rofl

So when allies needed help (yes, Devilz asked for help), and i jumped fleet to help them to hit the same fam, you accused me of wanting to steal their gains and farming them.  And now when you've taken 50+ planets off them in 24hrs, it's okay, and not farming?

Hypocrite much?

Ah well, gotta get those 350 planets somehow.  I mean, why give up your own built up planets, amirite?

but all your generals died in that last laser trap you hit

lol, gotta love the "it's just one attacker" argument.

I mean, it's not as if he's SS and acting on his own

lol

Yep, known. 

It's on the list!

Yep!

Including distance into something like this, starts making it different to everyone.  You're giving an advantage to those who choose allies closer to themselves (this is in early explo phase), as opposed to those who might be spread far apart.

Anyway, I think theres a few things here, each to be treated as its own thing, for eg:
Allies as extended family - should we even be able to send aid to them?  This is probably the discussion that needs to happen first, before the mechanics of how to get aid to them.

Good, cos 2 wrongs make a right, Sir.

I thought the condition of your unning this Mafia was for you t o not use any of these medical and w/e excuses you normally do?

Why?

We can trade with other empires in the universe instantly via the Market.

I'm sure trading with our allies can be done instantly too.  With a Fee, ofcourse.

Sigh, I was hoping I wouldn't have to get into this for your sake.   But alas, now you have to go and libel.

For everyone who wants to know how it went down, it was like this:

• All round I'd been patching things up with other fams and Lee and even players in our own fam.  Hell, we even almost lost 1 of our 2 bankers at round start.

• More recently, Lee says he wants to cancel soon on another alliance.  I tell him I can't war this week because I'm busy.

• Lee proceeds to cancel only on Hydro? Then a wrong fam? (which he renapped) for a 1v2.  Then makes some excuse to some people about dropping 84? lol

• I login and realise, and I told him "gl in the war, I told you I can't fight"

• Next login, he's renapped and god knows whats going on.

• Future login, I come into chat and allies and a fam member are saying they need help with a fam.

• I msg DDK and HOokers to see what's going on.  DDK says he doesn't care cos his own fam renegged on a deal he made so do whatever you want but to leave him alone.

• I decide to step in and help our allies.

• I use like 4-5 ticks of gc, and 10 ticks of iron to jump a lil fleet (yes, have had like 5k droids up until this point) to help out.

• Devilz even asked to help Banker raid, but I said I wouldn't do that.  I don't farm people.

• Lee logs in and totally flips out with comments like "cancel the fleet, or i'm gone", "i'm the leader so all fleet building goes through me" and "my decision is final".  Not to mention he thought I was doing it to steal war gains off our allies, lol.

• Anyway, I had enough.  Told him he has every right to lead the way he wants, since we all vote for him as leader.  I just didn't want to play like that, so I gave up my planets and left.

• 72/82 Cancelled and Lee pays 350 planets (lol) to re-nap.

• End of Story, make up your own minds!

Sure! Closed!