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(7 replies, posted in Politics)

>>The system still seems (for lack of a better term) wonky. I mean, take California for example. If I understand it right as along as 50% +1 vote Democrat, the Democrats get 55 votes. But what the if majority of people of people in northern Cal. vote Republican, but due to an increased population in southern cities voting Democrat, the large percentage of voters in northern Cal. are not being heard represented when they go to vote.

Not to start trolling here, but the Canadian System seems more democratic in the sense that every each vote carries more weight. They way we have the country divided into 308 (might be larger) sections of roughly equal populations gives more insight into who is really voting for who. Example: in my home province, we only have 7 districts that represent us at a national level. Yet, in the most recent election, 3 of the most urban areas -shamefully- voted Conservative, will the 4 rural districts voted Liberal.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of

>>any of you hear about the road to no where thing, apparently the bridge wasn't built, the money was kept BUT, 8 million us tax payers dollars were spent for the road to nowhere, it was supposed to be the road that would link with the bridge, but now since there isn't a bridge there, it's just there, and no one travels on it

NO ONEE... the toll collector they placed there, hasn't seen a car almost ever, the only people she collected the tolls was from the media who wanted to get in and go to the end of the road<<

Yeah what happened is that community asked for a bridge, Palin passed the request to Congress, AK's Republicans in Congress were going to earmark $700 million for a specific bridge, it became a national laughingstock, Palin opposed that bridge, to save face the AK Republican Senator stevens earmarked $$$$$$ to AK for "transportation" in the hope they'd take the hint and build the bridge anyway, Palin said they will build a connector for that town but something a lot cheaper than $700 million, and then spent the $$$$$$ all over Alaska as allowed for by Congress.  That is how a lot of earmarks are worded, tehy specify the amount and the state government but don't name any specific project...but there's a handshake deal between the author and the state govt that a $35 million museum to cow fart measuring instruments will receive "priority"

So that is why there is a road to a bridget that hasn't been built yet.

In my county is a fwy called the 210. And it dead ends!  A dead end fwy!!! Yeah there's a sign saying they'll connect it in 2013 and they start work 2009 BUT THERE"S A DEADEND FREEWAY!!!! BOOOOOSH STRIKES AGAIN

They paid their money...they knew what they were getting into...I say, let'em crash!

While I agree most of team McCain deserves to die like Il Duce, including senor cuomoforSEC hisself, what should Karzai and Palin chat about?  Ignoring Bush and leaving deployment levels to the next administration like youknowwho?

12,205

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

actually word now is that he did die

12,206

(9,083 replies, posted in General)

is named after a GTA mod starring Pinocchio

12,207

(88 replies, posted in General)

2.2 lbs per kg

I'm about 300 lbs, 5ft 11 inches

no fair!

12,209

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Oh I dunno, goes to show what determined free people can do with a gun

whether you fight the standardization of weights in fruit markets with a STEN is up to yuo I guess

I'm interested about the details, it sounds the first reports are exaggerated a bit

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(11 replies, posted in Politics)

hmm, yes, move it to Politics...

12,211

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

>>Having a gun = freedom?

Get a life, go shoot someone.<<

Your great-grandfather and grandfather thought so, that's why we airdropped them into Reich territory.

"KAUHAJOKI, Finland (AP) - A masked gunman whose violent YouTube postings prompted police to question him a day ago opened fire Tuesday at his trade school in western Finland, killing ten people before shooting himself in the head.

...The gunman had been questioned only Monday by police about YouTube postings in which he is seen firing a handgun, but he was released because there was no legal reason to hold him, Interior Minister Anne Holmlund said.

Police spokesman Jari Neulaniemi said the attacker walked into the school armed with a .22-caliber pistol and some kind of explosive devices that were used to start a fire. He killed 10 people, some of whom were burned beyond recognition, Neulaniemi said. The big bag apparently contained the explosives.

It was Finland's second school massacre in less than a year and the two attacks had eerie similarities. Both gunmen posted violent clips on YouTube prior to the massacres, both were fascinated by the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado, both attacked their own schools and both died after shooting themselves in the head.

The gunman was taken to a hospital in Tampere, about two hours away, along with a female victim he had shot in the head, hospital officials said. The gunman later died, according to hospital's medical director.

The female victim's condition was not immediately clear. Police said two people were wounded, in addition to the 10 victims and dead shooter.

