601

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

Yell,

WTF?

602

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

It's ok. I'll introduce him to the concepts of consumer/producer surplus, and deadweight loss.

Ready for your lesson Xeno?

603

(19 replies, posted in Politics)

No matter who you tax, you tax everyone the same. The best alternative is to cut taxes to 10% and slash welfare spending and entitlement programs, and unchain the free-market.

604

(65 replies, posted in Politics)

Flint,

<Even in legalized nations the whores feel mental anguish over their choice.>
I'm sure some do. But considering how many occupations have a high risk of poor mental health, it's obviously not a valid reason for outlawing it.

<Even with condoms some STD's can spread (Genital Herpes has been known to grow in other areams, condoms break, etc.)>

So? That is the risk participants choose to face, and is no reason to outlaw it. With this logic, we may as well outlaw sex for those infected with incurable STIs. Moreover, other occupations risk far worse hazards.

<if they made the wrong choice, they live with it, including an arrest record>

The point is that it's counterproductive if the objective is to "save" them from "exploitation."

<Btw those 'sluts' give it for free. Sex is an unlimited commodity and that's why the margins on it are so high.>

Sex is never free. If it was, then prostitution wouldn't exist, and the fair market value for call girls would definitely not be ~$200/hr.

<Btw Justinian, as the current Prophet on Earth, I curse your next solicitation of sex to lead to a child and that the lady successfully tracks you down and attempts to get you to act the father.>

Actually, that would be a blessing.

605

(65 replies, posted in Politics)

The only reason prostitution is banned is because of prejudice or lies. Some facts:

1. Prostitution is not violence against women.
-Only sometimes are prostitutes battered.

2. Outlawing prostitution because they may be vectors of disease is hypocrisy.
-Prostitutes go to jail, yet slutty college girls (who outnumber prostitutes and are less likely to use condoms) do not?

3. Prostitution is not exploitation of women.
-Only true when pimps or drug addiction are involved. Most prostitutes are rational human beings who think at the margins. They realize that prostitution offers high returns.
-It's often said of prostitution, but most people do not enjoy their jobs and would not work if they could afford to live leisurely lives.
-The internet has allowed prostitutes to more safely advertise their services and screen their prospective customers.

4. Criminalization does not save the women who work as prostitutes, and exposes them to greater danger.
-Prostitutes have little incentive to report business related abuse to the police.
-A conviction or arrest for prostitution damages a prostitute's ability to seek alternative employment, thus locking them in prostitution.
-The Swedish model compels prostitutes to make greater concessions to clients and introduces downward pressure on price. The reason is that many customers exit the market or demand to be compensated for the high risk, forcing the prostitutes to compete for the least desirable customers. In other words, the Swedish model causes a twisted buyer's market.

However, decriminalizing prostitution would make business for the prostitutes safer, and the government would be able to tax them.

606

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

V.Kemp,

LOL! A humorous description of our society smile. But I am not of the opinion that I need to restrain myself from using whatever power I have at my disposal to protect freedom from a stupid majority. I won't stand by as they abuse their freedom to take mine away. I consider it fitting to call it what it is, a war. And I don't believe in a gentleman's war where I tie my hands behind my back. No, I fight to win.

Zarf,

It's not that they disagree with me or anyone else. Parties in typical disagreements share many values, and the conflicting issues are about priorities and facts. For example, many of us agree that a government should do what minimizes poverty. However, some will argue that increased welfare spending will accomplish that best, while others argue that the best solution is to lower welfare spending and the minimum wage.

With fanatics, our definition isn't what's important. From experience, most fanatics pose no threat and can be ignored. However, other fanatics are all together different. When anyone desires to deprive you of your freedoms or even you life, merely because it matches his/her view of how the world ought to be, then there is nothing to debate about. Instead, they have declared war on you. And what other choice is there but to settle the dispute with blood and steel?

607

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

V.Kemp,

Points conceded. It leads to a slippery slope that can be abused for political expediency, and will push the debate underground.

But... when fanatics become competitive in the democratic system, what other choice is there for rational men but to set aside the law and/or respond with violence?

608

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

Kemp,

Sometimes, freedom is a zero-sum game. You have to take it away from a minority so that the majority can keep it.

609

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

In that case, I prefer going down in a hail of gunfire fighting the very tyrants who have expanded police power by reinterpreting the 4th/5th amendments, support extraordinary rendition, want to control sexuality and expand extra-judicial executive power, and now want to legalize torture.

Give me liberty or give me death!

Of course, bloodshed can be avoided if these police-state extremists are just silenced, and confined if necessary.

610

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

No one would object to denying academic employment to a politically active holocaust denier, and it's not unusual for Europeans to imprison them. David Irving is a recent example. Likewise, this woman's socially conservative views are no less extremist than holocaust deniers. I generally don't agree with employment discrimination, but I have no sympathy for that woman's defense. I'm also partial to European laws that imprisons extremists like her, stopping them from preaching hate.

611

(26 replies, posted in Politics)

Multiculturalism is a naive policy. While some cultures are advantageous, others simply have nothing to bring to the table. To shelter them from cultural selection is retarded. In fact, no culture should be sheltered. Let the most fit cultural ideas survive.

612

(53 replies, posted in Politics)

Xeno,

Because I have been enlightened by "The Prince," "Dictator's Handbook," and "History of the Peloponnesean War." I used to be an idealist, until I discovered how futile changing the state of affairs is. The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. I accept it, and I move on.

613

(15 replies, posted in Politics)

I am pretty sure Kemp agrees a lot with you on the economy and small government, but unlike you applies the "hands" off position on social issues like sexuality and drugs. Although, I could be mistaken, but that is a common theme among self-described Libertarians.

