So what experience does Biden bring Obama when Obama won't listen to biden? Who WILL help Obama run things?

No, legal age sex.

story that ran in USA was Gary Glitter had a 13 yr old, that true?

oh right nolio--he said if we werent' taking casualties he'd be ok with 100 years like Korea or Germany.  Which is misleading ebcause we always take casualties in Korea.  There's no treaty you might not remember that because that doofus Madeline ALbright threw money at Kim Jong Il iwthout ending the war.

Republicans refuse to enact just about anything as a party.  Even Bush's tax cuts passed a republican congress with time limits, and guys like McCain voted against them.

Right now there's not much Conservative leadership in US politics, especially with this bailout.

Democrats are socially liberal, which means people lose the right to opt out of providing services on moral grounds and have the liberal agenda taught as the default in schools.  Democrats also want higher taxes and more spending.  Democrats don't mind a deficit if it pays for what they want.  They are also about bigger regulation and unquestioned power of the government.

Thats a trimmed quote Gladiator.
He said if we werent taking casualties.

Obama also has a lying ad where he says McCain would take half your Social Security benefits.

I can hear Kang and Kodos laughing their asses off

Funny how his cunning refusal to say anything but "protect main street as well as wall street" is EXACTLY what he'd do if he were an idiot.

>>It's right next to the carpark behind a big bush, and I was once walking through that carpark, and I heard someone wolfwhistle me. I turned around and it happened again and again but I couldn't see anyone and I was starting to get a bit creeped out. Needless to say, my mum was like "You fool". Darned cockatoos.<<

Maybe they were whistling at your mom?

so umm just about every financial analyst, economic expert, more importantly cramer   are wrong..and you're right?

It looks like it. 

"Fed staff discovered that one reason the federal-funds rate was behaving so abnormally was because money-market funds were building up cash in preparation for redemptions, leaving hoards of cash at their banks that the banks wouldn't invest.

U.S. depositary institutions on average held excess reserves of $90 billion each day this week, estimates Lou Crandall, chief economist at Wrightson ICAP. This is cash the banks hold on the sidelines that does not earn any interest. That compares with an average of $2 billion, he says, noting he estimates banks held $190 billion in excess cash on Thursday, as they feared they'd have to meet many obligations at the same time.

Through Wednesday, money-market fund investors -- including institutional investors such as corporate treasurers, pension funds and sovereign wealth funds -- pulled out a record $144.5 billion, according to AMG Data Services. The industry had $7.1 billion in redemptions the week before.

Without these funds' participation, the $1.7 trillion commercial-paper market, which finances automakers' lending arms or banks credit-card units, faced higher costs. The commercial-paper market shrank by $52.1 billion in the week ended Wednesday, according to data from the Federal Reserve, the largest weekly decline since December.

Without commercial paper, "factories would have to shut down, people would lose their jobs and there would be an effect on the real economy," says Paul Schott Stevens, president of the Investment Company Institute mutual-fund trade group."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122186563104158747.html

Get that?  There is hundreds of billions in the private sector that is not being loaned out so these companies can cover the potential cost of bad mortages and insuring bad mortgages.

But what's the proper goad to get them to loan the money?  Higher interest rates.  When factory owners pay more to borrow the money that is out there, more people will make loans.

Avoiding an economic slowdown is not the govts job.  Especially not by adding 10% to the national debt and 50% to our annual spending.

>>also on a side note, the banks that withstood the great depression, are bowing out to this recession, this economic mess, they're going bankrupt<<

SOME of them.  And so what? The deposits are insured.

The money is out there, the stock market booms prove that.  When the money is out there, whatever the short-term panic, it will be applied to opportunities to earn money.  All it takes is a cheaper price of businesses or better terms.  The engine of our economy is not at risk. What is at risk is the bloated prices we enjoyed all summer.

PS Jim Kramer?  That hack?  That pig?  That toad of a swine, that crybaby?  Who demands a fed rate cut rather than endure a month-long drop in profits? Of what concern is that to the federal govt???  This bailout threatens the dollar itself!

It was an Associated Press report!

>>Says the USA president... it doesn't mean that any other country in the world will accept it, and thus it's not allowed.
Sounds kinda idiotic.<<

Oh well if its not allowed...

maybe we should put up signs LOITERING AND TERROR ATTACKS STRICTLY PROHIBITED CC 1940.33