Where I come from we throw weak children like you from cliffs as infants, whateverr.

"ummm, news flash. if a new more deadly virus emerges, you won' t be immune to it."

Umm, news flash: Let's say a strain of H1N1 mutates into something more deadly.  If you'd already caught H1N1 and recovered, you might be immune to the more deadly mutated strain.

Till its your life on thte line than youll cry like the little girl inside you....

Anyways look up 1918 flu, first winter it was harmless infected a few people no big deal, next winter it mutated from the people it infected the previous winter and became the pandamic that it is known for. I cant predict the future if the swine flu will mutate, but it doesnt mean that its not a possibilty. For all we know the gov will mutate it for us since they made it to begin with.

And this isn't 1918 -.-

"They make one every year because not everyone bothers to get the flu shot every year."

Incorrect. They get it because it's a new strain. Who the heck teaches you this stuff honestly? If you say some teacher told you they should get their license revoked.

"Not in your part of the world, I guess.  How fortunate for you.  You deserve to live, I suppose, and the majority of the human race who ARE still living in 1918 in terms of access to medical treatment and nutrition, don't deserve to survive, right?"

Again incorrect. Medical facilities all around the world have vastly improves over the past 100 years. Technology has made accessible health care available to billions. Even so called "3rd world" nations have an extensive health care system. Though these systems may be overworked they do exist where as back in 1918 they didn't. Again, where the heck are you getting this false information from? Your sources are severely flawed.

"But I'm saying (and this is where you listen) they don't have to.  The effect of getting a new vaccine every year and getting a vaccine every few years is pretty much the same!  Why?  Becuase people don't get flu shots every year!  Listen, will you?"

The thing is your wrong. ^.^ And now I want to know who was the person who taught you this false information.

"Ok.  Listen again, will you?  Back in 1918 there wasn't a hospital in Fisda village in the highlands of Zaire (or whatever they've renamed the country).  Now, today, there is STILL no hospital in that village, ok?"

Most people don't live in these small villages anymore, most now live in large urban areas. Your worried that one small village in the middle of nowhere where nobody lives doesn't have a hospital when I'm more concerned with the billions of people living in large urban areas where medical treatment is available. I don't know where your getting this information from, but it's all false.

Even people in these regions are more likely to die from a car accident than they are to get sick much less die from this "virus". Only a handful of the infested people from this thing have actually died, most of them have recovered and are now fine. It is not a big deal. Why not try to bring up a topic that effects more people and is more pressing.

Tell me this, what percentage the world dies to the flu each year, statistically over the last 100 years?

Or if you want an easier one on your mind, what percentage of the population gets the flu averaged over a hundred years?

"But, you are are wrong.  tongue  Have you ever been to a developing country?  Most people DO live in such villages.  They just happen to be called 'slums' now."

According to the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs over half of the world population now live in urban areas.

slum (noun) - a densely populated usually urban area marked by crowding, dirty run-down housing, poverty, and social disorganization

You may think they are villages but they aren't, they are part of urban centers. These are facts, not assumptions.

"No, it isn't.  If you pay a month's savings on the fee, perhaps it is available.  When swine flu hits, though, the few people who will be willing to pay half a year's savings just to get their family members diagnosed (nevermind actually paying for the AV drugs), will catch swine flu just sitting in the waiting room."

Obviously you don't know what the real cost of health care in these countries. You are assuming this with no facts to back it up. Assume nothing.

"You mean horse accident, right?  They don't have cars.  Lol."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile

This doesn't include mass trans it numbers, bicycles, scooters, ect ect ect. People don't use horses in urban environments for the most part. Even in "rural" areas cars aand automobiles are very common. Welcome to 2009.

"No one.  It pretty logical if you think about it:"

If the illogical person is saying what they say is logical then by definition what they say is illogical.

"if only such and such percentage of the population bothers to get flu shots every year, the annual vaccines don't prevent the spread of the virus and thus its mutating to a new strain.  If every human on earth got a flu shot every year, then it might be effective."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

Educate yourself before blabbering on anymore, your wasting your time.

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"Tell me this, what percentage the world dies to the flu each year, statistically over the last 100 years?"

Approx half a million every year world wide flint. Which considering that this outbreak hasn't even killed 1k people makes it laughable in comparison.

"Approx half a million every year world wide flint. Which considering that this outbreak hasn't even killed 1k people makes it laughable in comparison."

OMG, LIzon, how dense are you!  You have NO idea how many cases there are nor how many it has killed so far.  The WHO itself can ONLY guess.  They ONLY report the confirmed cases - that is those who actually go to the hospital for testing / treatment.

They can only guess the real number of cases and deaths, because, and here is where you listen: Most humans DON'T have access to healthcare.

"n the United States, 6,552 probable and confirmed cases of H1N1 influenza, including nine deaths and more than 300 hospitalizations, have been reported to the CDC as of May 22, says Anne Schuchat, CDC

I said deaths, not infections. Read first before commenting. The case fatality rate on this virus is less than .1% (that's right .1%). When this thing reaches over 1m deaths come back here and talk about a possible pandemic, until then it's no big deal. I'm looking at this thing from a different perspective, more people will die from car crashes than this thing. More people will die from starvation, heck more people will die from extreme sports than this virus. You just don't seem to realize how insignificant this virus is. I am not concerned about this thing and neither should you. Nor should so called "3rd world" counties worry about it, the virus will run it's course, maybe a few thousand dead but that's acceptable. It make seem to be cold blooded but as a species it's a minor issue to be concerned with. If you are so personally concerned about it join up with the international red cross and do something about it, else stop wasting everybody's time with your silly arguments.

"It will become more easily transmissible."

Of course it will.

"It will probably become more virulent."

Irreverent and inconclusive, considering it's case fatality rate it would seem to have gotten much much weaker. If we were talking baout a 5-10% fatality rate that would be different. But we aren't now are we?

"They will probably not be able to create a vaccine for it, and so our best bet is simply AV drugs."

Which means it's acting like normal influenza, which again isn't that big of a deal since we already deal with that every year as it is.

"People need to know the facts NOW so they can prepare."

Let the scientists handle that and you go on your merry little way and don't concern yourself with it. There are bigger fish to fry than this minnow.

"Your watering down of the severity, Lizon, may actually kill people.  Irresponsible."

Overblowing a situation can be just as deadly, reallocating resources from projects that can save more lives for an insignificant nuisance. I know a lot more about this thing than you apparently do, stop reading what the media force feeds you and do some actual research for once.
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And Xeno,haven't you noticed by now that nobody really agrees with you on anything? Your always the only one trying to argue your point. You have to face facts, you aren't going to accomplish anything here. Your wasting everybody's time. ^.^