> [TI] Primo wrote:

> what a surprise you agree, Lee

if honour were to come back, you'd have to re-learn the entire game!

+1

Also, asking planets for NAP is inherently dishonourable and should be stopped.  "Compensation" - don't get me started. You setup on a family, declare war and raid them, while destroying their infra, beat them into submission and EXPECT to be compensated for the fact they tried to defend themselves? Funny. I'm firmly in agreement with the scenario stated earlier, take X amount of planets from the family (usually around 25%) then offer nap. It saddens me when new players ask planets for nap because they think "that's how it's done".

Also, the community at large should do more to collectively punish nap breakers. (note: this should NEVER be used as a justification for IAs) People get away with it time and time again, no comeback occurs, so they continue in the same manner. Doesn't help that it's usually the bigger, more skilled fams doing it so their size/perceived power is a deterrent to punishing them.

It would help greatly if negotiations were treated better, quite often they are used as a stalling tactic, which while a valid tactic, doesn't really do much to the other fams perception of you honouring the eventual deal. I wish more players /leaders realised what a disservice they do to their fams by doing such things. The "my opponent is going to do it so I'd better do it first" argument doesn't wash guys, if we ALL played even a little more honourably the game would be so much more enjoyable on the whole.

Trouble is.. These players gain enjoyment from the dishonourable tactics and thinking up new ways around clauses / rules. IDK how to deal with this, cheaters always going to be true to their nature unless some life changing event happens. I know we can't affect the change with regulations etc. The only way I see is to limit how many new / inexperienced players learn the 'bad' tactics and habits from them, by collectively setting a better example to follow.

So I entreat you, my fellow IC'ers, next time you're negotiating a truce, next time you're planning a war, next time you're looking for targets - ask yourselves "Should I be doing this in this manner?" We're all educated people, be your own conscience - don't rely on the mods/devels to be it for you. Don't like how the game is played? Fine, but BE that change, don't rely on others to change it for you.

> Render wrote:

> This is not the 1st time this bug happens, I've read about fleet dissapearing and fleet appearing before (like Philadelphia project) in this bugs thread. Once I got 1 ezploship appearing in my fleet from nowhere after attacking 1 planet the e-ship was stationed in that planet (yes you read ok, 1 e-ship stationed).  It's nothing to worry about when the fleet lost/gained is minimum, but when u're talking about 1m figs then we'll have to look into it deeper.

Imo that fleet went accidentaly to another empire's fleet, we'd need to know who received that gift, and that's hard to know, because people don't post in bugs when the bug is beneficial for them.

Haha the stationed explo ship was amazeballs

To stop Einstein, girls must be small enough to fit through doorways! !

> ~Wornstrum~ wrote:

> [self edit]

Forget it...

+1

Wow I agree with Flint... who knew :\

+10 Flint
(based on first post alone)

Any chance we can make it a rule so that only *reputable* citation sources can be used??

that's because they're russian and would be shot if they did...

Thanks everyone   Will be a lot of pictures to come (having big traditional chinese ceremony in January).  She's not a gamer sadly Richard, however she does enjoy watching them be played.

wine runs windows programs in linux...

sup?

krazyglue??