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are you talking to 05 Hardcore1012? ![]()
"2. Best Attacker: render 08 was working with next to no cash n res and still kicked ass"
is this a joke? you guys got 800mil gc from 05 and we only spent around 150mil during our war (hence our big EoR jump). It's not our fault that your attackers can't keep your fleet and have to constantly rejump...I would give credit to Oscar if he was actually able to carry your fam, except he made 2.7mil gc a tick at his size(350 planets)...tsk tsk.
"lol lets see how you do fighting 2 fams over twice your size "
you guys got 800mil gc and countless resources, you have 3 attackers in Tryme (who was planning on jumping but we took 20+ portals after his 13k trannies came in), Forever (who jumped to 1.8mil NW and got his figs ran within 20 minutes) and Render (who lost all his trannies and 100k figs on one portal share with me, and I didn't even have to take the portal share), and not to mention all the defenses you jumped for your bankers that eventually got runned down by 2 tickers. I would have loved to fight 2 fams with that type of funding...
lol they're new Seren ![]()
True Ariana. Props for 08 for not deleting. But also they didn't get beaten badly because I lost all my shares with them
They only lost around 650 planets a war that had very few shares...
lol Skyline, round ended 4 hours ago and everybody logged out already. The stats posted above is final haha.
lol playing by yourself after the round ends doesn't prove anything Forever ![]()
I'm not going to do the entire voting cuz that'll take too much energy, so I'll just do the few that matters.
Hannibal Lector (3906)
1.Best Leader/Diplomat: Skyline
2. Best Attacker: Blue
3. Best Banker: John Connors (Eminence) - 8mil+ a tick, didn't have to hog the bank and achieved it very efficiently, also crucial to his fam's overall success. Honorable Mention: IC Death, who probably lead the galaxy in income for the first half of the round. Elektra King, who was making 7.5mil a tick
4.Best Resourcer: Sephiroth (darksider33) - 350k/50k, undeniable. Honorable Mention: Horus
6.Best Wizzie Opper: Adolf Hitler (Star99) Honorable Mention: Meow Meow (Yambretta)
7.Best Agent Opper: none that were worth mention.
8. Most Underrated - Render - Pretty good leader, decent attacker, but had the misfortune to deal with my fam(s) 3 rounds in a row
9. Most Valuable Player - I felt like I earned it this round ![]()
10. Most Active - Sephiroth (darksider33)
14. Most Dishonorable - gotta be Render
15. Favorite Forum Poster - Serenity as usual
18. Biggest Mistake - PNAPing 3905
19. Biggest Surprise - Everybody deletes when we war them
21. Favorite Theme - 3910
22. Most Honorable Fam - 3906
24. Most Warlike Fam - 3906
26. Overall Rating - 6
but...we...did ![]()
*smack*
4 Moons of Uranus (3908) [13,33] 987 8653893 99767
and very close call and tough fight till the end for the 1k mark ![]()
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- CAPTURES -
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335 planet(s) captured by Hannibal Lector (75 %) (70 retakes).
134 planet(s) captured by The Terminator (84 %) (10 retakes).
104 planet(s) captured by Ming the Merciless (85 %) (52 retakes).
88 planet(s) captured by Megatron (86 %) (18 retakes).
86 planet(s) captured by Sephiroth (91 %) (6 retakes).
53 planet(s) captured by Adolf Hitler (85 %).
30 planet(s) captured by Karakumai (88 %) (1 retakes).
16 planet(s) captured by Elektra King (89 %).
3 planet(s) captured by Anton Chigurh (50 %) (3 retakes).
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623 from #3908
207 from #3909
17 from #3905
2 from #3913
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We overwhelmed the enemy 849 times. 4 families and 662 planet(s) involved.
We actually gained 528 planet(s) in total. Unfortunately they managed to retake 134.
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- BLOW-UPS -
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60 enemy planet(s) blown up by Hannibal Lector
17 enemy planet(s) blown up by Ming the Merciless
10 enemy planet(s) blown up by The Terminator
7 enemy planet(s) blown up by Adolf Hitler
3 enemy planet(s) blown up by Sephiroth
1 enemy planet(s) blown up by Megatron
9 planet(s) from Ming the Merciless have been blown up.
5 planet(s) from Hannibal Lector have been blown up.
