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"This does not prove anything. In fact it proves me right. If you use suicide vests you are still taking out enemies so what is wrong with it? They decided that their life is not going to be any good because of the SLA so they need to fight back for their children."

Dying for their ethnic enclave didn't win the war, did it?

"Okay i said the orphans decide to join the LTTE out of anger and frustration. Not that the LTTE makes them join through propoganda. The best propoganda LTTE has is the SLA's brutal massacres. That is enough for the LTTE to get recruits. They don't need to actually propgate anything."

Yes the libraries are full of 14 year olds in hornrims doing research on their options before they commit to a suicide bombing for the LTTE.  It's an informed choice we can respect.

"So are you saying that if you lost both ur parents who are CIVILIANS to the enemy indiscriminantly bombing a nearby hospital, you would not feel any kind of anger or frustration at all?"

Ofc not! That's why I support bombing the crap out of terrorists like the LTTE

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"Ofc not! That's why I support bombing the crap out of terrorists like the LTTE"

Okay thanks for showing us either ur not a human or ur a human with no soul...

"Dying for their ethnic enclave didn't win the war, did it?"

Nope it did not. but fighting for a just cause is better than living as a slave. Theres a thing called human dignity. And as the SLA "won" the war, they are taking away any little bit of human dignity. They put the tamils who were displaced by the war in refugee camps. there they throw food in the sand and expect the tamils to go run like animals and fight for it. The same kind of ppl who watched over abu ghraib are at the refugee camps in sri lanka. Go lookup the documentary by the british journalist who was detained in sri lanka for taking footage of these things.

I don't know about you but suicide seems like a lot better option than to lose all human dignity to another group of humans. Humiliation is simply not an option for the tamil people.

"Yes the libraries are full of 14 year olds in hornrims doing research on their options before they commit to a suicide bombing for the LTTE.  It's an informed choice we can respect."

Are u saying that u go to the library before u make any decision in ur life? So say they did not have a library, they are not allowed to do anything? What about the "terrorists" who joined washingtons army? Did they go look up the history of great britain before they joined?Your arguments are worse than a 5 year old LOL. The only few decent arguments have already been squashed...

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"Okay thanks for showing us either ur not a human or ur a human with no soul..."

What would you call the LTTE?  I'm proud to help kill them.

"I don't know about you but suicide seems like a lot better option than to lose all human dignity to another group of humans. Humiliation is simply not an option for the tamil people."

Too bad they chose suicide-murder.  Wheres the concern for the human dignity of a guy bleeding out because he bought a melon when your "heroes" asserted their dignity in a market?

"Are u saying that u go to the library before u make any decision in ur life? So say they did not have a library, they are not allowed to do anything?"

Teens know what they're taught, you're pleased they're taught to murder innocent people.

'What about the "terrorists" who joined washingtons army? Did they go look up the history of great britain before they joined?"
which terrorists were that?  Washington had guys in uniform shooting troops in uniform.

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I just hope there are trials and the remainder of the LTTE that had surrendered is put in front of firing squads. I wonder... Could we pay... you know... sorta a ''economic recovery" payment... to be on one of the firing squads?

I would like to put a nail in the last non-islamic suicide bomber group in the world.

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"'What about the "terrorists" who joined washingtons army? Did they go look up the history of great britain before they joined?"
which terrorists were that?  Washington had guys in uniform shooting troops in uniform."

Washington had a band of farmers who could not afford a uniform so they fought with their everyday clothes. It was much later in the war when washington had the advantage that more and more of his men started getting uniforms. Even in the end of the war many of his militia had no uniform.

Besides... does the uniform make an army legit?

