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The automatic market in SD which had a 15% per tick shot at randomly changing prices and pretty much made infra meaningless is laughing at your post, Primo. ![]()
@Mace
Remember, Flint's "$100 million" number is supposed to be for just following the regulations in California. So comparing that number to the amount of Americans... isn't really a fair analysis since only roughly about 12% of the country lives there, so they would be the ones benefiting from it.
1: No study is needed on this, since the label is not asking "is this a good modification." You're required to notify if your product is modified. It could have been genetically modified to have extra Vitamin A or to release the T-virus... either way... are you really saying companies don't know the breed of their own corn crops? Plus, one more thing on this which is at the bottom of this post.
2: Okay. No argument here.
3: This isn't that hard. Cigarettes and allergy-inducing ingredients have given plenty of experience in disclosing "may contain genetically modified ingredients." Additionally, as with cigarettes, the regulatory agency often writes what is legally required to put on the box (that Surgeon General's Warning is not the wording of the cigarette companies). In fact, I just went on the FDA website and they already have a series of pre-written "how to disclose GM foods" setups. So yeah, you may need a lawyer... but you could probably get away with hiring dpenguins! ![]()
4: Have you seen labels nowadays? Seriously, this same argument could be applied to sooooo many foods that have labels today. This isn't actually a unique problem. If it were, we would never know about the high fructose corn syrup, red 13, etc., in our food. This isn't a game-breaker for businesses.
5: This is easy to fix, and at every level. Why? Because businesses have business relationships.
Example: I purchase wheat and corn to make corn bread which I package and sell. Generally, I ask my suppliers basic questions about their products (after all... I can't exactly use white corn for corn bread... who would want that? bleh!).
Now, the suppliers are the ones actually handling the product they sell. The farmer has complete control over their crop, supplying the seeds used to grow the corn. More than anyone, the corn farmer knows what type of corn they're actually growing, because they have complete control.
So... back to my bakery! How do I find out what my bread is made from? Simple: call my wheat and corn suppliers. "Hey, are you using genetically modified corn? Yes? Okay, thanks!"
It's not like they're buying their business supplies out of the back of someone's Ford. There's formal business contracts which generally include such disclosures. This means the actual cost of determining whether or not food food is genetically modified... is near 0, simply because the supply chain can provide that exact information.
And when he says "On undeath," he means "currently stacked on top of him in an amazing feat of balance!"
Okay, seriously... Polaris?
http://files-cdn.formspring.me/photos/20120607/n4fd113fd674c2.jpg
(No, this is not part of the "Guess who or what" game! This is Genesis right now) ![]()
That's like saying "I'm too drunk to call a cab home!"
What are the added compliance costs? It's a label on a box.
You'd have to show damages worthy of compensation to sue. "I spent 1 minute reading this, then throwing it in the spam folder" probably wouldn't count.
I'm going to give you one shot to prove to me that wasn't a drunk post.... then I'm editing it as off-topic. ![]()
Is that the book that I've been waiting 6 months for you to finish reading? ![]()
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_478
He can say he has a strong connection to the Jewish population and to Israel... but empirically, voting results show that's just not an issue the Jewish vote actually votes on. Otherwise, that would have resonated at some point in US history. Hell, Bush should have gained some pro-Israel credibility in 2004, if anything. However, as can be seen... the only instance in which the Jewish vote actually goes Republican during the past 100 years... is for Hubert Humphrey, which was long before Israel even became a state anyway. And we're not even talking about close results here. There are only 2 elections since the creation of Israel in which the Jewish vote in presidential elections is decided by a margin of 20 points or less. Maybe it's just empirically not an important issue? Otherwise... there'd be SOME dent!
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html
But yeah, that then brings an entirely different question into the field: If US policy toward Israel was an issue strong enough to manifest as a key issue for the Jewish population... the Jewish population should have been Republican for decades. ![]()
History would STRONGLY beg to differ with you, Primo.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jewish-voting-in-the-united-states-a-historic-perspective/
I'm trying to find statistics on it... but yeah, it's sort of a given for a LONG time that the Jewish vote generally favors Democrats.
It has to do with Romney in that "votes" are part of a competitive event (an election) in which votes lost by one candidate either abstain or generally vote for the other candidate. In effect, this thread is framed as an issue within the issue of election result prediction.
Functionally, it's the equivalent of if a candidate made an accidental racial slur against a minority, and someone claimed that the slur ruined that person's chances at winning. Saying "but his opponent is actively attacking that minority to the point where they would never vote for him even if they did turn against their favored candidate" is still an on-point reply.
EDIT: I'm only interjecting with regards to the question of whether a Romney-related equivalent issue is on point. I haven't actually read the link enough to give a warranted ruling just yet. ![]()
Old forum. Otherwise, I would have been showing off my normal tag much more often than I do now! ![]()
Psst... notice Gen's tag. ![]()
Major General Gordon Cresswell, played by David Andrews
(Stole dpeng's win!)
Why... do people take me seriously on this forum anymore? Jeeez!
Does this mean if there's a rules violation, we would have to bring people before a World Court equivalent, where the defendant could filibuster the court until they die of a heart attack years after the arrest, long before being anywhere near getting convicted?
Everyone who isn't getting a thread just for them and who is starting to feel jealous, raise your hand! ![]()
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