Which Dune series? Frank Herbert or Brian Herbert?

"Ringworld" by Larry Niven series is good. Also the "Gateway" series by Frederick Pohl but it's kind of whiny.  Those are hard science-fiction.

There are two books about the Moties, "The Mote in God's Eye" and "The Gripping Hand"--by Niven and Jerry Pournelle.  I liked the first one better.

Robert A. Heinlein did a lot of powerful sociology science-fiction up to the 1970s.  "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is about a penal colony that breaks free of Terran rule.  "Stranger in a Strange Land" is a classic of the counterculture, a Man raised by Martians comes back to earth.  "Starship Troopers" is a LOT better than the movies.

For an interesting twist read "Starship Troopers" and then "The Forever War" by Joe Haldeman.  Haldeman lost a leg in Vietnam and his Galactic war story is about draftees who hate all authority.  Try to get an older version, the "New Author's Version" is one where Haldeman tore up what Ben Bova taught him and shows his original draft of the story.

Keith Laumer does a series about a future Earth diplomat who has to stop Earth pansies from giving away our galaxy to alien dictators, usually by breaking into their HQ and slapping around their bosses.  Its done for laughs.  It's called the "Retief" series, the best are collections of short stories from the 1960s.

Maureen F. McHugh did a really great novel about a future USA hit with drought and overrun by Maoist revolutionaries called "China Mountain Zhang", a half-Chinese American learns how to deal while studying architecture on both sides of the Pacific, and side-stories about street kids hang-glider racing among NY skyscrapers, and their friends on a lunar forced-labor farm.

Ender was a good series but not my favorite.  Hitchhiker's Guide was a great series but Adams died before he could make a happy ending in a sixth book.

Harry Harrison did the "Stainless Steel Rat" series which is awesome, not as preachy as his "Deathworld" series.   He also did a series about an alternate Earth where dinosaurs got sentient and learnt to breed biological alternatives to our motorized society, like algae that poop steel into seamless bands, and giant itchysaurs that can haul cargo across oceans--and the human beings that fight them.

You can't just come here and say your boss got fired and leave us hanging!

Now my day is sad

I'm catching up!

BW didn't lend me the $200 so sorry for you BW!  Don't cry too hard!

yeah but we're generally nicer than other major world powers, in that we sponsor development.
anyhow we're about to launch the Foriegn Policy of Dumbassedness

"lol Whenever I want to read anything that doesn't make sense. I just come to the good ol politics forum =p"

Ha we're tyros here.  Of course we have a more limited format.
On Halloween Night, 2007 a bunch of Americans started arguing online about whether the Bush Administration organized torture.  They were stopped on January 13, 2008, after 3400 posts.

http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/25330/

not really "hoping" but curious

mishe should go see a doctor because she might have strep

John McCain.  Tree-hugging SOB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuRHRRYHKIY

McCain is a doofus.

Yes Hamas praised Obama.  Yes members of Obama's staff said that was great. 

BUT Obama hasn't said it was great and he can't really help what Hamas says, and McCain knows it.

What makes McCain a doofus is, there was a McCain rally a month ago and a pep speaker was warming up the crowd to hear McCain, and he referred to "Barack Hussein Obama, the Chicago hack" and McCain ran out into the parking lot and went before the cameras and denounced the guy.

So not only is McCain stretching the truth to smear Obama, he's a backstabber.

BTW Obama is just a liberal goof who will be a tool of Carter's crew, it's already happening.  we're screwed.

Grape it in hell you mean?

lukewarm coffee sucks

the island is the home of the Macross Birdman!!