1 planet(s) from The Terminator have been blown up.
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- DEFEATS -
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116 planet(s) lost by Hannibal Lector
64 planet(s) lost by Ming the Merciless
58 planet(s) lost by Sephiroth
46 planet(s) lost by Megatron
31 planet(s) lost by Karakumai
25 planet(s) lost by The Terminator
11 planet(s) lost by Anton Chigurh
10 planet(s) lost by Adolf Hitler
4 planet(s) lost by Elektra King
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362 to #3908
3 to #3905
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We have been beaten 365 times. 2 families and 237 planets involved.
We actually lost 172 planet(s) in total. At least we were able to retake 65.
Our side of zeh stats ![]()
lol stop pulling the vet card to someone who's been here since 2001 too ![]()
you guys did what you had to, and it was just a polite response by us, don't get ass hurt over it.
lol @Skyline
didn't you guys do the same? got allies to retake so you can take from them? cuz they didn't get a lot of planets from us... lol
a few funny quotes I noted down lol
Week 1, 0
TT (Honesty 3910): anyway since ur allying with 09 ugonna nap me? dont know how close we are or anything just dont want to get raped by u or ill have to move to america and show u what rape is lol
Week 36, 0
Week 36, 0
OK, i will show my abilities, and then you will understand that, i am probably better than anyone in my family at this game, because i can fight with the best and drop them like hot lead on plastic.
Signed, TOFU of FUTO (3907) <--- BC Cougar
sounds like BC cougar
lol Render is really retarded, I've had doubts before but no more:
"swarley wrote "I offered Render 100% swap lol." ---> did you ever count the planets we had gained in S1 ?? by doing 100% trades your family NOT ONLY should have traded your spots in my core, you should have traded planets in S1 too, sooo absurd!"
TRADING PLANETS: it means you give me your planet and i give you ONE planet, doesn't necessarily have to be(and definitely won't be) the one in your core. as we've stated before, YOU violated NAP so your planets have to go, we don't have to trade you our planets in your core. I even told you I'd trade you planets you share with 05, since I knew you guys were allied then (while you still tried to lie to me to my face
). You refused my offer, don't blame me for being a disgraceful player with no shame.
Since you can't find replies to all my points, you're always looking for other little things others say to pick on. Don't worry, I'll refute all your points so people will see what an idiot you are.
"Why did 09 06 not decided to swap planets? Instead they demanded the planets even though they knew 08 got those planets thru wars."
omfg Skyline, I offered Render 100% swap lol.
Render, you're both a NAP breaker and dishonorable. You can't disprove that.
your point ---> "we just did what we had to... " (your own words) ---> raping a fam as punishment because they 'attacked' you, with rocks maybe?? cause I dont think they had much to attack with when already losing a war against my fam
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we're at war and we chose not to hit until attacked.
my point---> "I just did what I had to..." ---> clearing your spots in my core before you rape my family too.
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you broke NAP.
Actually I misread/failed to read your PNAP with 05 too ![]()
"Key part of the NAP that you dont know about nor does Render obviously: Had Render handed over the planets that violated the NAP he signed with 09, we would have been required to swap planets with him. He could have then had us give up our shares. But you see Ariana, you never know the full story. Plus Render doesnt actually read the NAPs he signs... he just comes to uni to whine when they dont go his way (though he violates them on a constant basis). So long story short, had Render simply replied to the messages he was given by 06/09... he could have been on a much fairer playing ground and better protected.
------> BIG LIE! Templare never agreed on trading those shares in my core, he wanted me to give the spots in s1 and get other planets for the trade, but not those in my core. So he basically was calling me IDIOT by thinking I would accept such a thing, the nap was canceled, so at its expiration he woulda raid my core with those shares and kill my fam."
YOUR PLANETS ARE VIOLATIONS,
OUR PLANETS WERE NOT VIOLATIONS,
YOU TRADE YOUR VIOLATIONS OUT,
WE DON'T HAVE TO.
jesus why do I have to spell everything out?
basically Render broke NAP in the best interest of his family. You could've just said that.
I will rebuttle every point you make just so that everyone understands that we're not just flaming Render (08) but also rightfully so.
