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Here it goes then. What a way to ruin it for town..

Session Start: Wed Jul 13 11:29:43 2011
Session Ident: Primo
<Arnor> so Primo
<Primo> lo
<Arnor> any news from the doc?
<Primo> noone has contacted me yet
<Primo> i think people still dont trust me
<Arnor> Well a cop has.
<Primo> you're a cop?
<Arnor> Or a spokesman.
<Arnor> It's up to you what to believe tongue
<Arnor> either way, it's the genuine thing though.
<Primo> if you're the cop
<Primo> who is the watcher
<Arnor> He's to remain anonymous.
<Primo> no, i have no reason to trust you are actually the cop
<Arnor> I'm not saying I even am the cop.
<Primo> great
<Arnor> But obviously, I can't trust you completely either.
<Primo> then there is no reason to continue this chat hmm
<Arnor> I think we can.
<Primo> well, i think i cleared myself beyond reasonable doubt
<Arnor> indeed.
<Arnor> Or at least as far as one can.
<Primo> then time to show your hand
<Arnor> But I'm sure you can understand that I can't expose all of the cops.
<Arnor> I'll tell you what the cops have been up to though.
<Primo> no, i dont understand
<Primo> but do tell
<Arnor> Wether you believe it is up to you .
<Arnor> It's not a matter of confidence.
<Arnor> It's a bit like buying a house with the love of your life.
<Primo> cut the crap and start talking tongue
<Arnor> You trust her and all that, but you want your name on the official documents, do you?
<Arnor> The cops have been investigating you mostly. There was both an investigation and a watch on you. Coppers thought you'd be eliminated.
<Primo> when have this investigation and watch happened?
<Arnor> 2nd night.
<Arnor> the watch was on the first.
<Arnor> last nightphase, Metrex was to be investigated, but obviously that didn't go through.
<Primo> im gonna need names, thee is no way i can tust any of this atm
<Arnor> It's all I'm allowed to give.
<Arnor> Take it or leave it.
<Primo> i think i'll leave it then
<Primo> what am i supposed to do with this info?
<Arnor> what did you expect then?
<Arnor> With 3 undetectable roles?
<Primo> if i were SK or mafia, would i have allowed this to happen?
<Arnor> For all we know you convinced some chump to activate his secret role, and you could be the SK.
<Arnor> It's a perfectly fine scenario, and we can't rule it out.
<Primo> ...
<Primo> if i were SK, i wouldnt want the role to have happened
<Arnor> I don't know
<Arnor> An SK can live perfectly anonymous in a group of townies
<Arnor> but it can never survive among mobsters.
<Primo> so i'd want to kill
<Primo> chance of mafia getting SK is a lot smaller than the chance of SK getting a mobbie
<Arnor> But by doing that night activity, you gain the trust of the town.
<Primo> too fa fetched imo
<Arnor> of course it is.
<Primo> either way
<Arnor> But giving up all the names is as well.
<Primo> my point of doing this
<Primo> was to unite town
<Primo> your refusal to cooperate isnt helping
<Arnor> Oh, but it is.
<Arnor> a network doesn't converge into 1 person.
<Primo> it does
<Arnor> at least we know that we ought to trust eachother.
<Primo> there is only two people that i am 100% certain of
<Primo> me, and the ex-secret role
<Arnor> the ex-secret role?
<Primo> ...
<Primo> right, atm i am rather convinced you are a mob trying to gain info
<Primo> why should i not start a lynch mob for you?
<Arnor> I could say the same thing about you primo.
<Primo> good stuff
<Primo> see you at the gallows then hmm
<Primo> and tell the cops, if you know them
<Arnor> for god's sake.
<Primo> to contact me
<Primo> and do it before you han
<Primo> g
<Arnor> so far for uniting the town then.
<Primo> if you rather be dead than help town
<Primo> sure thing
<Arnor> Are you really this thick?
<Primo> no, clearly you are
<Arnor> Well then, subility is clearly not your thing then tongue
<Primo> im sorry
<Primo> but how does any of the info you have given me
<Primo> unite the town?
<Primo> what do you suggest happens?
<Arnor> read up.
<Arnor> If I'd be the spokesman of the cops
<Primo> i have read it, it doesnt make sense
<Arnor> and they haven't investigated me, why would they trust me?
<Arnor> What would that mean?
<Arnor> Or rather, could.
<Primo> it doesnt matter
<Arnor> For god's sake, I'm one of the cops.
<Arnor> I will not expose my accomplice.
<Arnor> I don't have the authority.
<Arnor> And honestly, I don't want to give it all up.
<Primo> then i have no other choice than to hang you, see if you are the cop and then the other guy can come confirm the story
<Primo> or do i?
<Arnor> you can either accept and believe what I'm saying. Or not.
<Arnor> It's up to you.
<Primo> what is the gain of believing what you say...
<Primo> it doesnt unite town
<Arnor> I'm not going to expose my partner, not without consulting him.
<Arnor> it does unite town
<Primo> you had 24 hours to do so by now
<Arnor> not through you
<Arnor> but through me.
<Arnor> This is something we'll have to accept.
<Primo> the only way to unite town is through me, cause i am cleared, noone else is
<Arnor> And why would that mean you have to run the show behind the scenes?
<Arnor> If the doc contacts you, you can keep him secret for me, as long as you can get him to work with us.
<Arnor> same goes for my fellow cop.
<Primo> right
<Primo> i changed lynch vote to you.
<Arnor> he's on the team, but you don't have to know his identity.
<Arnor> Well then
<Arnor> you killed the town.
<Primo> no, if you're the cop, you killed the town
<Arnor> Fine.
<Arnor> Please don't throw my name into the [Arnor?  yikes] forum you moron
<Primo> its hard to lynch you without.
Session Close: Wed Jul 13 12:07:03 2011

