676

(61 replies, posted in Politics)

I don't know if its appropriate to call myself an atheist or agnostic. I reject every theist hypothesis, but I am not certain they are false. Some say that's agnostic, while others say it's atheist because I am rejecting the hypothesis. Meanwhile, others say that 'atheist' is confused with 'anti-theist,' and that I would be an agnostic atheist. lol

677

(64 replies, posted in Politics)

> V.Kemp wrote:

The idea that morality is make-believe is a silly and naive. Human history and psychology both just called you stupid.>

I am well aware of feeble human attempts to justify moral realism, but they have all failed. As for psychology, I am not sure what you're getting at. Our impulses to care and reciprocate? I'm not denying they exist. But if you are arguing that they are evidence for morality, then you are confused.

678

(64 replies, posted in Politics)

Yell,

Abortion is not evil, because the concept of god and morality are make believe. Though there is sometimes peace, it is bought with fear and blood.

We can talk about desires and evidence without appealing to fantasy, and I desire cheap sex and freedom. If the price is a human in the microscopic stage of development, then such a price is irrelevant to me. I'm willing to compromise on late-term abortions and such, but if you want to impose your fictitious beliefs on me and take away contraception and abortion completely, then it's war.

That said, I agree that imposing these services on religious institutions violates religious freedom and is stupid. Although I'm a secularist, I don't stand for policies that only serve to provoke the religious right and offer little gain, like this one. In fact, I am in favor of letting religious groups enjoy semi-sovereignty. Let them have their religious utopia, even let them punish to a certain degree. That way the secular majority can enjoy freedom and cheap sex, and the loonies will go away and live their religious utopia. We shall only interact with one another in commerce, or, should the times call for it, united in arms against in defense of our nation.

679

(10 replies, posted in Politics)

Here's how I see it.

If Romney wins the nomination, I will not vote because it will be politics as usual no matter who wins the election. If Santorum wins, I will seriously register to vote, and I will vote for Obama. I will not stand by and let a social conservative win, no matter the cost.

680

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

Flint,

Here are claims of yours with truth:

1. He has pacified the majority of his political competitors.
2. He has stonewalled actions against Iran.

-Of course he has. He's a political realist, and what realist at the helm of Russia wouldn't aim to frustrate US dominance in the Middle East?

Claims that are false or mostly false:

1. The mafia decided to be less violent because cyber crime is more profitable.

- Cyber crime is irrelevant. The fact is that the Russian state now enforces business contracts because it has the funds to operate, and police do not usually demand bribes because they are now adequately paid.

2. The unemployment in Russia is absurdly high, especially for young people.

- According to the CIA fact book, Russia's unemployment in 2011 was 6.8%, It experienced an increase in unemployment in 2009, but that wasn't unusual around the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html

-Additionally, the CIA fact book confirms that Russia's PPP is growing, and that Russia enjoyed an economic recovery under Putin's government.

3. Increased porn production indicates how bad the Russian economy is.

-Since when does a poor economy correlate with porn production? The same argument could be made for a growing economy. Additionally, porn profits have declined since the recession.

4. Putin bombarded Kosovo with artillery.

-I think you are confusing Kosovo with Chechnya. I am surprised you are complaining about his invasion of Chechnya, considering they rebelled under Yeltsin, Yeltsin invaded them, and radical Islam is popular there.

5. He invaded Georgia.

-This is true, but you are implying a good vs evil polarity that didn't exist. In politics, everyone is evil. There are no good people. Everyone's first concern is power and political survival. The fact is that Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili decided to take a risky political gamble in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Those regions of the country were pro-Russian and traditionally resisted the central government, and he wanted to bolster his political support and calm the many protests happening in the country by establishing control in those regions. Of course, this provoked Russia, who came to their defense.

6. He is hard-balling Europe with his country's natural gas and oil reserves.

-The only example of this I can think of is when he cut gas to the Ukraine. However, this was because Tymoshenko, the Prime Minister of the Ukraine, was being provocative and aggressive with Russia. She wanted to sever traditional ties, and even join NATO. For obvious reasons, Putin couldn't allow this. So he cut gas, damaged her political support, and bolstered Yanukovych support as an 'experienced' politician. If anything, this is an example of US expansionism, not Russian expansionism.

