wait they executed a woman for a pickaxe murder last decade so it must just be the first in a few years
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wait they executed a woman for a pickaxe murder last decade so it must just be the first in a few years
Some of you may wonder why I of all people promote this
whatever you thought of the prudence of the Bush wars, they were acts of state based on legalisms
Old man Bush went into Iraq in 1991 to restore Kuwait, a member nation of the UN who was obliterated by Iraqi conquest
that war ended with a conditional armistice
Bush, Clinton and W Bush argued continually that Saddam broke the armistice
W Bush argued the penalty for violating an armistice and shooting at aircraft was renewed war
Throughout the US Congress voted to approve their logic
they continually got authorization
It was an act of State and all parties in America shared in the choice to begin and continue the conflict.
What Obama is doing is acting like Supreme Warlord, and relying on bizarre American tribal law that says he can wage war anywhere on anyone for as long as he likes and it is the Congress that has to jump through hoops to stop the war.
This is contrary to international law, the laws that sent Jodl and Von Ribbentrop to the gallows at Nurnberg.
Syria is nothing in and of itself. It is the first step and we can stop this thing here before it explodes.
In America it is dirty and rude and crazy to talk about consequences and precedents. It is the "slippery slope fallacy". People have to be "realistic". They have to defer to corrupt leaders and talk about how things failed in the past, how they won't work in the future, is disrespectful and "divisive". People are supposed to be "reasonable"-- they are supposed to have a price and sell out for it. There is no such thing as "duty" for politicians.
This sloppy warmongering will continue and there will not be any checks on it from the American political system.
It is up to the rest of you
In 1973 the War Powers Act said the President could order military operations anywhere for 90 days then he has to ask Congress for authorization
In 1999 Bill Clinton started bombing Serbia, went over 90 days and never asked Congress for a vote
House Republicans sued in US federal court to make him stop
US court said the Congress could vote to stop him if it wanted
Democrats controlled the Senate and refused to vote.
Under US law the President can wage war on any country as long as he likes until and unless both chambers of Congress order him to stop
However under German law it was legal for the Fuhrer to invade anybody he liked, and that argument didn't sell at Nuremburg
United States Government recognizes Bashar Assad as government of Syria
United States Government does not recognize anybody else as the government of Syria
UN hasn't called for military operations against Syria
Syria hasn't violated an armistice it got in the last war justifying renewed war on Syria
Nobody is invoking an existing treaty demanding US war on Syria
We're not invited to help defend any government from Syria
We're not defending any recognized government against Assad
US Congress hasn't voted to approved military operations on Syria
Barack Obama is misusing the resources of the United States of America to wage a pirate war against a recognized government
Barack Obama, John McCain and their supporters are guilty of crimes against peace and waging a war of aggression
please arrest them
eff you all
you know more Americans in jail is the way to go
When the collapse comes I won't even notice
I'll be too busy eating chili con carne & sour cream with Fritos
I think the Russians, the Chinese and Al Qaeda have worse intentions for the bulk of the American population than our own government
That's in the ZIA manual too, anything u kan imagine they have it kovered
oh sure
but we wouldn't get the blame for it
like David Carradine
unless he dies by hanging while masturbating in a closet
I don't know most goat marrying, goat banging falls under bestiality. With the current laws stipulating marriage between man and woman, man and man, then woman and woman, doesn't say anything about Man and Beast, Woman and beast, or beast and beast, or even two beasts not of the same species, other than those of the human species.
Those yahoos on the Court have said:
Gay marriage is against the law
gay marriage is against the law for reasons related to religious values
Not everybody has to share religious values
therefore not everybody has to agree with the law
but most people share those values
so it is really religious oppression to outlaw gay marriage
judges can see through that
judges should be able to overturn laws against gay marriage.
With that logic there's no foundation to deny bestiality or polygamy.
I'm taking this one with a big fat grain of salt. The reporter doesn't quote any prosecutorial source. There's no explanation why his folks didn't seek bail for their son. Even if I thought the US Attorney was a nut who wanted to throw the book at him that doesn't explain why the judge feels locking him up is a good idea. For all I know he has an altar to Satan in his room and they found a recipe for raw hearts on his computer.
I liked that argument the first time I heard it
when people said we were nuts and decriminalizing sodomy had nothing to do with gay marriage.