614

(39 replies, posted in Politics)

Flint,

I think you fail to understand the divide between social conservatives and those with libertarian tendencies. A coalition between them may overcome the Democratic party, but if social conservatives like you impose moral policing on us, then that coalition will break apart in the long-run.

In other words, a unified hatred of Obama may bring conservatives together on a united front. But it won't take long for the disagreements on moral policing to fracture the coalition.

615

(39 replies, posted in Politics)

Yell,

And you would fit right in with Mississippi. You're welcome to take all your socially conservative busy bodies with smile.

616

(5 replies, posted in Politics)

^ Agreed. Social conservatives hate freedom. Santorum said as much.

617

(39 replies, posted in Politics)

There are people who use Santorum as a poster boy to support their view that the Republican party is vile and crazy. However, others like myself are sensitive to social conservatives, and feel our freedoms are under threat when they hold office. Perhaps we are exaggerating their threat by neglecting what they could do, but I don't feel we aren't unjustified in being suspicious of them. They have already done enough damage, and repeatably harass lovers of individual freedom.

Also, you understate Santorum's popularity. In the poll I cited, Obama would only lead Santorum by 8% of the vote. That assures me he won't win the election this year, but it scares the crap out of me that that many people would vote for him over politics as usual.

Personally, I hope Romney wins. Although he's flip-flopper, I feel comfortable that his support for social conservatives is just lip service. And of all the candidates who could win, I agree with his economic policies the most.

618

(39 replies, posted in Politics)

I won't deny I greatly disapprove of Obama. As an independent, he disagrees on most of what I stand for on economic, political and social issues.

Economic:
1. Limit regulations to market failures like externalities and natural monopolies.

2. 100% international free trade, except when national security is threatened.

3. Eliminate the minimum wage, else reduce it no higher than $4.00 an hour. This will allow teenagers to get work experience and decrease unemployment.

4. Eliminate the laws forbidding strike-busts. I have nothing against negotiation, but competition should apply both ways.

5. Adopt a more "buyer beware" consumer protection policy. If consumers are too stupid to read their loan conditions, or understand that McDonalds packs their food with calories, then that's their problem. On the other hand, laws against deception to reasonable persons should be upheld. As it stands, consumer protection laws often serve as a barrier to entering the marketplace.

6. As part of a strategy to cut government spending, start slashing government welfare programs, cancel all government pensions, except those paid to police officers and military, and privatize social security and health care.

7. Eliminate the perverse incentives (intended to increase equality) for banks to recklessly lend. Second, eliminate all price controls like New York City's price ceiling on rent. Leave it to the market.

8. Start paying off the governmnt debt rather than adding to it.

9. Relax environmental regulations to meet our economy's needs.

Political

1. Impose discipline on the EPA. I don't stand for slashing them, but that agency has done ridiculous things like designate a dug-out hole for housing construction as a wetland after it rained.


2. Adequately fund the criminal justice system. It's overloaded with work, yet there are an abundance of unemployed lawyers.

3. More government in the sunshine laws, because government just isn't transparent enough.

4. Eliminate the president's ability to unilaterally deploy troops or order military strikes without congressional approval, unless the strike is authorized by treaty or conditions approved by congress.

Social:

1. Legalize prostitution and relax restrictions on drugs. Additionally, rather than focus on arresting drug suppliers, focus on rehabilitating drug users.

2. Make general abortion legal until the 3rd trimester, and keep contraception legal and widely available.

3. Permit greater flexibility for employees to negotiate with their employers, such as sacrifice time/half pay for more hours, or sacrifice benefits for higher pay.

4. Allow bankruptcy to apply to student loans, and privatize student aid.

5. Reduce the government's involvement in education to the minimum. It's only increasing administrative costs.

6. Privatize marriage.

However, social conservatives like Santorum scare the hell out of me. He is a foreign policy hawk, admitted he dislikes the libertarian wing of the Republican party, and is a prudish busybody who wants to police morality. Recently, I resolved to make a pragmatic decision. No matter how much I agree with them on economic or political issues, my position is soundly

619

(53 replies, posted in Politics)

Obviously, because residents of the third world must be sacrificed for the good of residents in the first world.

Sometimes, life is a zero-sum game. Get over it.

620

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

I have another monopoly for Kemp. Marriage!

621

(81 replies, posted in Politics)

LOLZ @ a forum mod editing the post of another forum mod.

Einstein,

Ah. Not sure why cash or long-term assets should factor in the decision on whether someone is rich. Of course, I would consider it financially imprudent to have all of one's assets in a bank account, but I'm not sure why that should make a difference on whether they are rich or not.

Then again, I have to admit that owning non-cash assets, which produce a passive income and/or appreciate in value, is a symbol of status and confers a sense of pride.

622

(81 replies, posted in Politics)

Just out of curiosity. When I think of "rich," I think of $100 million + in assets. A doctor is not rich in my book. Do you people consider doctors rich, seriously?

623

(81 replies, posted in Politics)

Xeno,

A lot of poor people have the wrong values. Not that they are necessarily lazy, but they are definitely following the wrong formula.

For example, I think at the margins. Most people think about satisfying themselves in the moment.

624

(81 replies, posted in Politics)

If it weren't for the fact that government programs caused the price of tuition to be inflated, then I would agree that everyone of merit could afford their own education. These days, yes, I swear only the women seem to care about performing well. But then, can you blame the men? There are more women in college than men, for real.

625

(81 replies, posted in Politics)

Oh yeah, I am redistributive... then so was Milton Friedman.