I first thought he elected 3 vices when I looked at the picture. Look at their faces alone, I mean ROTFL.

me too but hey no biggy.

@alan:
The social context,different moral concepts, and public response/pressure can hardly be linked or cathegorised together with  "Stuff You Just Bought Today" or "Say Something About The Person Above - Part 1". I would want it in politics to have at least some political responses as I take this toppic serious. I can't help it it got spammed up. But as I said, no big deal.

@toppic:
He had to step down. He had a lot of negative reactions. Somehow I did foresee this. But I'm surprised how soon.

@yell:
its important you both define what talk about. The ideal imaginary never-existant utopia = final stage of marx, one of the other stages of marx, or countries like eg. the ussr.

If you pick the first one, ironicly, the US undoubtably has come far closer to some communist ideals as eg the ussr on a lot of areas.

@fokker:
He wasn't democraticly ellected and at least you admit last ellections were a joke as well. In any case he still rules on without the vote. There is no change whatsoever.

wereas you said:
"You don't like Putin? I don't like Putin! Does that change the fact that he had to be democratically elected to hold either of the positions he has held?"
the first time he got ellected, he used the secret service to commit a terrorist action so he could invade again. But the first time is debateble. The second time however he oppresed political ennemies. Political rivals disapeared, the state controled press choose side or i.o.w. the media was controled by ones side. Ellection results in less dense areas were known to be often corrupted.

As I explained before, long and clear, he is not ellected democraticly i.m.o.

In any case russian leaders are ruling a despotism and we should call it by its name.

Wheter it is apropriate or not nuns should have contests or not is a political question. The thread got spammed up alright but still.

"That first link definitely did not show a real nun."
I'm an atheist anyway.

who moved this to general??? It obviously political. Its not another voting game.

lol@bief:

@firewing:
it makes me reconsidder an IQ test for being able to vote.

"/me get his full plate + 5"
LOL

"and sex isnt' part of it "
again...why do you tell me afterwards?

"you ass"
I might be naive but ...what has the american sociological association to do with it?

"you don't go checking out another mans wife"
you should have said so...

...dus heb ik mezelf maar op de lijst geplaatst!

@fokker:
"Surely I do not see a mod condemning someone for researching both sides?"
It has nothing to do with yell being a mod. Nor his capabilities of moderating the forums. You shouldn't make a debate that personal.

But back to toppic I would ask you react to my claim russia is not a democracy. If I remember well you said it was. Is your definition of a democracy is having ellections? (not putting words in your mouth, just asking)