h4e will find something to mock/laugh about.

the same thing they did to greece?

how is this still surprising?

so am i... closest system at 80% speed is 3 ticks

and said system is next to someone else's hs... it just gets better and better :s

> King wrote:

> I think RD has been so outspoken cause it was his idea and his idea only that death should drop fleet ... so he is to be blamed for the major fail!

Don't worry - everyone makes mistakes, probably not of that magnitude but stuff happens ... C'est la vie!

.... King then runs into a laser trap - D'oh ... I guess I just made an RD

Was not my idea. However I did not disagree with it at the time so I can't say I did anything to prevent it. And apart from that I have made 0 mistakes this war, and I haven't ran into a laser trap since my second round. Now what's next?

> Metrex wrote:

> Bitch move.

Yes it is a bitch move. So? Oh and if you noticed some people in their fam were hardly harmed. Perhaps there was a reason? Oh right, it's called being nice and others will be nice to you.

> [Marauder] wrote:

> RD just give up the argument you are probably the least experienced person posting here

Also, its just plain rude to try ruin the rest of a fams round just for winning a fair war against you... war winners deserve to be rewarded for their superior skills and tactics, not hit by some under-handed maggot move like deleting after a raid

I may be least experienced but that doesn't mean I'm a bad player. I've learned a lot through playing with good people, especially the couple rounds I went to mw because I was fed up with PW inactivity.
Oh and at the time everyone in chat agreed with us. Our round was over with our main ressie deleting. But then again, I guess even Serenity agreed, as he was first to delete!
And I wouldn't call coring a show of superior skills and tactics... although it is one of my personal favorite strats, it gets frowned upon for not taking any "skill" or "tactics" so...

> Rain wrote:

> Wtf has happened to ic? 2 fams with mass deletes so far. [Rainbow] gay

It's happened before in the short time I've played, so I don't get what you mean here.

> InSaNe wrote:

> Obtw I love you Rd and Onion =P

<3

> CrazyOne wrote:

> Rain, thats MW people messing PW up

Because I clearly didn't play 90% of my rounds in PW...

> killbox wrote:

> Lol, same old IC.. 1000 planets vs 100 planets :    )

We had more at start, was a fair war. No unfairness in fam sizes.

/me goes back into not-posting-mode.... although last time it wasn't succesful at all

> RisingDown wrote:

> However, I did not say it was a smart move. I have said multiple times that in hindsight we should've kept the big fleet as a bargaining tool to get a good nap, and that would have been the ONLY use for the big fleet. But that is in hindsight. We got greedy for planets and icd dropped fleet to grab some without having to blow them up. That ruined our chances of getting an easy nap as 03 saw it as a sign of weakness and decided to jump their little guy that had spread all over our core like a cancer.

that clearly is me saying it was not  smart move, isn't it?
I'm just trying to say it wasn't as stupid as everyone thinks it was.

Render, as I've said before no one was in range, corwell being in pmode and pangea having been cleared. 35% range that is, as we got greedy and wanted planets. Becoming greedy was a mistake, yes. Aside from that only 1 banker was within 25% range iirc, which wouldn't have been very lucrative either. Plus ICD had enough shares to kill all of their bankers' ground with the smaller ground. Trust me Render i know what was going on, I was still around when icd dropped fleet. I only left the next day for my day off.
Sadly ICD had to move and apparently had net issues while moving and so couldn't clear any more shares. Then they started taking his portals. ICD only came back today I think so his fleet wouldn't have made a change at all, instead only hindered us as we'd have to have payed for his upkeep.

However, I did not say it was a smart move. I have said multiple times that in hindsight we should've kept the big fleet as a bargaining tool to get a good nap, and that would have been the ONLY use for the big fleet. But that is in hindsight. We got greedy for planets and icd dropped fleet to grab some without having to blow them up. That ruined our chances of getting an easy nap as 03 saw it as a sign of weakness and decided to jump their little guy that had spread all over our core like a cancer.

oh and one last point: what ICD disbanded were his figs and his soldiers. He had enough droids remaining to clear pangea if necessary and to kill bankers' ground effectively. So no render, the point you made about ground running is not valid in this case at all as ICD was still capable of ground running everyone in 03 after he disbanded.

I say i post my last post and serenity starts talking smack thinking i can't do anything against it!

CLEARLY i didn't do anything. because CLEARLY i didn't have the least fleet and still played one of the most important parts in the war. Who killed the ground of 03's reccies? oh, that was me, in both cases (kelso & bush)!