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Before I'm off to bed, I'll recount what I said in chat:

I think we should eliminate Lexuzis. He's awfully quiet and unengaged in the discussions in chat. On top of that he hasn't made a single relevant vote. And finally, I used to talk a lot of things through with him in previous mafiagames, but these last two, I barely had contact with him.

That said, I'd like to stress that you can't expect miracles of Primo. Primo might have put himself out there and I hope he has established contact with the cops and doc, but it's not very likely that they'll be able to help him a lot. Instead, I think you should all think for yourself! tongue

Nighty night..

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"the past like last round? where he was mob"

No, before that...

254

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Lex is unusually silent and votes rather odd (wich is quite different from the past)..

I vote Lex.

255

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I'm voting Metrex. I don't have much on him though, but he defended Nolio rather easily and he bandwagoned on iluvatar rather easily.
I hope to come up with something better tomorrow morning though..

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I wasn't trying to take the credit primo.. I was merely retelling what it all was about.

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We were just lucky Chees. But Nolio is always a person who divides town, so he's always a danger. In this case Primo concluded we're better off killing him than a random person on the first lynch. My reasoning was the same tongue

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Not this again. Nolio claims to have a special role every single time.. Most of the times he does this he's just mob..

259

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I'm voting nolio for now, mostly because he causes so much confusion he ends up lynching townies. At the same time voting him nearly always provided a clue on who the mobbies are tongue

260

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Drink cherry wine and not taking clothes off? What the hell is that?

261

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Sounds like a plan, ZoZ. Sounds like a brilliant plan..

262

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Bierkelder :\

263

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You make it all sound like "socialist" or "communist" is an insult...

And Amedee is awesome, East. Who cares about politics while chosing pubs anyway? Only smallminded sour people..

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Wait what? I never drink cocktails..

265

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Good game! Thanks Arsy!

266

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6 augustus is nog een eind, dus ik kan nog niet echt een definitief antwoord geven..
Maar in Gent zijn alvast een hoop kroegen die perfect zijn: Hot Club, Hotsi Totsi, De Nauwe Zak, JH Den Kelder (bijzonder goedkoop), Trollenkelder, Volkshuis..
En goedkoop eten in de Sleepstraat big_smile

267

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Siouxsie Sioux - Into a swan

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My reason to vote Nolio is explained in this brief except of the chat:

[04:38] <Arnot_here> I sincerely think he's mob
[04:39] <Arnot_here> he's the only one who could convince the already dead mobsters to elect iluvatar godfather.
[04:40] <Arnot_here> and nolio never claimed to have a role he didn't, except when facing death.
[04:40] <Arnot_here> And he was always pro town, even when he was mob tongue
[04:41] <Arnot_here> I think chances are higher hes mob than with valenka.

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Voting Nolio btw.

270

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Don't kill iluvatar. He's gf. If he dies, the witchhunt starts all over again. Keep him alive so I can block him. wink

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Why would they kill you? You're no longer a special role tongue

272

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Amatorski - Soldier

273

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No, I asked you.

274

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Me too. I vote ben to reinstate the deadlock

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I'm voting Genesis.