That's not a typo any more than it is grammar! It's the WRONG WORD(S)!

Brain fart, perhaps. But you made no such claim in your defense!

*dies of tetanus anyway*

Schniepel, if he wanted to say that the US benefited from scientists both fleeing Germany before and pardoned after WWII nobody would disagree. That's a fact. He's not saying that. He's saying a bunch of crazy bull[spit].

You're*

Owned!

Baratheon, that's wild speculation. Have fun with it. I don't care. It doesn't make or back up any point.

They had some advanced ideas and brilliant minds. But you have no basis for claiming a century's advancement and you _grossly_ overstate the development of what were mostly only theories and plans.

Americans have gone leaps and bounds beyond anything any WWII German scientist ever envisioned in WWII. Maybe you're right; maybe they would have been as advanced as the US or much more. But you have absolutely no basis for that speculation.

"And further, Kemp, I am not your history teacher nor am I writing a publication or journal entry; research my claims on your own."

My point is that you're making up complete bull[spit] and I'm calling it what it is. You're fabricating facts. I can't disprove your fiction. That you have absolutely nothing to reference for any of your wild fiction supports my claim you're full of [it]. I challenge you to back up a single thing you've claimed. We both know you can't.

"Let's not forget that only the winner of a war gets to point the finger and go "Crime Against Humanity" and "War Crime"."

Thank you for referencing the millions of civilians which Americans murdered during WWII. It's a dark secret we tried to cover up. But nothing gets past you.

>>"Slaves" in Ancient Greece weren't the same as African slaves that Americans brought, bound and chained, to the US. Albeit this is another example how Americans have a singular and provincial understanding of certain words, I won't digress down that way.<<

They couldn't participate in the political process. They were no equals to citizens. It was an example of the society not being "egalitarian" in even the political-access context. It stands as such an example. It's also an example of there being absolutely no equality if wealth, but that's an absolutely laughable idea and no such examples are necessary.

You fail to mention that slaves were also acquired through war, piracy, and trade.

"Slave" is an English word. We're not speaking Greek and you can't claim a translation error. When we say "slave" in English, we mean "slave." We have words like "servant" for servants and "poor" for those with little wealth. Ancient Athenians had slaves.

Unless you're trolling. Then hahaha. Good one. I honestly can't tell.

I find most things classical fascinating, but the idea of _any_ sort of "discussion" in this context is just silly.

Let's consider a few things...

Massive number of slaves. No equality here.

Non-citizens. Nope, no equality.

But, to their credit, women were... nope. Just kidding.

And after establishing that he meant "egalitarian" only among the minority of human beings there who could participate in the political system, we'd confront the fact that, no, leaders did not receive the same wages as soldiers and quartermasters and... whatever.

There's a bit to be said for the "egalitarian" nature of their political system in regard to access [edit: [for citizens]], but not at all in the "wealth distribution" context used here.

There's plenty to talk about in Ancient Greece. First, wanna specify a city-state? Era? Thanks. But this thread just opens up with a whole lot of apathy that suggests the poster was probably [researching this topic] or something when he posted it. There's absolutely no chance anyone would post such spam if they had _any_ desire to know _any_thing about the topic. Compared to today, he asks? That's just silly. Really, really, ridiculously silly.

[Play nice]

Feel free to link us infomation on this anti-gravity, magnetic field propulsion system the Nazis were working on and the UFOs you claim they were responsible for. "theorized on" doesn't mean "researched" to any meaningful degree and is about .00000001% of "had" or "developed."

You then take your wild speculation and extrapolate. Because who doesn't want to know [bara thinks] the Nazis would be living on Mars if they'd won!

He also seems to be relying on some idea of morality. The word "shouldn't" ambushed his vocabulary in post #11 without a practical explanation of why not, other than perhaps his sense of right and wrong!

Going into space creates CO2. CO2 is going to kill us all. You're discussing the genocide of the human species!

~Wornstrum~:
"This is mean to be a joke, but I wonder how many Americans would try and solve the debt problem by simply printing more money?"

Bad joke and terrible example: Our leaders are already doing that.

xeno syndicated:
"Capitalism is not a zero-sum game.
Obviously, Justinian, under the current financial system framework, it is a negative sum game."

Troll literally doesn't understand what you meant.

His wait was longer than average. Thanks for the spam.

Vague quotes don't change anything. Making [literally] crazy presumptions and basing other ideas on them is just silly.

You even quoted Krugman, who's a fine elitist, academic nutjob.

That some idiot told you we all need to be slaves in a socialist state to be free doesn't make it true. (It doesn't even make sense)

That some idiot claimed history backs him up vaguely without examples doesn't make it so.

What you said 2 posts ago about American democratic society is simply false; the US constitution was drafted with those concerns in mind.

On one hand, you excuse voters of their paramount responsibility to govern themselves. On the other, you claim that limiting their freedom will somehow make them more enlightened and responsible.

I don't know how to say it nicely. Pretending that there's some sort of ideal system to protect voters from themselves is stupid. You're talking about _raising an authority above voters_, which is also know as tyranny or a dictatorship. All such powers to seek to grow, marginalizing and even abolishing all voter power. Such a thing is as bad or worse than idiot voters.