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"As most of you know, Render was forced to sign a nap at the beginning of the round in which he's not allowed to have planets in sector 1. He gained some planets through the war with 15 and thus some share's with 06/09."
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Render signed the NAP because his family faced extinction at the beginning of round, it was either NAP or being killed off, of course he did what's in the best interest of his family by NAPing, please be careful of your use of the word "forced". He did indeed gain shares through the war with 15 and shares with 06/09.
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"Lately, (this was before Frenzy deleted) Render decided to cancel his nap on 09 mainly to have some fun and I believe that he also expected them to cancel their nap with him sooner or later. 09 and 06 rightfully wanted their planets in sector 1 back."
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This is accurate.
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"One of his options was to give up the planets he had in that sector and thus all his share's in the core of 06/09 and wait till tick of war. Most probably you can all imagine the scenario where Renders family is getting obliterated (not even taking into account that it would have been a 2 vs 1 ) simply because the enemy posses planets in their core while they have none at first tick of war."
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08 cancelled on 09, then 10 ticks later 06 cancelled on 08 for the best interest of their alliance. If Render wanted a honorable war, he would have given the planets back and fought 09 for the first 10 hours. He had every intention to use the shares he acquired as leverage in order to defeat a "seemingly strong" family in 09 which lost two of their main attackers within the last few days. His obliteration was inevitable, and he chose to even the odds by performing an illegal action by agreement.
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"The other option was refusing to give back those planets. This would then mean that the opposing families would void their nap (templare admitted he would void nap if 08 did not give up their planets) which too would end in a death scenario for him and his family since now they can choose when to clear out his share's and when to raid his bankers."
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If you could, Ariana, give me one good reason for 06 NOT to void NAP, since 08 chose to disregard the NAP agreement in the first place. Ultimately, 06 never broke the NAP agreement, only when 08 decided to prematurely strike, did 06 jump fleet and respond.
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"So from a stratigical point of view, the best thing to do, for the sake of his family was to strike first. He would atleast have cleared his share's and kept his core clean for small period of time. It is already a 2 vs 1 with both families being bigger and it was pretty much decided that he would have lost the war from the beginning but atleast he is trying to do the best for his family and bring back some life in PW which is something nobody can deny."
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Basically he pursued dishonor in order to defend his family, that's fair, as long as he admits it. Since you're going to share the "full" story, I'll add a little bit so the rest of Pinwheel is better informed. According to key players in both 08/05, 08 and 05 have recently joined alliance and had been plotting this war for a while. Both family are fully aware of the advantages 08 has on 06/09, and it is the goal of 05 to use their recently acquired allies to both deny victory to 06/09 and compensating themselves for infrawhoring all round.
Since the NAP break performed by Render, 05 alliance has aided over 400mil gc and numbers of million of iron and endu to 08 alliance, in exchange that 08 will give majority of the planets they captured to 05. Because 05 still has PNAP with 06/09, they will be able to hold onto those captures in order to secure their victory in size. When informed that 06 will most likely exceed planet size after the war with 08, members of 05 immediately went forth to plan this maneuver. This plan has backfired to a certain extent, because not only was 08 not able to capture planets to pass to 05, they have lost over 500 planets themselves, despite having the NAP break advantage (all of my shares were cleared). So far, many of the retake planets have been passed to 05.
I must admit that this is not illegal and even clever in the part of 05, but objectively speaking, this would solidify the idea that 05 has failed to done anything significant (you read it right, I said it) this round while coasting to size win (and possibly NW win), while 06/09 managed to beat families that were worth while (including the previously top alliance, who similarly performed a NAP break in order to gain advantage), and beat them badly.
I told my alliance to not run into Uni News and run our mouths about all the controversy surrounding the war because we have decided to play with the cards that have been dealt, but since Ariana decided to post his subjective opinion above, I decided it was time for me to reveal all relevant information.
Best,
Templare (3906)
worst fam I've faced this round ![]()
nap breakers get punished ![]()
A wise man once said, "less qq, more pew pew!"
learn how to win the right way. aka last round when we raped you. k thx.
"former last place vs former first place"
We didn't accept the challenge because you used refuse to give up your violations, and we are using the war to punish you
Don't pretend like you're on a moral high ground because "you're small and inferior". I didn't have to cheat to kick your ass last round when we were in the same situation now did we.
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