Re: My Conservative Platform

Justinian, Flint is right. You are NOT a conservative, but neither a socialist. I would place you close to the political center, a bit to the right. You place yourself to the conservatives, because the US knows only the two party system with the two extrems. In a wider party system you may place yourself diffrent in the political spectrum.

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"Voting privileges should be limited to individuals with upper middle class incomes, a bachelors degree (excluding a degree in something like fashion), or those who have honorably served in the US military for at least ten years."

So this means you want a society where the rich are exalted and the poor oppressed. which only adds to the list of problems the poor have to deal with. So please explain to me justinian how this is in the least bit empirically tested? Has this EVER worked in the past? Do this and you set yourself up for a violent revolution considering that 30% of America's population is considered working class.

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"Not really. The idea is that people who are uneducated or unsuccessful do not merit the right to vote. In my opinion, the poor are scum, and things have been screwed up because of them exercising that right."

What you believe doesn't change the fact that it's still a contradiction. ^.^ This country is based on the rights of man, that every person is created equal and has certain undeniable rights. Keep in mind that people can also be uneducated and still be successful and people can also be educated and be unsuccessful. A society will always have a lower, middle, and upper class. Even if very person on the planet were millionaires then the lower class would be those who have only 1m instead of 100m.

Personally I think there should be several things changes in terms of voting. Line voting should be removes, blindly voting for one party without any knowledge of the candidates is just plain wrong.

"Haha, I don't know if I'm more conservative than flint. But I am definitely part of a different class of conservatives, and I admit to being more elitist."

I said that cause we all know flint isn't a conservative to begin with. tongue

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Lol, I guess we have to deport Bill Gates then, seeing as he didn't get in more than one year of college.

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Firewing,

Fair enough. However, when we just compare with American conservatives, we see that they have moved further right over the decades. Just 40 years ago I probably would have been a clear cut conservative, and the conservatives like Flint would be reactionary nut jobs.

Rooster,

Well, the poor have always been at the bottom. The reason I don't want them to vote is because they are essential to a sick power network that involves unions, social reformers, and other left wing nuts. While those nuts do not care about the poor, they do want power. So right now we have people in our political process who are only elected because of their poor dependencies, and as long as they make noise now and then they will get elected again.

But otherwise, I would like to see the poor revolt. It's entertaining to watch imperial troops beat up hipsters and unwashed, uneducated barbarians.

Lizon,

In that case I have contradicted a value of American society, which I don't think matters much.

So what is Flint btw? An Authoritarian of some sort?

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the only real thing i saw that wasnt conservative was teh public schooling; which i definately disagree with. a lack of compeition makes teh schooling worse. each student should have money tied to them that goes to whichever acredited school their parents pick.

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Justinian I: "So what is Flint btw? An Authoritarian of some sort?"

A socialist, as are you. wink

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> Justinian I wrote:

> But otherwise, I would like to see the poor revolt. It's entertaining to watch imperial troops beat up hipsters and unwashed, uneducated barbarians.


Spoken like palpatine

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> [TI] ARFeh zee Frenchie wrote:

> Um...what?


They are the same person. Hello, wake up and smell teh coffee. tongue

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> Justinian I wrote:

>
But otherwise, I would like to see the poor revolt. It's entertaining to watch imperial troops beat up hipsters and unwashed, uneducated barbarians.

Do you Imperial or...Federal? Actually never mind. They are interchangeable terms.

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Acolyte,

Hahaha. That's because you're way out in right field towards anarchy smile.

Arocalex,

Hell Yeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eqWFPMOaPI&feature=related

Elite,

Yup. I was using them synonymously. Although, I really would find it entertaining.

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I'm going to vote with my feet and choose not to live in Justinian's country tongue

tweehonderd graden, dat is waarom ze me mr. fahrenheit noemen, ik reis aan de snelheid van het licht, ik ga een supersonische man van u maken

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> BiefstukFriet wrote:

> They are the same person. Hello, wake up and smell teh coffee. tongue <


> [TI] ARFeh zee Frenchie wrote:

> Um...what?<

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@Justinian I

At least us anarcho-capitalists have the benefit of knowing we will always have "useful idiots" in minarchists such as yourself. smile

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I agree with your statement from the context of my own viewpoint; the popular perception of anarchy is, indeed, stupid.

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the term anarchy has been turned into a ditry thing by evil socialists.

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If only they had obeyed legitimate authority

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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what makes authority legitimate? when they're supported by 1/5th the population? or simply because they outgun everyone else?

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The lady of the lake, her arm clothed in shimmering samite, held aloft excalibur from the bosom of the water, thus...

It was a joke tongue

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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If you want anarchy go live in Somalia.

Anarchy = gang rule, whoever has the biggest private army wins,

Its just replacing organised greed with disorganised greed.

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The only group worse than socialists are anarchists.

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"Anarchy = gang rule, whoever has the biggest private army wins, "

thats not anarchy. what makes a government a government? gang rule is government rule. every time someone infringes on the freedoms of someone else, they're governing over them, and isnt anarchy.

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sad sKoE )=: "And the term socialist has been turned into a ditry thing by evil fascists."

Pro-tip: Fascism = socialism.

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"thats not anarchy. what makes a government a government? gang rule is government rule. every time someone infringes on the freedoms of someone else, they're governing over them, and isnt anarchy"

And the alternative to government is your fantasy world where you can do as you like with your fantasy private army.

dream on

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"Fascism = socialism."

Only in your feeble mind