This thread is done. You have no answers to very basic questions. Go to school.

>>Your first post said something along the lines of 'stem cell procedures don't always work as intended, and you get side effects'.<<

No. I mentioned embryonic stem cell research not yielding productive results. I mentioned that adult stem cells can and are being used with progress. I implied that we should, perhaps, focus our efforts on the stem cell research which both yields results and does not require the destruction of embryos to do. Your story is of the use of adult stem cells, not embryonic stem cells. If anything, it is additional evidence for my implication. And it was just an implication.

I was sooooo explicitly clear. <===that is my message.

Listos is the guy from my example. He's totally psychotic, but that doesn't change anything. He's still stuck in reality with the rest of us. And that's the truth, regardless of whether he likes it or accepts it or is functional enough to be aware of it.

lol question. agreed. Politics is dead! Long live Politics!

Hey Xeno, where's my response? If this is your admission that you didn't consider the most basic economic principles before starting a thread, LET IT DIE BEFORE PAGE 20.

Edit: Balls. Here's 20. I want to hear what he has to say about being run over!

Cry more. Nobody loves you.

You advocate genocide of their countrymen because they do not care for their own children? Presumably you're not suggesting foreign nations impose a babysitting function within the current society.

Usually, when the word "truth" is being raped, the focus is on human perception and the limits of human perception to KNOW.

Like the word "reality." It's a real word. You can look it up. But I doubt many places will define it such that a psychotic person is actually physically not entirely bound by the same laws situated in the same world as the rest of us. (seeing as they are, in fact, not) Because my perception of something is different from that of a person of another culture in which connotations of certain words are VERY different for the two of us does not mean that we experience DIFFERENT REALITIES when we have the same experience but do not look at it the same way. It means we had different perceptions. It means we interpretted things differently. Redefining real words we have real meanings for is just ignorant, pointless, misleading, and [thus] stupid. I suppose it's not pointless if one's goal is to jazz something up to try to sound more intelligent, like one has a new perspective, and so garner some attention. But I would contend that such is not an admirable goal to work toward here.

The bottom line is that the psychotic person is not actually omnipotent. I don't care what the limits of human perception are; we all know that, just because a guy is psychotic and thinks he's superman and he's going to run through that brick wall, when he hits it and kills himself, he is objectively dead and did not, in fact, run through that brick wall. Truth has a meaning too. Debate how knowable much or any TRUTH is freely. But to redefine this word is as bad as "reality." The psychotic guy is just as dead here and now in the real world, no matter what pseudo-intellectual BS might want to claim about us not KNOWing anything.

... ass.

>>but talking to you was simply useless because all u can do is go to threads and make bad comments about the posters.<<

You're ignoring the posts which contend that you are wrong seriously in favor of reposting a topic WITHOUT addressing its serious posts of dissent. Until you are up to actually addressing the arguments against your position, you are in no position to make "bad comments" about me because... I made a "bad comment" about you? I explained myself. You're obviously incapable.

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>>you never made us to enlighten us with ur illness so we can see if true or not.<<

I spent a short while looking for statistics on money spent on care/number of people seeking care in foreign nations. I looked for US citizens traveling abroad and non-US citizens traveling to the USA for care. I failed to find anything very comprehensive (when at all). Rather than spend more time looking for statistics which, as I explained, wouldn't mean anything to a forum comprised primarily of kids who can't digest [even basic] statistics anyway, I let the topic go. I _even explained_ (hard to comprehend, right? obviously so... you didn't get the message, and here we are) this and didn't continue making fun of the ignorant retards in the thread. If you want to argue that it is reasonable to expect me spending more time gathering data for little kids, go for it. But I'd feel silly doing it, let alone arguing that one should.

I have no idea what you posted on your income. It's embarassing enough addressing small children half the time. I don't want to know about your finances.

>>when its about weapons you come with the right for self defense and ignore all facts<<

Yeah, read that thread again. You'll feel bad for children ALL over the world. It's in line for dumbest thread of kids shitting on the forum ever. Fine example. I'll gloss over how your claiming I "ignore all facts" is a dumb lie. If it could be more backwards... No. Nevermind. It couldn't.

>> i gave u the statistics about murder rates with guns there.. but.. you wont care.. u dont care for information.. you only care for insults.<<

Yeah, read that thread again.  "the statistics about murder rates with guns there." WHAT A STATISTIC! That tells us so much. You can read that thread to the end to see me go on at length as to why this is retarded. I HIGHLY suggest NO ONE ELSE read that thread. It's so [   ]ing stupid you'll want to... do most anything but read that thread.
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>>whats your fucking problem lol...<<

I just pointed out that you're just spamming your arguments against strawmen arguments. A strawman "argument" is a fallacious argument in which one person argues against a position which another does not actually hold. The goal is to make the position look obviously silly in the hopes that ignorant morons bearing witness will confuse the "strawman" (the position you're attacking which no one holds) with the actual argument of the opposition to your view.

