1,001

(56 replies, posted in Politics)

no it wasn't 

i agree with you

we can't stay stuck on hard right positions though

we need to move with the times

OUT : I support the 2nd Amendment

IN:  Social Justice requires social warriors!

1,002

(56 replies, posted in Politics)

I'm sure all the people killed with hammers and knives die thinking "at least I wasn't shot with a .223"

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(56 replies, posted in Politics)

“This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!”  –Adolf Hitler, 1935

Trouble is, Hitler never made such a speech in 1935. Nor is there any record that he ever spoke these particular words at all.  This little “speech” was obviously written for him, many years after his death, by someone who wanted you to believe that gun registration is Hitler-evil.

What he did say, seven years later, was this: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.” So it’s fair to conclude that he believed “gun control” had its uses. But that’s quite a different thing from claiming that “gun control” was instrumental in the NAZI rise to power.

http://propagandaprofessor.net/2011/09/ … s-gun-ban/

Yeah and that's the main point. 
It's not like Hitler thought a gun ban was essential to public intimidation and repression.
Well, he did, but so what you got some dates wrong.

1,004

(16 replies, posted in General)

The sheep said "baaaa" and POOF he was a ram.
The goat said, "baaaa" and POOF he was a ram.
The lawyer said "quick change them back to a sheep and goat" and POOF they were sheep and goat again.
The genie said, "OK dude, what's with messing with their wishes?"   And the lawyer said, "I'm preserving the Rams' draft picks"


Batman, Superman and Doctor Who meet at the United Nations

1,005

(56 replies, posted in Politics)

Sure, why not? You saw how many it took to take down 2 idiots in college.

1,006

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

One of Clark's most debated decisions during his SACEUR command was his attempted operation to attack Russian troops at Pristina International Airport immediately after the end of the Kosovo War. A joint NATO–Russia peacekeeping operation was supposed to police Kosovo.

This is why your teacher knocked points off for the passive voice.
Name the human beings who made that agreement.  You will have a hard time doing that, because Russia thought it should be there, and nobody but the Serbs thought so too.   So "supposed to" confuses this key point, that NATO didn't authorize the Russian troops.

Russia wanted their peacekeeping force to operate independent of NATO, but NATO refused. British forces were supposed to occupy Pristina International Airport, but a contingent of Russian troops arrived before they did and took control of the airport.
Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana, who told him "you have transfer of authority" in the area. General Clark then issued an order for the NATO troops to attack and "overpower" the armed Russian troops, but Captain James Blount leading the British troops questioned this order[81] and was supported in this decision by General Mike Jackson, the British commander of the Kosovo Force.

Absolutely unacceptable.

Jackson refused to sanction the attack, reportedly saying "I'm not going to start the Third World War for you."[82][83] Jackson has said he refused to take action because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military confrontation with the Russians, instead insisting that troops encircle the airfield. After two days of standoff and negotiations, NATO agreed to an independent Russian peacekeeping force, and Russia relinquished control of the airport.

Not his call at all. 

The refusal was criticized by some senior U.S. military personnel, with American general Hugh Shelton calling Jackson's refusal "troubling". During hearings in the United States Senate, Senator John Warner suggested that the refusal might have been illegal, and that if it was legal rules potentially should be changed.[84] British Chief of the Defence Staff Charles Guthrie agreed with Jackson.[85]

Here's another article:

Blunt, who was at the head of a column of 30,000 Nato troops with his unit, told Pienaar's Politics it was a "mad situation".

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That sense of moral judgement is drilled into us as soldiers in the British army”

James Blunt
He said he had been "party to the conversation" between senior officers in which Gen Clark had ordered the attack.

"We had 200 Russians lined up pointing their weapons at us aggressively, which was... and you know we'd been told to reach the airfield and take a hold of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753050

What if it was 20 Russians?  At what point can Russia shove NATO around just by showing up?  We know 200 is enough, and definitely 40,000 in Georgia was enough.  How about 2?  Would 2 Russians in a jeep have the Brits saying "Um, why don't we dig in and starve them out?"

