History = Good
Map = Bad

> V.Kemp wrote:
> [blah blah blah rape blah blah blah rape] <

Rape is only wrong because society says it is is wrong, and even then only for people. Did you know that pigs don't merely have sex? The male frequently rapes the sow in order to impregnate her, now, is that wrong? Is that immoral? Should I punish my piggie?

*You even suggest that I think rape is acceptable and I'll put LSD in your water supply.

I kind of miss playing Bel-erm I mean Valkan.

> V.Kemp wrote:
> That's our predicament.
Any direct action would have unwanted, unavoidable consequences. We REALLY don't want this.
Any indirect actions have and continue to be uneffective. They get support elsewhere, from players who don't care if Iran gets nukes and wipes Israel off the face of the earth.
So we'll continue sitting on our hands while diplomatic efforts fail continually. But Israel's existence is on the line and everyone knows it. They won't. God bless them when the time comes.<

Let us pretend, for one paranoid moment, that Iran really has dropped a nuclear bomb on Isreal; Then what? Every country on the planet will nuke them into a dustcloud the size of Siberia, and their Russian friends (who think it hypocritical for nuclear powers to dictate on the dangers of this most terrible of WMDs) will not help them because Iran will have brought it on itself, Iran will have started it, and the allies, friends, and even some political and/or historical enemies of Isreal will finish it.
Logicalm yes?

> Zarf BeebleBrix wrote:
> Alright, look... Iran isn't the hotshot it was a year ago.
Oil prices are falling.  Food prices are rising.  Iran's economy has been dependent in large part on oil, and now oil most recently isn't able to handle the load.
That means one of three things:
1: Iran will focus its funds on keeping the population happy, slowing down its nuclear program.
2: They'll do the opposite, and risk popular overthrow of the government due to lack of economic support.
3: They'll be forced to come to the international community for help.  And guess what the US and EU will want them to shut down in order to get economic assistance. <

4: They'll become totally dependant on Russia for more than military support.

Notice how option 4 means that nothing has to change?

I thoughtn I addressed the post quite well, but if there is something I missed then please feel free to publicly enlighten me.

2) Red Fokker

"It degenerated into th' RP equivalent o' an arms race[...]"
Lol, All Hands Hoay! I have t' remember that

"[...]or do we want it t' have a map an' preset politics an' junk like last time"
Definitely need a map...  []  As fer th' rest I think it all depends on how much freedom we want scallywags t' have.

> Red_Rooster wrote:
> and you say science should be able to answer everything? <

No, and no good scientist would ever say that either, because the nature and circumstances of our existence may well prevent us from discovering the answers to all of the questions no matter how long we keep looking, but the key point here is: We can accept that, you can't.

Or are you referring to stupid "questions of morality" like "If there is no God then why do people do nice things?" because you cannot handle the concept of enlightened self-interest without seeing it as something totally selfish?

>We can't BELIEVE in something like spirit?<

We cannot believe in the Spaghetti Monster, the Dancing Beaver, or the Almighty Whirling Ball of Death, nor can we believe that we are just smart animals, nor can we believe that a "Holy Spirit" can exist in a universe that it did not create, let alone believe that it develop an interest in a world it did not create, so no, no you can't believe in something like spirit.

Which is why no true scientist will claim 100% certainty, hence the term "scientific theory" rather than "scientific fact", a term bandied about by some of our less stable forum members.

> ..Nemeara.. wrote:
> i think it's funny how ppl think science doesnt require faith<

(Not directed at you honey, you just made me think of a point worth raising)
I think it is funny that people who are too lazy to test the theories that they are too stupid to understand think that it must be this way for everyone and then assume that they believe these theories out of faith.