"Teens know what they're taught, you're pleased they're taught to murder innocent people"

You know no matter how many times i tell you, u dont seem to understand or u just ignore it... The young orphans of the tamil population do what they do because of human nature. People in the sri lankan army also do what they do because of human nature. You are right, if i was a sri lankan boy and my parents were killed in the marketplace by LTTE, i wud have the same anger as the tamil boy. This does not get rid of the fact that the separate country the LTTE fights for is a just cause. You have to keep in mind this cycle of violence will NEVER end unless the tamils are given a separate state and aloud to rebuild their communities. You simply cannot hope to hold on to and suppress a population for more than 70 years and not expect to have a backlash. If the ends justify the means, then suicide bombing is absolutely jusified. Am i happy that innocents get killed on both sides? Absolutely not. I myself would hope that they can settle this peacefully but after 30 years of protests there was only more sadness and grief.

Some earlier said that there was no oppression... The oppression is absolutely apparent. In 1949, as soon as the british left sri lanka, the sri lankan government brought into law a disenfranchisement of roughly 40% of the tamil population. The law specifically stated that if you spoke TAMIL and you were a plantation worker you would not be aloud to vote. ofc the tamil population protested but all in vain. Next the government owned universities discriminated tamils from joining. Ofc they protested but all useless. Before the british left, tamils had approximately 50% of the government jobs. After they left, they had only 10% of the gov jobs. Ofc they protested, but it was all useless. Governmetn funds to tamil populated areas were so severely cut that they simply had to close down POST OFFICES! The national language was changed from tamil and singhalese to only singalese. So you had to learn singalese or you had no economic opportunity in the country. So in 1985, the LTTE formed by a group of young tamils who decided that enough was enough. They were going to stop paying taxes to sri lanka and declare themselves a separate state.

All this why? Because the tamils were favored by the british and they held a lot of power in the local communities. After the british left, sri lankan government started propogating that the tamils are no good and are not fit to be at the same level of citizenship as the singhalese.


So enough of this "innocents are dying" blah blah blah crap.  To be honest, the majority of the tamil population would rather die than be humiliated. So why is it just for the United States to get a separate country even though they don't even speak a different language from the king of england. And they don't look different or have a different culture from england. But it is not okay for the tamils to get a separate country?

save urself before u drown in ur own hypocrisy.

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I will take that on.

In Washingtons days a line of soldiers would face another line of soldiers, load, fire, and take fire in return. It was quite obvious who was in a military unit and who was just some farmer.

A man in a military unit traveled in a formation with many men in formation, I believe the smallest unit was of 20 men. They would be armed with musket, would form a formation to engage, and were always identifiable by their actions.


I already posted how you can do a revolution, and not harm to many innocents, and not target them directly.

Suicide bombers is an anethema to us, and will always be, we will always side with the opposing faction or with neither faction, we will never side with suicide bombers or the factions supporting them. When will this be clear to you?

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Scorched earth, craters mark Sri Lanka's war zone
By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer John Heilprin, Associated Press Writer

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"You know no matter how many times i tell you, u dont seem to understand or u just ignore it... The young orphans of the tamil population do what they do because of human nature. People in the sri lankan army also do what they do because of human nature. You are right, if i was a sri lankan boy and my parents were killed in the marketplace by LTTE, i wud have the same anger as the tamil boy. This does not get rid of the fact that the separate country the LTTE fights for is a just cause."

Rape is human nature too, should I approve that?

"You have to keep in mind this cycle of violence will NEVER end unless the tamils are given a separate state and aloud to rebuild their communities. "

Guess not, they gave up last week.

"You simply cannot hope to hold on to and suppress a population for more than 70 years and not expect to have a backlash. "

Sure. And then the backlash should have the most severe repression unless it subsides.

'If the ends justify the means, then suicide bombing is absolutely jusified. Am i happy that innocents get killed on both sides? Absolutely not. I myself would hope that they can settle this peacefully but after 30 years of protests there was only more sadness and grief."

And so, kill some innocent people who want to buy food.  "Enough of this innocents being killed blah blah blah".

