1116) 415 3521142 30807
15 Sextans A is the SEXYEST!!! (1115) 305 3314163 25805
16 Dark Carnival (1109) 358 2602039 25125
17 fam so noobie it has no name (1108) 225 1909182 22617
18 Silverbeards Warriors (1112) 111 411622 15383
19 The brotherhood of spirit (1110) 134 847061 10622
20 THE CYBERLAND GANG (1106) 53 381997 4268
as you can see 1121 jump came in just at the end... well we spent our leftover at least ![]()
/me wonders how economically advanced 1121 really are...
what are the other bankers in the galaxy making now?
round is almost over so no harm in tell ppl how much we make right?
myself I make 11M per tick now and I guess my fam as a whole make 30M+ per tick, how is that compared to everyone else?
48hours nap is a good idea if you have any hopes of doing something the rest of the round.
even if you are in mid ranked fam you can save and cancel on the bigger fam. or the forunes may turn and the larger fam might all the sudden find itself mid ranked and you can have a mid ranked vs mid ranked war... or if the mid ranked fam is actually a good fam it may grow to be a top fam...
so if you still have hopes for the round, go for a none pnap... and leave the option for conflict later open.
the power to enforce naps sould be in the community not in the game mechanics.
so if we score points through the entire round that will mean that instead of big fams farming smal fams at the end of the round they will do it all round instead?
seriusly. rankings can be a bit of fun, but don't get to hung up on it, try to have some fun instead.
yes templare I know my fam looks nice, but I'm not sure looks is going to be enough this round....
we might actually need some skill also
PW isn't only there for the noobs. it is there for the ppl who are sick of drafting and way to long rounds.
if everyone is forced to play in a drafting galaxy (and whit longer rounds) then I think many of the PW regulars will leave.
you are all talking about bringing back the old type of galaxy, from "the golden age of IC". well the golden age of IC was before they put drafting into the game. so I would actually suport a merger if it was without drafting, I would even put up with long rounds then. but if I had put my name up on this petition I would allready preatty much agreed to the drafting part, even if you say that what is important about this petition is the merger. well for me I would rather play in a smal galaxy without drafting than in a large one with drafting.
hmm... is this idea really about saving the game, or it is about one last fun round? cause if noobs joining the game only have the option of joining a galaxy where there are 12 draft spots in each fam they will not stay. well one in every hundred might of course but most will just leave when they realise that it is imposible to win, or even to grow. sure it is a blast for those on top, but drafting does kill the game.
the way I see it we basicly want to do two things
a. get new players to join the game (and keep them)
b. keep the old players
problem is that to keep the old players you need to change the game, and most sugestions on how to do that involves making the game more complex. problem is that by making a game where there is already quite a lot to learn all at once for a new player more complex we probably will get fewer new players.
so the best would probably to change something up that doesn't make the game harder to learn for new players.
one thing that has been mentioned a ton of times before is the map. having diferent types of maps each round would defenetly make the old players adjust there strats, while the change for new players would be minimal.
one other easy thing that could be done is to simply change the cost of a building/unit for one round. what if lasers parhaps cost only half for one round? that would change up the tactics for everyone. next round they would be back to normal, but then maybe RSs where half price, or maybe figs is, or wizzards?
by making changes that arn't really permanet you force everyone to constantly change there strategi and tactics and I belive this would really be a good thing.
other things could of course be changed instead. like the number of planets per system, size of planets, upkeep cost (how would a round look with 3 times the upkeep cost for units?), how hard it is to op someone, dobble the speed bonus for everyone, or a ton of other things...
this of course would require mods to be able to change a lot more when they set up a round, and sadly I really can't see that ever happen...
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