681

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

Paul,

I am afraid you are confused. Since Putin became President, Russia's economy has significantly improved.

First, allow me to detail what happened under the Yeltsin years.

1. Yeltsin inherited a declining economy that could barely pay for the state's expenses, and his rapid transition to a market economy made the economy worse, for a time.

2. Corruption was rampant because of poverty, underfunded public services, a lack of transparency, and the government's desperation to pay state expenses. Firstly, Yeltsin's privatization schemes such as the one that issued stock vouchers to Russian citizens benefited wealthy individuals. Rather than buy stock, the mass of desperate Russians illegally sold them to wealthy individuals for cash. This made wealthy individuals wealthier, as they were able to purchase state assets for less than their worth. Secondly, there was little transparency. This allowed political insiders to enjoy unfair competitive advantages. Thirdly, the criminal justice system was underfunded. This caused police to demand bribes, and businesses had to rely on the mafia to enforce their business contracts. Finally, Yeltsin was compelled to hasten privatization by exchanging state assets for money to add to the state budget, and the money the government received was usually much less than the market value of those assets.

3. Political power fragmented. Firstly, Yeltsin and Parliament issued contradictory orders, which caused governors to cherry pick sides. This escalated in to the 1993 coup. Even after the new constitution had made the president in to a 'super president,' Yeltsin was still forced to make concessions to economic and political elites. For example, he promised the governors "all the autonomy you can swallow" in the 1996 elections. Secondly, governors pushed the limits of their autonomy. For example, some issued their own passports and currency. At the extreme, Chechnya seceded. Unable to tolerate the political liability that Chechnya posed, Yeltsin was forced to send inexperienced conscripts to crush the rebellion after the professional military units refused to participate.

In summary, the Yeltsin regime was usually desperate for money to pay for the state's budget, and the concessions it was forced to make made it weak and dependent on political and economic elites.

But Putin changed all that. He has:

1. Restored the vertical balance of power.
2. Balanced the budget and instituted a flat tax.
3. Eliminated low level corruption. Police no longer demand bribes, and the state's monopoly on enforcing business contracts has been restored.
4. Significantly grew the economy. Nominal GDP more than doubled under Putin's presidency, average salaries increased from $80 to $640, the middle class grew from 8 million to 55 million people, and poverty fell to 14% from 30%.
5. Crushed the Chechnya rebellion.

Now it's true that Putin's regime is authoritarian. He has dealt with oligarchs who have misbehaved, and replaced them with professional colleagues he trusts. It's not hard for him to do, since every oligarch is guilty of tax evasion. Those who misbehave receive selective justice. Secondly, Putin isn't afraid to control the legislature with material incentives. Someone in the legislature who misbehaves may notice that their Moscow apartment or salary is withdrawn. Thirdly, Putin has shown a willingness to assassinate his most irritating opponents, rig elections, and use force to put down a demonstration.

However, unlike the totalitarian regime of Stalin or the weak regimes of Khrushchev, Gorbachev, or Yeltsin, the character of Putin's regime is moderate and closer to czarist Russia. Putin is like a referee to the elite. He settles their disputes, and maintains the balance of power between them by manipulating them to compete for his favor.

Now that I clarified the historical, economic, and political facts of Russia, it seems that you are confused about a few other important things. The first is strong leadership and Stalinist-style brute force. Stalin was foolish and would have suffered a coup, had it not been for Hitler's depopulation efforts during the invasion of the USSR. The second is the circumstances under which democracy is possible. You seem to think it's possible to create a liberal democracy by simply organizing the government that way. Well, that is not how things work. The political and economic climate determines the possibilities of government a state will have. It's possible that developments in Russia are moving towards a democracy in the decades ahead, but forgive my skepticism about the practicality of liberal democracy in the present. Without an individual strong enough to serve as a referee between the elite, they will fight like rats in the sack. Also, you are confused about the infighting that happened in 2007-2008. The infighting was between factions all ready supporting Putin. It was not a scheme to identify or purge his enemies, lol.