Read the gay marriage decisions. Your dislike of goat banging is based on a narrow religious tradition which cannot be the basis for law in a diverse secular society. There is no valid public goal served by arbitrarily banning goat banging. Therefore laws against it must be void regardless of what the majority think. The fact that a majority refuse to legalize goat marriage is proof of the unfairness of the burden suffered by the goat marriers.
As Scalia said in 2003:
One of the benefits of leaving regulation of this matter to the people rather than to the courts is that the people, unlike judges, need not carry things to their logical conclusion. The people may feel that their disapprobation of homosexual conduct is strong enough to disallow homosexual marriage, but not strong enough to criminalize private homosexual acts--and may legislate accordingly. The Court today pretends that it possesses a similar freedom of action, so that that we need not fear judicial imposition of homosexual marriage, as has recently occurred in Canada (in a decision that the Canadian Government has chosen not to appeal). See Halpern v. Toronto, 2003 WL 34950 (Ontario Ct. App.); Cohen, Dozens in Canada Follow Gay Couple's Lead, Washington Post, June 12, 2003, p. A25. At the end of its opinion--after having laid waste the foundations of our rational-basis jurisprudence--the Court says that the present case "does not involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter." Ante, at 17. Do not believe it. More illuminating than this bald, unreasoned disclaimer is the progression of thought displayed by an earlier passage in the Court's opinion, which notes the constitutional protections afforded to "personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, child rearing, and education," and then declares that "[p]ersons in a homosexual relationship may seek autonomy for these purposes, just as heterosexual persons do." Ante, at 13 (emphasis added). Today's opinion dismantles the structure of constitutional law that has permitted a distinction to be made between heterosexual and homosexual unions, insofar as formal recognition in marriage is concerned. If moral disapprobation of homosexual conduct is "no legitimate state interest" for purposes of proscribing that conduct, ante, at 18; and if, as the Court coos (casting aside all pretense of neutrality), "[w]hen sexuality finds overt expression in intimate conduct with another person, the conduct can be but one element in a personal bond that is more enduring," ante, at 6; what justification could there possibly be for denying the benefits of marriage to homosexual couples exercising "[t]he liberty protected by the Constitution," ibid.? Surely not the encouragement of procreation, since the sterile and the elderly are allowed to marry. This case "does not involve" the issue of homosexual marriage only if one entertains the belief that principle and logic have nothing to do with the decisions of this Court. Many will hope that, as the Court comfortingly assures us, this is so.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/g … 2#dissent1
Views which among the Left were ridiculed. I don't (and won't) subscribe to the Nation to get their article, here's one from Yale:
The ruling and the opinion are remarkable, but it is Justice Antonin Scalia's biting, sarcastic dissent that has drawn keen attention. Even for an impassioned disagreement, his tone seems to breach the bounds of decorum.
...In the Lawrence case, Scalia fearlessly dishes out anger and accusation while making some scary predictions. Writing for himself, and for Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justice Clarence Thomas, Scalia charges that the majority "has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda" and "taken sides in the culture war." The ruling, he warns, entails "a massive disruption of the current social order." It effectively calls for "the end of all morals legislation" against "bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity," he writes.
...In addition to being condescending and sometimes mean, Scalia's Lawrence dissent is unmistakably antagonistic. It's written with contempt for what Scalia views as the logical contradictions and legal fallacies of the Kennedy opinion. It's hard not to see it as personal: Kennedy, the object of his scorn in the Texas case, was also a co-author -- with Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter -- of the Casey opinion.
...Scalia is considered an intellectual leader of the court he has served on since 1986, but his stance as a dissenter seems anti-institutional and self-defeating. How could he persuade Kennedy or other justices to adopt his point of view in a subsequent case? With judicial temperament a bipartisan standard for judging judges, how could he burst into tantrums so injudiciously? And what about the impact on the Supreme Court: Don't his dissents undermine its authority? Isn't it time for him to bite his tongue?
http://www.law.yale.edu/news/4615.htm
These judges on the Supreme Court insist they can overturn a law that has "no valid purpose". The fact that a solid majority have, and always have had throughout US history, is not only no defense of the law, it is evidence of the pernicious malice behind the law.
