Re: the best kept secret in IC

it wasn't 2 years ago, it hasn't been that long since it was incorperated, but i did do it the first round it was, and was getting 100% bonus on my investment too.
imagine getting 2 iron for every MF.
then you might get it.
and 16 gold for every CF
and 1000 food for every HF.
and planets with 100k pop potential.

if you got a brain then you see the benefit of this.
and NW is 1 NW pt per 100 Research points.
keeping your NW down, and potential high.

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1000 food for every HF amazing

please teach me how to hack resource research to get a 1000% increase in production instead of the max 99% increase possible with 99% resource research!

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> BC Cougar wrote:

(...)
and NW is 1 NW pt per 100 Research points.
keeping your NW down, and potential high.


Regardless of all the other nonsense in there, you do realize that research increases your nw by alot, and that high percentages on different areas are impossible to achieve

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nope, not as long as you only use RC's to make your research.
and HF's make 100 food a tick, what is 100x 100????? someone that knows math ansewer not thirdrock who obviously is failing in it.
if your research on resources is 100%... thats what you get per HF.

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> BC Cougar wrote:

> and most of you are so new to the game that you don't even realise that i have come up with most of the standard strats that exist in this game.


does that include quitting/deleting on your fam?

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100 x 100 = 10000

Not 1000 tongue

And if your resource research doubled your food income you'd make 200 food per farm, not 1000 either.

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> BC Cougar wrote:

> nope, not as long as you only use RC's to make your research.
and HF's make 100 food a tick, what is 100x 100????? someone that knows math ansewer not thirdrock who obviously is failing in it.
if your research on resources is 100%... thats what you get per HF.



not..sure..if..troll....

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Re: the best kept secret in IC

> BC Cougar wrote:

> nope, not as long as you only use RC's to make your research.
and HF's make 100 food a tick, what is 100x 100????? someone that knows math ansewer not thirdrock who obviously is failing in it.
if your research on resources is 100%... thats what you get per HF.

Lol'd so hard I almost threw up

Destiny is only for those too own to make their fate weak.

~ Geese

Re: the best kept secret in IC

Cougar, instead of just making random statments could you tell us in depth about what you discovered about research?

~ Cloud

"I Cannot Awake From This Nightmare As Long As You Exist..."

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i think this is indepth for him

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he doesn't have time for that Cloud... by the time he finishes typing he'll have forgotten he had a fleet out... will go to trigger it, fail on a laser trap, come back to find he didnt click "submit" before leaving forum... and then delete without explanation tongue

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LOL, cloud knows me better than that, and cloud you got my msn, you know i never fully divulge everything, but to friends such as yourself... i will tell you more on msn.

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@mace - i think he means the custom galaxies

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no, my mistake was that i meant to say 100% in resources science gives you 1000 food per HF, everyone makes mistakes, but to be so critical that you don't even realize that that in itself is a great thing... is very stupid.
some of you new twats with the IQ of a baseball card, shouldn't even be here go play space invaders or something.
act like you got a brain, everyone is able to misspeak, but it is better to try to understand, than to just totally dismiss someones discovery, without even realising that they mean well... i am trying to help people to do better, the better they do the better quality of the players in the game... and you only get better at chess (or any game) by playing better people than you... not by only playing people you know you can beat... thats why i never farm a family, unless provoked to do so by attacks.
every fight i have been in save 3 have been with families bigger than 7 ranks above me, and 4 that provoked me to attack that were only 2 ranks below me.
i am very proud of that fact.
most of you attack a family that is 15 ranks below you, and bragg that you beat they're asses... well thats no win, thats a gimmie... and you should hide your face in shame for doing it unless they are provoking you to attack.

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"investing in research with cash is like a nOOb trying to figure out how to explore a planet."

in fact CFs become better than RCs at about 50% economy research level, for pop bankers even at lower research level and bankers usually end up having economy research at 70%+

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we'll see.... LOL

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I'm confused about how 100% resources science gives 1000 food per HF...

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it doesnt..

he meant 200

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i can't believe you are still discussing this ...
why oh why didn't you just shut up in the beginning and you wouldn't have been a walking joke ...
man ...

Even a moderate scientist produces the equivalent energy of 8000 one megaton bombs

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what do you mean, we'll see?

quantam with 60% research, 1 RC makes 32 RP/tick
custom banker (50% race, 50% income sci, 20% TO's, 50% research) 1 CF makes 24 gc/tick -> fund 24 gc = 1 CF makes 36 rp/tick

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cf doesnt make 24gc with those stats sorry to say.. its closer to 20gc..

if i was on my main pc i have script to calc but cba to turn it back on just for this

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screw it, i hope non of you get it, but my family will use it to horrify you next round, because now they understand that saving is gaining, and the less spent to get more is a good investment so hide and watch... LOL this will be fun.

Re: the best kept secret in IC

Cougar why don't you post concrete strategies? It's not very hard and it will surely get people interested, as opposed to talking a lot and saying nothing which is what you're doing atm.

Be specific tongue

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i don't do math, i study by trial/and error so what i have found is that in useing RC's (instead of donating to research) that you not only grow research constantly..... but effectively without more than the cost of the RC.
the RC only cost 1 GC per tick upkeep, but gives you at the very least 20 research points a tick, so in 12 ticks it pays for itself, and from then on keeps generating more, without wasting your much needed cash to do it... is that simple enough.
investing in it take a valuable asset from your families growth, but using an RC will continue to contribute as long as you own it.
so you can invest and waste money on donation, (that will still raise your nw) or you can buy an RC and let it do it for you for the distance of the game.
atm i gain 10k a tick, even if i never built another CF. till of course it hits 100%, then i have to build CF's to maximise the income.
or better yet just keep building TO's which is anther story all together.
someone with better math skills than me can test this and give exact equations... i am not smart in that way, but there are many ways to be smart, i like to think that i am clever, more clever than most i have ever met.

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first off, it's a practical impossibility to hit 100% in any of the sciences. everyone knows RC's are very profitable in the early stages of the round. however, you cannot deny that once a certain eco science is reached it is more profitable for a banker to demo his RC's and build CFs which can be used to fund research.

second, humidity:

the income formula is this
Income = (100+ (pop/30) + (CashFactories * 8)) * (1+RaceBonus/100%) * (1+(2 * TaxOffices/(TotalBuildings))) * (1+ EconomyScience%/100%)

so when you neglect the base 100 and ignore income due to pop you get this:

Income = (CF * 8) * (1+RaceBonus/100%) * (1+(2 * TaxOffices/(TotalBuildings))) * (1+ EconomyScience%/100%)

so with racebonus = 50%
TO/Total buildings = 20%
EconSci = 50%
and 1 CF built

Income = 8 * 1.5 * 1.4 * 1.5
Income = 25.2

Buildings cost 1 gc for upkeep so:

Net Income = 24.2 gc

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