Finally, you have unfairly judged Putin. He can not be compared to dictatorships like North Korea. Putin has not depressed economic development or created a command economy to increase his control or buy the loyalty of his supporters like the majority of dictators tend to do. Neither has Putin assumed totalitarian control of the media. While it's monitored and guided to serve his objectives, it's much more free than other authoritarian regimes. Articles and political cartoons critical of Putin are occasionally circulated with little backlash from Putin's government. Moreover, Putin participates in press conferences, and although he restricts the journalists who are permitted, only some topics are completely censored (like Chechnya). Additionally, one way he deals with critical journalists in press conferences is to call on supportive or moderate journalists to either provide comical relief or change the subject. In totality, Putin has governed moderately and has been much more consistent with liberal principles than other authoritarian leaders.

682

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

Russia can not have a democratic political system. The power coalition is too small, and without a strong leader its elite will tear each other apart. Consider the infighting between competing factions before Putin designated Medvedev as his successor.

683

(71 replies, posted in Politics)

Flint,

1. The demand for drugs is largely inelastic due to addiction. So causing the price of drugs to increase by eradicating suppliers is ineffective, and only leads to an increase in drug crime. When those addicts can't pay for their addiction, they will get inventive.

2. On sexuality, men are less elastic than women. Moreover, women face higher risks for sexuality. This makes sexuality a market, whereby women are suppliers and men are consumers. If you increase the costs of sexuality by eliminating planned parenthood, or even banning/limiting abortion and contraception, then women will exit the market. This will increase the price of sex and cause more men to seek substitutes, including prostitutes and sluts. With fewer women supplying the same quantity demanded, the increase in STI infections will explode. Keeping sex cheap not only makes everyone happy, but it reduces the number of STI infections.

To support my point, CDC records show that Bush's abstinence only education caused a significant number of teen girls to exit the sex market, but it had a marginal effect on teen boys. Moreover, the number of teen girls who had more than 3 partners a year also increased. In other words, the increase in price due to sellers leaving the market had little affect on the quantity demanded, and this increased the demand for risky sex.

So keep abortion and contraception legal, and their services affordable and available to the poor.

684

(7 replies, posted in Politics)

National Defense wins. I will no longer post on forums.

685

(17 replies, posted in Politics)

The only post from BW that I see is the one posted in 2008 from a thread someone bumped.

686

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

Democrats trying to destroy the Bill of Rights? I think you are confused.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghuis_v._Thompkins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

687

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

Lets just suspend the constitution and elect David Petraeus to be our absolute monarch. It's not like the constitution matters anymore anyway.

688

(119 replies, posted in Politics)

The Qin dynasty was awesome. It's unfortunate the Emperor was a superstitious nut.

689

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

Zarf,

Oh I see then. Well you kind of got me. Although, there are things he can do. He can demand considerable concessions in exchange for signing legislation. Based on their previous behavior, I wouldn't put it past social conservatives to hold the country hostage in order to coerce democrats in to signing socially conservative concessions. They successfully passed legislation to discontinue funding Planned Parenthood. That was bad enough, and they will have much more leverage with the president on their side.

690

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

Zarf/MedicineMan

I have doubts that he would get such legislation passed unless social conservatives far exceed my expectations in the 2012 elections. However, there is nothing unreasonable about refusing to support someone based on their extremist views. I doubt either of you would criticize someone for refusing to vote for a racist.

Noir,

LMAO. That is similar to Michele Bachmann's statement that social conservatism (banning abortion etc) is fiscal conservatism. Being a fiscal conservative myself, although a social liberal (in US practice ofc), I had one of my longest lolz after hearing that.

This is why I hate US politics. I am starting to support burning the constitution in favor of parliamentary democracy. It's miraculous our Presidential system functioned as long as it did.

691

(40 replies, posted in Politics)

Rick Santoroum... he's an extremist social conservative who wants to outlaw contraception. Are you nuts?