Finnish broadcaster YLE said police identified the gunman as Matti Juhani Saari, a 22-year-old student at the school, which offers courses in catering, tourism, nursing and home economics.

...Finnish authorities did not confirm exactly what YouTube clips were linked to the shooter.

But in one YouTube clip, a young man wearing a leather jacket fires several shots in rapid succession with a handgun at what appears to be a shooting range.

The posting was made five days before the shooting and the location was given as Kauhajoki (pronounced COW-ha-yer-key)

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(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Um I forgot to say too bad for the people he killed, didn't mean to be callous, I'm hungover.

12,213

(56 replies, posted in Politics)

Our federal debt is just about equal to the GDP.

12,214

(7 replies, posted in Politics)

I don't think its possible for any forseeable amount of time, that tie happened when we had fewer than 20 states.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

if you look back at the last twenty years of elections
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1996
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1988

Notice how much of the map is static.  The big shift is the growth of CA to 55 electoral votes and it's SOLID Democrat tilt.   Since McCain seems locked to getting a solid south and west apart from the pacific coast, it's gonna hinge on Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida.  Whoever gets two of those three probably will clinch it.

If it DID happen I think the House would elect the popular winner.

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(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Justinian

lots of those folks are skilled and in much of Europe a native-born European is not a European if his parents were not formal citizens.  Legal immigrants give birth to legal immigrants.  So they have third-generation "immigrants" in their cities.

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(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Silly Finns, Americans never fail to kill themselves at the end of a shooting spree

Um when I went thru I borrowed 100% tuition. And incidentals made me pick colleges close to home. And its a 30 yr pyment plan so whats your bitch, the world owe you a living? And what do you care if its state or federal aid?

We're a FEDERAL system.   Can states pay for a war?  No.  So if the war is too expensive then state budgets can start picking up the slack for shared responsibility.

I would not pay one cent to a person to keep them from being a crook.

And I borrowed my way through school and had a part-time job, and so can you.

Right Nolio, so he was NOT calling for a 100 year war.

"The charge results from comments McCain made at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire in January. After a questioner told McCain that President Bush has talked about staying in Iraq for 50 years, McCain said, "make it a hundred."

He continued: "We've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me, as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed."

Here's the video:

McCain appears to be talking about maintaining a presence in Iraq, not continuing the type of war America is now fighting. He suggests it would be acceptable to "maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world" similar to that in Japan and Korea.

The nonpartisan Annenberg Political Fact Check calls the DNC's suggestion, based on these comments, that McCain has called for an "endless war" in Iraq a "rank falsehood."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/01/politics/horserace/entry3985914.shtml

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(78 replies, posted in Politics)

THIS is patriotism.  Do you have the spirit of that humble cow?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyKyucGBbYM

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

The current measure of "deficit""surplus" is wildly off anyhow.  Since 1974 Congress has been looting all Social Security payments and writing itself an IOU plus interest for the next year.  This is like Pop taking $20 out of the cash drawer and writing an IOU for $21---and counting it as an asset.   If that is reckoned as a debt--and Congress will have to pay every penny of it out to recipients--there has not been a budget surplus since 1973.

Learning a lesson from the Articles of Confederation that preceded our Constitution, it is written into our Constitution that Congress may never default on a debt.  But when it hits the fan that will be rewritten.  One method that comes to mind is assessing a tax on foriegn-held T-bills equal to the amount of interest paid out--so our Chinese friends only get what they paid up front.

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(37 replies, posted in Politics)

dont bother if you're gonna tout Obama even wehn you know he's wrong

>>war will almost, in all situations be the most costly, in innocent lives and money wise too

$10 billion dollars a month for a war vs. a round trip ticket for you and your companions
100's of deaths a day vs. the risk of your plane crashing

you decide, which one is more costly, war or talking<<

Talking often fails you know. It works great when you're not involved, when you're mediating as a 3rd party
but direct diplomacy often fails

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(9,083 replies, posted in General)

wants a cookie

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

Try posting rates?  There's a congressional report, next saturday I'l go look up the title.  It prints it out for each quarter over 50 years.

But yeah, skipping FDR and most of Ike is bogus.

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(31 replies, posted in Politics)

yeah I said McCain is a liar and a weasel, his immigration plan is treason and he's a flop on the economy

I said we're screwed in 2008