You imagine goat marriage is bad and ridiculous.
You have no authority to say so.
what happened in Australia? I hear Julia Gillard gave an angry woman speech denouncing buttinsky men and their denial of abortion, and that got her bounced in favor of the usual suspect Kevin Rudd. Is that far off?
riiiiight
his death will really be an accident...
There is no AI
its arsbury playing by mail
Key, are you saying you can confirm Snowden's revelations for $20,000 from the National Enquirer?
Need an agent?
that's it
you're through in musical theater!
the federal court in Perry v Schwarzenegger said gays have the right to the cultural oomph of marriage.
Dumping marriage so everybody is equally unmarried is bigotry against gays! they want the white dress and sunshine!
? Key made sense to me, though I think Snowden is a traitor. But Snowden can't unknow all he knows, so, Russia will want to milk him for years. America wants him in jail. He can't ever sit on the beach and sip coladas all day in peace.
yeah she's been married to Neil Kinnock's son since 1996 and they have 2 kids
he lives in Davos and works for the World Economic Forum
so you need a few billion to get ahead of him
"In my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody there, but that's how I was raised and that's how I think it should be, between a man and a woman," she said to boos and applause at the pageant on April 19, 2009.
Celebrity blogger Hilton did take offense and went on the attack, calling Prejean a "dumb b----." He later apologized, offering to take Prejean out for coffee and a "talk."
"I was floored," Hilton told ABCNews.com the day after the pageant. "I haven't said this before, but to her credit, I applaud her for her honesty. However, she is not a politician, she's a hopeful Miss USA. Miss USA should represent everyone. Her answer alienated millions of gay and lesbian Americans, their families and their supporters."
Prejean was chosen runner-up, while Miss North Carolina, Kristen Dalton, took the title.
"She lost it because of that question. She was definitely the frontrunner before that," Hilton said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/car … cya6zvWaSo
WASHINGTON -- A leading opponent of the effort to legalize same-sex marriage in Maryland used a high-profile congressional hearing Tuesday to allege that the Internal Revenue Service leaked a list of its donors to an adversarial group just as it was mounting a campaign to put gay marriage on the ballot.
John C. Eastman, chairman of the National Organization for Marriage, told the House Ways and Means Committee that the disclosure of its tax records last year may have chilled potential donors. He called on lawmakers to investigate how the documents became public.
"You can imagine our shock and disgust over this," said Eastman, a law professor at Chapman University in California. "We jealously guard our donors as almost every other nonprofit does, particularly on the issues that we deal with, which are so contentious."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 … 88357.html
SACRAMENTO — The artistic director of the California Musical Theater, a major nonprofit producing company here in the state’s capital, resigned on Wednesday in the face of growing outrage over his support for a ballot measure this month that outlawed same-sex marriage in California.
The Sacramento Bee
Scott Eckern.
Related
Mormon Church Draws Protest Over Marriage Act (November 9, 2008)Bans in 3 States on Gay Marriage (November 6, 2008)
(November 6, 2008)
The artistic director, Scott Eckern, came under fire recently after it became known that he contributed $1,000 to support Proposition 8, which amended the state Constitution to recognize only male-female marriages. The measure was approved by 52 percent of California voters on Election Day. (Same-sex marriages had been performed in California since June.)
In a statement issued on Wednesday morning, Mr. Eckern said that his donation stemmed from his religious beliefs — he is a Mormon — and that he was “deeply saddened that my personal beliefs and convictions have offended others.”
His donation was brought to light by online activists angry about the measure’s success at the polls.
“I understand that my choice of supporting Proposition 8 has been the cause of many hurt feelings, maybe even betrayal,” Mr. Eckern said. “It was not my intent. I honestly had no idea that this would be the reaction.”
But the swift resignation was not met with cheers by those on either side.
Marc Shaiman, the Tony Award-winning composer (“Hairspray”), called Mr. Eckern last week and said that he would not let his work be performed in the theater. “I was uncomfortable with money made off my work being used to put discrimination in the Constitution,” Mr. Shaiman said. He added, however, that the entire episode left him “deeply troubled” because of the potential for backlash against gays who protested Mr. Eckern’s donation.