You didn't have to get all bent out of shape about it and point to other instances where you have failed to respond to the most basic of dialogues. My post was a line long.

Wow. You're disgustingly stupid.

Germany has a lower murder rate than the US. So what?

Canada has a lower murder rate than the US? So what?

You're so stupid I have to spoon feed you even the questions to ask to come up with any substance, and still you fail. Unless you have some information which attributes US murder rates (as compared to X country with lower murder rates)  to firearms, your comparisons of murder rates are meaningless. Other nations without firearm bans have lower murder rates than the US. How do you explain those, when without further analysis you just presume that because X nation with more gun control than the US has a lower murder rate, the gun control is the cause? Without an explanation of how you attribute this difference in murder rate to firearms, you must be BAFFLED at why other nations have lower murder rates without gun control. [I can't make this any simpler. You fail to provide the most basic explanation of what you are claiming and mouth off instead. Honestly, anyone older than 15 is reading this thinking you're a moron. It doesn't matter if there's 3 or 4 15 year old morons. "Total Pwnage"? You're still failing to have the simplest of dialogues and saying stupid things like this in place of ANY response to the most BASIC points that blow you out of the water] You're just too bloody stupid to use common sense to deduce that differing murder rates are not [necessarily] caused by firearms. You're SO undeveloped, be it by age or intelligence or education--I don't want to be mean if you were just born/raised stupid--that I can point this out over and over and never get any response.

>>sorry, i thought an educated person like you can see facts in statistics. after your second education you should be able to see statistics and filter the information from them.<<

I recently dug up statistics from nearly a dozen sites and stopped when they were just so redundant more wouldn't make any difference. Anyone can google information on gun control and crime rates. An educated person like me has looked up, digested, and posted statistics from the UK, Australia, and countless cities in various countries where, with the passing of firearms bans, violent crime increased dramatically. Rates like "more than a 100% increase" (that means more than doubled, for the retards out there) are pretty dramatic and I think they should not be overlooked as statistical anomalies. The UK saw large increased. AU saw increases more than doubling. Many cities (and consistantly--I haven't found a case where the opposite has occured. Found one? If you had you'd have posted it instead of garbage.) see the same thing.

But the best "facts" you can find that I should be able to "filter from" the "statistics" are... Germany has a lower murder rate than the USA? So what? What's your point? You don't have one. How could anyone respond to posts so absolutely idiotic as yours constructively? You have absolutely nothing to say. You're crying that I must be wrong, yet you have absolutely nothing to disagree with in what I say. You do not contend that my data is skewed or that the reasoning that lead to my conclusions pulled from the data is skewed. You just have "Well Germany has less murders!" to offer. Good job. Swing and a miss. Try again.

I was going to point out the idiocy in his saying we should take away ALL income a person can get from academic contribution (which is already small), but I really don't care for the majority of academics so I'm just gonna let it slide.

You have to remember, You_Fool, that his country doesn't have the public libraries (and relatively public libraries) of our nations. Their focus is support through indoctrination. They teach him that the West is evil and it is their evil which causes poverty. He doesn't have the things we have at our disposal 7 days a week that we are so wealthy we generally ignore for our whole lives. But he DOES have the ignorance and arrogance to think he knows about these things and post anyway! That makes up for it; right? Be nice. Maybe he knows and he's just jealous.

You have a lot of focus on "give everyone X standard" (and you set a pretty high standard, with food, housing, clothing, internet, etc) with NO attention to PEOPLE HAVE TO DO X WORK TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. You gloss over this DETAIL which is the BIGGEST FOCUS OF HUMAN LABOR SINCE THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY. Work on that.

What a surprise that your post lacks any explanation of what the "bigger picture" is and how gun control fits in despite the fact that, in addition to restricting a person's freedom and safety (and the safety of anyone and everyone he/she is with), it raises violent crime rates.

It's a shame that the only liberals on this forum are kids and teens who find most liberal positions to better fit their "I wish the world was this way" and "I wish this was the method that worked in the world I wish I lived in" views of the world. There are educated adults whom I disagree with on plenty of political and philosophical issues. But nonsense like the liberals of this forum post here? Give me a break. Do you see me posting "You just don't see the bigger picture. What a shame!"? Yeah. I didn't think so. Get offline and go to school. You have work to do.

The fact that you two are even more of wankers than the rest of IC with nothing to say of their celebrations tonight!

You don't even have to be Irish or half Irish or a fourth Irish; if you don't know any lovely Irish ladies or have any fine experiences on this night of ladies kissing ladies, you just missed out!