"The oppression is absolutely apparent. In 1949, as soon as the british left sri lanka, the sri lankan government brought into law a disenfranchisement of roughly 40% of the tamil population. The law specifically stated that if you spoke TAMIL and you were a plantation worker you would not be aloud to vote. ofc the tamil population protested but all in vain. Next the government owned universities discriminated tamils from joining. Ofc they protested but all useless. Before the british left, tamils had approximately 50% of the government jobs. After they left, they had only 10% of the gov jobs. Ofc they protested, but it was all useless. Governmetn funds to tamil populated areas were so severely cut that they simply had to close down POST OFFICES! The national language was changed from tamil and singhalese to only singalese. So you had to learn singalese or you had no economic opportunity in the country. So in 1985, the LTTE formed by a group of young tamils who decided that enough was enough. They were going to stop paying taxes to sri lanka and declare themselves a separate state.

All this why? Because the tamils were favored by the british and they held a lot of power in the local communities. After the british left, sri lankan government started propogating that the tamils are no good and are not fit to be at the same level of citizenship as the singhalese. "

So, this is about 18% of a population losing 50% of civil service jobs?  WTF should 18% have 50% of the jobs? That's a reason to send kids to blow the legs off old ladies?

You're a babbling terrorist Red Rooster.

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"So, this is about 18% of a population losing 50% of civil service jobs?  WTF should 18% have 50% of the jobs? That's a reason to send kids to blow the legs off old ladies?"

it is amusing how you pick at 1 statistic and call the whole thing off. Lol i told you brits favored the tamils. Which was not right either in my opinion. But the sri lankans oppressing tamils is 10 times worse than what brits did.

You disregard the fact that the funding for tamil communities were cut to basically 0 and u disregard the fact that they were discriminated against in universities. You are disregarding the fact that all tamil speaking plantation workers were disenfranchised.

What solution would u give chris? Your only solution so far is "kill them all, dirty terrorists" It is people like you who have tarnished americas reputation around the world. America usually argues in favor of common sense driven by ideals but ever since bush you have reversed.

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whaddya want, quotas? shall 18% of the population get 36% of the jobs and not have to learn the lingo of the other 82%?  you want civil servants that don't speak the language of 82% of the people?  (phony argument, if they had 50% of civil service jobs they couldn't possibly speak ONLY Tamil. more ethnic separatism.)

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Hey chris... why must the original inhabitants of an island learn the language of the newcomers? Why must the tamils learn the language of singhalese but not the other way around? Can't they both just learn english and have more oppurtunities in the world? Living together is simply not an option. If they want a separate state why not give them a separate state? Maybe the tamil eelam and sri lanka can be allies one day but they will never be allies unless the tamils are given a separate country.

Again you like to debate only one statistic. For the 4 other evidence ive provided of oppression you have offered no arguments. You are a weak debater, chris, and your tricks dont work on me.

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I am sorry I am not learning Sioux or Cheyenne, I just wont do it.

I am part of the majority, tho (mostly) I am a a Caucasian male from Europe.

If they offered enough money I would say let the tamils maybe have their own jurisdiction, but still be a part of our nation, but with suicide bombers... NEVER IN YOUR FRIGGIN LIFE.


He utterly crushed you Red_Rooster.

The point remains, if 50% of the government is one race which makes up a sliver of the population, they are over-powered. There is going to be a whiplash against that. The Baathists in Iraq knew it was coming, they were abusive also, like the Tamils. Fortunately that has mostly petered out now.


Your weak, your bitter, and you wont see why we would never support the Tamils, nay we would even gladly go forth to help AGAINST the Tamils.

If they ever get a nation via force, I will push for an invasion and destruction of that nation, as well as the death of every soldier and politician of that nation, and the returning of it to Sri Lanka.


All this because the Tamils used suicide bombers.

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Im glad we don't have a conservative nutjob like u in office big_smile good luck huh?

But seriously, your the one who is bitter. you have failed to prove how suicide bombing is any worse than fighting conventionally. Any organization that does not have the power to fight conventionally is obviously going to resort to asymetrical warfare.

Einstein, you just make general sweeping statements with no support at all. I feel like an idiot for actually bringing evidence and LOGICAL reasoning while all ur statements are just personal opinions with no logic at all. you might as well be saying there should be no tamil eelam because they like vanilla ice cream and u like chocolate ice cream. You are nonsensical.