“It will not help our cause because we will be branded exactly as what we were trying to fight,” said Mr. Shaiman, who is gay. “But I do believe there comes a time when you cannot sit back and accept what I think is the most dangerous form of bigotry.”
Supporters of the marriage ban said that critics of Mr. Eckern were attacking freedom of expression, and they chastised the theater’s board for subjecting Mr. Eckern to a political litmus test.
“No matter your opinion on Prop. 8, we should all agree that it is wrong to intimidate or harass anyone for exercising their constitutional rights,” said a letter to the theater’s board president on Tuesday by Frank Schubert, campaign manager for Protect Marriage, the leading group behind the ballot measure.
For its part, the theater disavowed Mr. Eckern’s donation and issued only a brief statement on Wednesday accepting his resignation, while emphasizing that it would not “impinge on the rights of its employees to engage in political activities.” A longtime employee, Mr. Eckern had been artistic director since 2002.
The outrage over Mr. Eckern and the subsequent dismay voiced by Mr. Shaiman are the most recent evidence of the tension running through the entertainment industry since Election Day, particularly in California.
http://theater.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/t … .html?_r=0
Oh sure it will not affect you. As long as you have the right attitude.
is there a transcript?
Well as silly as Obama is, Biden is worse.
Mr. President, thank you for that welcome. It was a delight to have you in Washington and at the White House. And it’s a great honor -- and I might add, a privilege -- to be able to address such an esteemed body. I served in a parliament that only had 535 members total. This is even a greater honor.
...As you already know, ladies and gentlemen, not only am I pleased to be back here in Brussels for the second time as Vice President -- as you probably know, some American politicians and American journalists refer to Washington, DC as the “capital of the free world.” But it seems to me that this great city, which boasts 1,000 years of history and which serves as the capital of Belgium, the home of the European Union, and the headquarters for NATO, this city has its own legitimate claim to that title.
As a lawmaker for more than 36 years in our Parliament, I feel particularly honored to address the European Parliament. President Obama and I were the first running mates in the last 50 years in America to make it to the White House from our legislative bodies. So we both come to our executive jobs with a deep appreciation for the work you do here in the bastion of European democracy.Together with my former colleagues in the United States Congress, you and I represent more than 800 million people. Stop and think about that for a moment: two elected bodies that shape the laws for almost one-eighth of the planet’s population. That’s truly remarkable.
At this point there was an intermission while the members got dry shoes and socks.
Let me state it as plainly as I can: The Obama-Biden administration has no doubt about the need for and strongly supports a vibrant European Union. We believe it’s absolutely essential to American prosperity and long-term security. So have no doubt about that.
Uh oh. Swap your euros for gold.
Folks, 65 years ago this week, less than 200 kilometers south of here, Nazi leaders signed an unconditional surrender that brought an end to the Second World War in Europe.
Bet you folks didn't know that!
On that joyous day -- May 8, 1945 -- this continent lay in ruins, ravaged twice by total wars in less than 30 years.
Everyone was smiling and laughing, dancing in the rubble.
As President Obama said in Prague a little more than a year ago, a strong Europe makes a stronger partner for the United States, and we need strong partners. That is why we will do everything we can to support this great endeavor of yours. Because the past 65 years have shown that when Americans and Europeans devote their energies to common purpose, there is almost nothing we are unable to accomplish.
Yeah like ravaging the place twice in 30 years and leaving it in ruins.
Oh wait, he said in the postwar era! He's referring to our limitless achievements of the postwar era. Like...um...
I can think of stuff WE did, and I can think of stuff YOU did, but jointly, we...um...well no that was Gorbachev just giving up...
To those skeptics who, in spite of all these accomplishments, continue to question the state of transatlantic relationships or my country’s attitude toward a united Europe, my answer is this: Even if the United States and the nations all of you represent were not united by shared values and common heritage of many millions of our citizens, myself included, our global interests alone would inexorably bind us together.
Well it's lucky we're all democratic and free, because even if you were still under the Nazi boot, we couldn't say no to the money!
The relationship between my country and Europe is today as strong, and as important, as all of us -- to all of us as it has ever been.
Kiss of death, I'm telling you. Ask Hamid Karzai how important a strong relationship is to Obama.
youre a german bimmelbammel
we're supposed to spy on you
OK go to the back munchkin! I want my Fritos
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