Are you French, Arfeh?  Voulez vous coucher avec moi, Clyde?


ofc Wesley Clark totally choked, too.  If he'd have started bombing or shelling the Russians they'd have broke out through the British perimeter, thereby resolving the situation of not fighting the Russians cause you don't wanna.  Unless of course, he figured you'd surrender.

1,007

(56 replies, posted in Politics)

http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/artic … Id=5100379

1,008

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

esa wrote:

The russians did't help their ally in the Korea war.
They didn't help Egypt in the Yom Kippur war
They didn't help Serbia
They didn't help Libyia

All talk,no action

They did help Serbia at the end, they sent paratroops into the area to keep the Serbian state in power (though they handed over their top guy).   The American general Wesley Clark ordered the Brits to block the runways to keep the Russians out and the Brit refused saying he wasn't going to spark WW3 for Wesley Clark, which was an unparalleled political victory for Moscow over NATO forever.

I mean we expect that from the French, but, sheesh

There's an old old US military joke about a division playing wargames, and this general is out in his jeep and it gets bogged down in mud right in front of some GIs who are loafing under a tree.  And the general says "You men, come shove me out of this mud"  and the GIs say "Sorry sir, we're "killed" and we're out of this exercise"  and the general turns to his driver and says "Sergeant, shove those corpses under the tires for traction" so then they run to shove him out.   That's what I think of when I hear some Brit wants a job in our world police force but then won't do it

1,009

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

speaking as a rightwing nutjob, this Pentagon and this Administration couldn't beat the Taliban, so, why should I support sending troops into Syria under them?

There may be a moral argument for America winning a war in Syria, but there ain't none for losing one.

1,010

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

Read Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"

1,011

(3 replies, posted in Politics)

^ +1

1,012

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

That's silly on several levels

1.  Of course our space weapons would fall out of orbit onto earth, negating any danger of increased orbital degree

2.  All you have to do to solve the space debris problem is accelerate all that junk to escape velocity, such as, throwing heavy particles into the junk from below them.  Which is a fine mission for space weapons

3. hahahaha we bomb on Russia et al and this PLANET will be orbital debris! MUHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

1,013

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

Some of us SAID to weaponize space

Russia can't match that we said

Might come in handy we said

BUT OH NO SPACE IS SPECIAL

1,014

(16 replies, posted in General)

30 naked women yelled "HEY KOOLAID"

Arby and TBO decided to have a tractor drag race on Main Street

1,015

(32 replies, posted in Politics)

this thread sadly shows that people as a whole arent ready to move away from the bedtime stories of god to a structured system based in reality.

Been tried fella

The Christian Churches build upon the ignorance of men and strive to keep large portions of the people in ignorance because only in this way can the Christian Churches maintain their power. On the other hand, national Socialism is based on scientific foundations. Christianity's immutable principles, which were laid down almost two thousand years ago, have increasingly stiffened into life-alien dogmas. National Socialism, however, if it wants to fulfill its task further, must always guide itself according to the newest data of scientific researches. The Christian Churches have long been aware that exact scientific knowledge poses a threat to their existence. Therefore, by means of such pseudo-sciences as theology, they take great pains to suppress or falsify scientific research. Our National Socialist world view stands on a much higher level than the concepts of Christianity, which in their essentials were taken over from Judaism. For this reason, too, we can do without Christianity.  -- Reichsleiter Martin Bormann

1,016

(2 replies, posted in General)

Post them here!

Obey the forum rules!


This one comes from the ceremony at George W. Bush's presidential library opening.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIt58gVCUAIR_fc.jpg:large

No.  I don't have a clue wtf.

1,017

(16 replies, posted in General)

But right of way is sacred to me


Pat and Mike were working on the railroad when the foreman hollered at them to come over

1,018

(3 replies, posted in Politics)

The genetic lineage of Europe mysteriously transformed about 4,500 years ago, new research suggests.
The findings, detailed Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications, were drawn from several skeletons unearthed in central Europe that were up to 7,500 years old.

"What is intriguing is that the genetic markers of this first pan-European culture, which was clearly very successful, were then suddenly replaced around 4,500 years ago, and we don't know why," study co-author Alan Cooper of the University of Adelaide Australian Center for Ancient DNA said in a statement. "Something major happened, and the hunt is now on to find out what that was."