692

(12 replies, posted in Politics)

> Noir wrote:

> I love how he calls anti war people for dirtbags lol>

I think you're confusing him with someone else. Ron Paul is anti-war. He's explicitly spoken out against US military intervention, and stated that Muslim extremists aren't resorting to terrorism because they hate our freedoms. Rather, he stated it's because "we're over there."

The guy is rather quotable and intelligent. However, he's a lunatic and an idealist. When he speaks about Economics, it's clear his ideas come straight from a textbook on Austrian Economics. I also read reports that he has pictures of Hayek and Mises in his congressional office. Additionally, he is very extreme on non-intervention. I agree that US foreign policy has been far too aggressive, but there are cases where intervention is necessary. My belief is that we should not engage in aggression unilaterally, but should not hesitate to do so when our Western allies are fully committed to the military effort.

693

(9 replies, posted in Politics)

In most jurisdictions, prospects for jury duty are selected from the voter register. So by not registering, I greatly improve my chances of avoiding a possible life interruption.

694

(48 replies, posted in Politics)

LP,

Sorry, but you have been listening to the incoherent rabble of those preaching "democratic peace." Realism is the state of affairs in the political world.

Russia, for example, is competing with the US for its geopolitical interests, and it has the power to get violent. It has done so in South Ossetia, although I agree with Russia's position. Bush was an jerk, but I'm just using an example.

You can say Russia is not a democracy, but truthfully it is no less democratic than the majority of democracies in the world. The most "democratic" countries are the United States, Japan, Canada, Australia, and the states of Western, Baltic and Nordic Europe.  The other democracies are very different.

And with these democracies, it can be argued that their interests are sufficiently aligned to prevent violent conflict, due to political, economic and cultural circumstances.

695

(48 replies, posted in Politics)

Huh?

696

(4 replies, posted in Politics)

Actually, I forgot to respond to this thread because I became addicted to Archie videos on youtube. I fell in love with the show, and I don't know why. Archie is so ignorant, racist and sexist, yet at the same time so likeable. It makes no sense...

697

(13 replies, posted in Politics)

Who let Deci out?

698

(38 replies, posted in Politics)

Wornstrum,

I think Flint is naive to maintain that America's foreign policy is morally superior. However, it looks like you are unfairly defending China.

With my realist-like outlook that assumes:
1. The interests who triumph in the competition for power get their way.
2. Beyond its convenience to interests, morality is meaningless in politics.
3. Do unto others before they do it to you. "The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."

It is no contradiction for me to be concerned with China's future potential, and actively promote efforts to curtail it and maintain America's hegemony on the world stage. It is in my own self-interest to do so. If my nation or the nations aligned with it aren't dominating, then my nation will be dominated. The bizarre part is that you also stand to lose by such a shift in the balance of power, yet you embrace this possible outcome with destiny and joy. Then you also have no problem calling us arrogant. Seriously, wtf?

When you call my nationalism arrogant, my response is simply "dominate or be dominated." If it's not America with the power, then it will be another nation. Only a fool would think that an alternative wouldn't use their power when it suited them.

China is no less morally bankrupt than other nations. They are all scum. Human rights are a sham, and American Exceptionalism is a myth. But for sensible people like myself who understand the consequences of China's disturbance to the balance of power, there is no reason why we shouldn't be concerned about China using its power to benefit itself.

699

(38 replies, posted in Politics)

I have been worried that China may try invading Sakha. It's rich in minerals and gas. And no, Russia probably won't nuke over it. Nukes won't be used by one nuclear power against another unless there is nothing to lose.

And Flint is right. The circumstances in China favor militarism. Moreover, such population imbalances highly correlate with militarism.

Which is why we need to stop toying with Russia, and help them build up their military so they can fortify their southeastern border.

700

(48 replies, posted in Politics)

That won't happen when the markets are dominated by monopolies and cartels. That, and today's "Capitalism" is infected with rent-seeking and insider trading etc.

Competition is great. But power tends to concentrate over time, and then there is no competition.