Good day i am not returning to this thread unless ur next post is one that has some kind of logic in it. Just saying "suicide vests are bad" aint gonna cut it.

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Actually I do hold an office, and I am running for a higher office. I am in talks right now to assist some candidates also, who like my moxy.


I showed, and I swear you are avoiding it like the plague, more so than you ever accused Chris of avoiding something, how you can do asymmetrical warfare and not directly target innocents.

Please do go away terrorist supporter. I do not want to see you in this game again, cause you make me want to choke a tamil just talking with you.

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you go on and on and on about how natural and sweet it is for ethnic assholes to be terrorists, and somehow my own pure and human urge to bomb the shit out of them is something abhorrent and unnatural?  I assure you it profits me nothing to bloody my hands with arms to SLA.  It's just the right thing to do.   

Guess what, blow up old ladies and get hit with the shoes of Global Authority.

Let me know which points you raise are really horseshit so I don't waste your time shooting holes in them.

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i TOLD YOU... the LTTE way of violence against civilians is a REACTION not an offensive ACTION. It is a REACTION to SLA bombing civilians. It certainly is frustrating speaking with a state terrorism supporter.

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If the SLA was bombing civvies then you should have bitched to Republicans about it as Dems wont help. Choose your allies wiser next time

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"I showed, and I swear you are avoiding it like the plague, more so than you ever accused Chris of avoiding something, how you can do asymmetrical warfare and not directly target innocents. "

ok it was hard to take u seriously when u said u cud single handedly pull $1 trillion of damage using ur methods. But assuming its realistic, which it is not, you are still missing the point of putting bombs in marketplaces... LTTE wants the people to put pressure on their government to just end the war by giving tamils a separate state. If you destroy railroads it means nothing to the ordinary citizen. So what? He is not going to be able to see uncle Jadsfeafsdnkjsdr that summer... If he fears for his life when he goes to buy vegetables, THEN thats a whole different story.

Sorry but war is awful and i support fully what the LTTE does because of waht has been done to the tamil population and because they deserve a separate state.

You cannot prove why they should not have a separate state and you cannot prove that it is OKAY for state terrorism to take place unchallenged.

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That makes presssure to kill tamils, and to stigmatize them... you are fail.

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Nope... it worked for them for 30 years until all the countries including india and china started supporting SLA with high tech airplanes and ships.

Learn please...

Freedom is never given, it has to be fought for and won. If LTTE fought like washingtons army they would have been wiped out in a couple months. They fight a guerrilla warfare and they use suicide vests just to terrorize the people a little bit. Who are you to tell me this is wrong? The U.S. and great britain carpet bombed whole cities day and night. Do you mean to say they were not targetting civilians? Oh right... they were just targetting the factories where civilians work.

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"Freedom is never given, it has to be fought for and won."

Guess Sri Lanka has won its freedom from affirmative action layoffs gone postal.

"If LTTE fought like washingtons army they would have been wiped out in a couple months."

That's what they said about Washington before he won.

"They fight a guerrilla warfare"

Mao would kick you in the nuts for that lie.

"and they use suicide vests just to terrorize the people a little bit. Who are you to tell me this is wrong?"

The grinning asshole with the blood on his hands.  Hi.

" The U.S. and great britain carpet bombed whole cities day and night. Do you mean to say they were not targetting civilians? Oh right... they were just targetting the factories where civilians work."

Mustard gas doesn't hurt factories.  We didn't use it.

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a bit random mebbe, but i was reading this book and the terrorists in question used cyanide bullits o_O
there werent any wounded to tend to afterwards, even ppl with fleshwounds died hmm

i believe that s illegal irl as well smile

till the end of time..

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it would be considered a chemical attack

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[ter-uh-riz-uhm]

hmmm, looks like some kind of redneck pronounciation there...

However I pronounce it, I keep pronouncing the uh as an oh hmm

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