The new study also confirms that people sweeping out from Turkey colonized Europe, likely as a part of the agricultural revolution, reaching Germany about 7,500 years ago.

For decades, researchers have wondered whether people, or just ideas, spread from the Middle East during the agricultural revolution that occurred after the Mesolithic period.

To find out, Cooper and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which resides in the cells' energy-making structures and is passed on through the maternal line, from 37 skeletal remains from Germany and two from Italy; the skeletons belonged to humans who lived in several different cultures that flourished between 7,500 and 2,500 years ago. The team looked at DNA specifically from a certain genetic group, called haplogroup h, which is found widely throughout Europe but is less common in East and Central Asia.

The researchers found that the earliest farmers in Germany were closely related to Near Eastern and Anatolian people, suggesting that the agricultural revolution did indeed bring migrations of people into Europe who replaced early hunter-gatherers.

But that initial influx isn't a major part of Europe's genetic heritage today.
Instead, about 5,000 to 4,000 years ago, the genetic profile changes radically, suggesting that some mysterious event led to a huge turnover in the population that made up Europe.

The Bell Beaker culture, which emerged from the Iberian Peninsula around 2800 B.C., may have played a role in this genetic turnover. The culture, which may have been responsible for erecting some of the megaliths at Stonehenge, is named for its distinctive bell-shaped ceramics and its rich grave goods. The culture also played a role in the expansion of Celtic languages along the coast.

"We have established that the genetic foundations for modern Europe were only established in the Mid-Neolithic, after this major genetic transition around 4,000 years ago," study co-author Wolfgang Haak, also of the Australian Center for Ancient DNA, said in a statement. "This genetic diversity was then modified further by a series of incoming and expanding cultures from Iberia and Eastern Europe through the Late Neolithic."
http://science.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/0 … -ago?lite=

Seems kind of cold, wiping out Middle Eastern immigrants to Eurozone...

1,019

(32 replies, posted in Politics)

American schools don't give enough attention to the founding of the US

yeah they read a lot of French philosphers

They were also very aware that between 1580 and 1666 the United Kingdom had been wracked by alternate Catholic and Protestant rulers, each of which tried to repress Catholics or Protestants.

It became very clear that trying to destroy the losers was not only very very difficult, it was also very risky if they came back to win.  The English had that very problem several times.

To save their own fat asses, when it came time to build a national government in the US, they decided not to regulate religion at all. 

You can get 99/100 people willing to keep quiet about religion, and 1 guy yells out "Jesus saves", and where are you?  You might as well have had 50 doing it.

1,020

(32 replies, posted in Politics)

And, I am sure you would feel that society was making it mandatory to be Muslim if you lived in a Muslim country where Islam was casually expressed and exercised at work. That's how atheists feel in the U.S... that it's mandatory to be Christian, at least if you want to be treated as human and assessed on the basis of your merits.

Despite your dissembling, it's clear you actually intended what Alundra and Zarf inferred from your orginal post - you object to the open expression of religion. 

*I'm sorry that was rude what I posted.

I meant to post this"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGNAZivnc2w

Samurai sword-wielding Mormon bishop comes to aid of woman being attacked
Published April 23, 2013Associated Press

April 23, 2013: Kent Hendrix, 47, draws his sword near his house in Salt Lake City. Hendrix, a Samurai sword-wielding Mormon bishop came to the aid of a woman who was being attacked in front of his house. (AP)
SALT LAKE CITY –  A Samurai sword-wielding Mormon bishop helped a neighbor woman escape a Tuesday morning attack by a man who had been stalking her.

Kent Hendrix woke up Tuesday to his teenage son pounding on his bedroom door and telling him somebody was being mugged in front of their house. The 47-year-old father of six rushed out the door and grabbed the weapon closest to him -- a 29-inch high carbon steel Samurai sword.

He came upon what he describes as a melee between a woman and a man. His son stayed inside to call 911 while he approached the man along with other neighbors who came to help. The martial arts instructor didn't hesitate in drawing the sword and yelling at him to get on the ground.

"His eyes got as big as saucers and he kind of gasped and jumped back," Hendrix said by phone Tuesday afternoon. "He's probably never had anyone draw a sword on him before."

