2,226

(36 replies, posted in Strategy)

Nandro you have to consider that we do not suddely gain 100 planets with 250 pop tongue Doing a porper switch that start pop can be increased to atleast 20k, and most often up to 40k or so.

Also just to run a simulation here of what i mentioned earlier about exponential growth.

Atm the biggest family in MW is about 6,2 million nw. If we assume that families started with a fair value of 20k nw, that is about the same as doubling your nw 8 times. Now there has passed 21 days of the round so far, and so that means the nw of the family doubles every 2,6 days.

Now using the calculated 20% income advantage for revalon over partax, we assume the income of the family is increased by 20%, that means doubling time is now 2,6 /1,2 = 2,2 days.

In 21 days, that means the nw of the family is now doubled 9,5 times from 20k, meaning a current nw of 14,5 mill nw.

Do you see how that seemingly small increase in income of 20% over the spam of the past 21 days because a difference of over 100% increase in current infra? The bottom line here is basicly that for any extra opping capabilities you gain as a partax, please be very aware of what level of growth you are sacrificing.



About Quantam Nandro, please think twice about that pop growth is really of VERY little value, since a good popper that switches in a good way from CFs will know how to work around it. You ismply cannot calculate it the way you did, and say all planets start at 250 base pop and take it directly from there, because that is simply not how people play pop banker. There is a value gained from the better science, but its just simply outweighed by the advantage of the higher race income bonus. Im not saying Quantams are bad, just that revalon seem a lot better to me.

2,227

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

Strong indications we arent lol

2,228

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

Cloud once again you embarass yourself, stop making up more excuses, for your own sake.

I was in that fam from the beginning, all round, all rounds, ask other members like:

Zidi
SollusSolus
DevilDogs
Tico
Blade
Nandro
etc.

wink

Poor cloud smile

2,229

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

Cloud now you are just making a mockery out of yourself tihi, cause i was in Zidis fam, we were leading it together, and you were not in that fam wink

Man this must be embarassing for you, to be proven wrong on such outright lies

2,230

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

Cloud you are lying smile

I was leading one of the random fams, and the other random fam didnt even make it thorugh. No surprise you are full of crap tho

2,231

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

well my point excactly tongue

2,232

(232 replies, posted in Universal News)

lol Cloud why am i suddenly brought into this?

Ive said it before and ill say it again.

If you wanna see how your ability compares to the big boys in the real galaxy, please feel free to join us.

In the first ICC there was 2 PW families, and everyone agreed we would finally get a chance to compare the level of skill between the two galaxies. Needless to say the two PW fams got destroyed in every way, and ever since there has been an established truth that the level of the galaxies are not at all comparable.

2,233

(36 replies, posted in Strategy)

Mace the players that were previously regarded as exeptional were actually far below the current level of growth that is being played in MW, but since strategies have been refined, and they were ahead of their time, they were suprerior at their time.

2,234

(36 replies, posted in Strategy)

lets see if you think the same after we rape you this round torqez wink

and besides i only said it was an edge, wich everyone knows, not saying it will save you alone

2,235

(36 replies, posted in Strategy)

Ok guys ill put in my two cents here, and when i do, please give me the weighting i deserve.

We will compare two empires, and ill throw in a little extra for you to think about.

First, consider other races than partax, revalons or custom is insane. Im sorry nandro, thx for trying something new, but quantam has too low income and magic, and science and their 25% pop growth does not at all make up for it. Its a creative thought, but just not good enough, not saying its horrible, but its not the best.

As for Custom race, the only valid reason to pick that as i see atm, is to max pop growth, but as ppl nowadays play pop banker with a swtich, and also since the pop growth was increased last round, i dont think its really worth it.

The decision between partax and revalon is indeed as some poeple have pointed out a toss up between what you really want to do.

If you are a die hard opper then ofc u wanna stay partax, but really, as i will try to convince you, i believe revalon is the better.

If you are in an organized family, then you will have other designated oppers that does not carry around extreeme amounts of nw. If i were to op in MW atm, i would be twice the size of anyone i was trying to op, making it costly and hard to op anyone at all. Ofcourse the possibility of opping is worth something, but overall i believe that 90% of the value of a banker is his cash production.


I will now examine 2 different empires, one revalon and one partaxian, to give partax the advantage from magic bonus, what we will do is require both of them to have the same level of magic defence after bonus is applied, and then see what the income difference between them will be.

Banker 1 Partax
50k LQs
50k TOs

50% Eco
50% Welfare

100k wizzies = 170k wizzies

Income = 4.775.000

(we are excluding factors like normal defences etc that are equal for both empires)



Banker 2 Revalon
50k LQs
50k TOs

50% Eco
50% Welfare

243k wizzies = 170k wizzies after bonus

Income = 5.757.000

(we are excluding factors like normal defences etc that are equal for both empires)

Difference in income =  5.757.000 / 4.775.000 = 20,5%


Remember that this is even after they have similar defences.

So basicly, 20% better income even with similar defences. Yes you cannot op enemies, but that wasnt your main purpose from the start anyways.

Not the thought comes:

If you as a banker make 20% more each tick, multiplying itself over and over (IC exponential growth) that difference is huuge in the end.

Now you dont have to take my word for it, but ofcourse the nw ranks of families the last 2 rounds would be a good place to look if you want to see where the best eco planners recide

cantered famnews is back? or was it just never gone?

2,237

(36 replies, posted in Strategy)

Basicly the idea behind this strategy is to outgrow the galaxy by a factor of atleast 50%, and stay that way.
This is a great way to secure your family an edge in times of war, and also easen the strain that exploration and defences has to the family cash flow.

PvC

http://bildr.no/view/576860

nifty statistics if anyones interested

its sorta interesting to see tho, if this had been a 300 pound man killing a 100 pound woman, people woudlve been outraged abou the low pushingment

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583493,00.html

Stop eating thoose burgers!!!

2,242

(7 replies, posted in Strategy)

If u are after more detailed strategies you should try going to the old off IC sites that had more complete strategies posted

<flame> morning wc

god CS, we dont need to know your potty hours

2,244

(19 replies, posted in Universal News)

i think ppl fail at changeing race after using popgrowth bug tongue

i think thats a mistake Kai tongue

and damon!!

we need jets pvc!!!

Ok, i have about 25 hours to setup this entire family as i havent really logged into mw before now, but ill see how it goes tongue

2,249

(14 replies, posted in Drafting)

gurney is right, he does suck, and he whines

Torqez, remmeber that if your fam hadnt been tiny you couldnt have abused the nw rule like you did wink so you guys sucking in infra played to your advantage wink