So i would like to know why you think i didn't do anything. I was gone for around 22 hours, that is correct, but i had told you this beforehand. That is why i didn't jump. But even with my small fleet (and my 48% military ) I was still able to do maybe the most damage. ICD did a lot of damage too, after he dropped fleet and cleared shares, but Serenity does not see this as a smart move so we'll disregard those planets. If we do, all that ICD did was clear simon corwell and pangea. An important job, that is true. But if he hadn't dropped fleet, he wouldn't have been able to do anything else: simon corwell was in pmode and pangea was gone, cleared everywhere.
Now what did Orion do? Orion was the guy doing clean up duty after I killed ground. He was essential in the fact that he had 200% speed and a good raiding fleet, after i'd kicked down their ground to nothing. Orion might've taken most planets, but he did not do that without my help. Not trying to bash orion, he did good and did his part, but clearly he didn't do everything by himself.

Furthermore i took 32 planets in 1 raid after you deleted serenity, just before i did so myself. This raid actually provided Orion with easy targets to raid himself. The initial plan was to have Orion break some ports first to kill some ground so i'd lose less, but since Orion didn't show up at 4 am and I wanted to go to bed asap, i decided to just go for it. The result: 3 failed attacks, 32 planets taken, and a reccie with 2.5k sols left.
Earlier in round i crashed 00's attacker's fleet multiple times, and took part in every war except for our war with 98 because i was occupied with 00 at the time.

One of the complaints you like to use is that our attackers ate all of your cash, which resulted in you not being able to build defenses. I'd like to remind you that I was our smallest attacker all round, had kept myself with a modest fleet to reduce the upkeep the fam would have to pay for, had not done any big fleet jumpes, and still was able to keep up with orion & icd in planets taken. Do you want to know why we didn't have cash? because 00 had opped our bankers, and i didn't have sufficient fleet to do a good raid on 00. Luckily their attacker didn't like to check cpff'd planets for figs and crashed fleet numerous times. Otherwise we would've gotten opped for an even longer time.

So saying I didn't do anything because I was gone for 22 hours or during the rest of the round is just foolish. The planet names from my last raid are my testimony: I named them after ships sunken/badly damaged by kamikaze attacks. Go look for em, there should be 36 orso (32 from my last raid, 4 more from planets i still had).

And your delete only showed i was right at bor when i told everyone not to aid you and to kill you off asap. Too bad we lacked active recoursers so  ICD decided to keep you, as you seemed active at the time and had supposedly "turned a new page in your book". Yeah, that lasted 5 days, then old Serenity came back.
The argument you won was that you were vital to the fam. That is true. However, that was not part of the discussion we had just before you deleted, it wasn't even mentioned. And if it was, it was just a treat. I ignore treats in discussions: they are the worst arguments ever, they are not even arguments at all but just ways for whiney idiots to get what they want. So what have you really proven with your deletion? How bad of an attitude you have, how spoiled you are: Serenity doesn't get what he wants, so he deletes.

Serenity has pulled the same move twice on me now, in 2 consequetive rounds. He sucks at everything else than banking, which everyone can do a decent job at if they spend a little time. Whenever he doesn't get what he wants, he cries like a little baby up and till the day he deletes. He is lazy as hell, and if you ask him for ops when he is in fact supposed to be an opper, he becomes angry.
I do not understand why people still want to play with this guy. I hope you quit, Serenity, and don't come back this time.

our mistake was that we got to greedy. i did not know of the 100 planet agreement. It would have worked out a lot better for us if we had napped after 100 planets!

And we were not going to give you 150 planets, not before scorpions raid (when we still thought we were in the race)  and not after (when we got cored terribly and lost over a hundred planets, and had serenity delete). So, since we couldn't get a better deal, we just decided to have a lil fun.

I've told this story innumerable times now, and this has been the last one. For people who still don't get it, read the previous posts!

much love <3

yes because you accepted that right?

and my own offer was 200 planets, that was what i told easyway. i don't know if he passed that message on to you.

I'm feeling pretty good for being a bad loser .

and i think i did as much in the process of having him delete as you did!

oh and poley, you did NOTHING this entire war, so you can shut up like the lil nub you are <3.

it was all kauuss and scorp that necked us, and icd moving/leaving/whatever you guys wanna think. And perhaps my one day of absence but i doubt that made any difference since i've been the smallest attacker in my fam all round.