The man ran down the street with the barefoot Hendrix and others in pursuit. Hendrix said he couldn't catch the man before he fled in his car, but he picked up ChapStick that the man dropped and memorized his license plate.

"I yelled at him, `I've got your DNA and I've got your license plate: You are so done,"' Hendrix said.

The suspect, 37-year-old Grant Eggersten, turned himself in to police an hour later, said Unified Police Lt. Justin Hoyal. He was booked on charges of robbery, attempted burglary, trespassing and violation of a stalking injunction.

Hendrix, a pharmaceutical statistician, was one of several neighbors who came to the woman's aid after she began yelling for help, Hoyal said.

The incident began just after 7 a.m. when the 35-year-old woman came out of her front door, Hoyal said. Eggersten was hiding behind her carport and attacked her, knocking her to the ground, Hoyal said.

He took her keys and tried to open the door into her house, Hoyal said. That's when the woman ran down the street calling for help.

The woman did the right thing by fighting back and calling for help, Hoyal said. She suffered minor injuries.

Hendrix, a bishop in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said it was the first time in 30 years of practicing martial arts that he's used the sword. He didn't swing it at the man, only showing him he had it.

He said he's proud of his 14-year-old son for alerting him and quickly calling 911. He said the family is still abuzz about the events.

"That kind of thing doesn't happen every day," Hendrix said. "Our neighborhood is a pretty quiet place."

A fourth-degree black belt in the Kishindo form of martial arts, Hendrix owns a collection of swords and weapons that he trains with, said his wife, Suzanne Hendrix. He has trained with the sword he used Tuesday for 20 years and keeps it by his bed.

"Some people have bats they go to," said Hendrix. "I have my sword."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/sa … z2RLlkfPXl

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(58 replies, posted in Politics)

Whatever.  You go back and read the last dozen threads with Kemp, read everything he said, and then come back.

I did, I really did read what he said.   Saying several different times there was no domestic threat from AQ, that there had been LITERALLY no attacks since 9/11, saying all the attempts didn't count...I said that was wrong before somebody bombed the marathon and I was attacked as a sheeple who was stampeded by the warmongers.

Yes I oversimplify, when you base two thousand words of argument that I'm a sheeple on a lie, I'm going straight to that lie.

1,023

(4 replies, posted in Politics)

AMSTERDAM: A song specially written to be sung by the nation to the Netherlands' new king on the day of his inauguration has been "withdrawn" by its producer after it triggered a storm of online criticism and ridicule, a government committee confirmed Sunday.

The song that was supposed to unite a nation behind its new monarch instead had the effect of dividing it into two camps; those who hated the song and those who loved it.

An online petition against the song, which was written using suggestions from the public and features a blend of Dutch rock ballad and rap styles, had been signed by more than 30,000 people Sunday. But the song clearly also had its fans as it was ranked No. 1 on the Dutch iTunes chart.

Most complaints focused on the quality of the lyrics, saying that the idea of writing a song based on suggestions from the public was a recipe for disaster.

The song features lines such as: "I'll build a dike with my bare hands/And keep the water away from you," fitting both for this flood-prone low-lying nation and the future King Willem-Alexander, who is an expert in water management.

The lyrics also urge people to raise three fingers — forming the W of Willem — while singing.

Producer John Ewbank said on his Facebook page late Saturday that he was scrapping the song after being subjected to a torrent of online abuse since its official launch Friday.

The national committee coordinating celebrations for the April 30 inauguration said in a statement emailed to The Associated Press it "regrets the situation" but understands Ewbank's decision.

The committee said it still wants the nation to sing to its new monarch on the evening of his investiture and is looking for alternatives to the "King's Song." (AFP)
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-97777 … nline-fire

well that leaves you in the lurch

may I humbly suggest "Our New Dutch King" sung to the tune of "My Dingaling"

Our new Dutch King
Our new Dutch King
I wanna play with
Our new Dutch King

1,024

(37 replies, posted in Politics)

Xeno wrote:

Seriously.  I challenge anyone to name one thing that you think is 'civil' about civilization.


I turn my back on everybody else in line, and live

1,025

(16 replies, posted in Politics)

apparently Japan will pay $3 million to hear a US president tell them how awesome it is to be a US president