1,076 Reply by hummy

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 49 ~

Jeeze, one atk and 12 banks, I should be so lucky, lol, just kidding.

I see where you are coming from. The new rules on solders and droids made alot of us change play. I usta have droids only, but now need and use soldiers for defense.

Congrats to you for not giving up, and deleting, like so many true losers I can name. Being the only atk can suck, or can be really neat, depending on circumstances.

Going for NW? I see that as valid as going for PC or score. NW is one of the three values we use to see who won.

Eh, we all look down on "infra whores", but should we really?

We all build infra. It is necessary to play.

One fam avoids conflicts, and spends their time and res on infra, and they are "infra whores"?  Jeeze. Different strats for different folks.  Good diplo to avoid wars and conflicts, and we look down on them? We diss them?

Seems stupid to call folks "infra whores" when you could just as well (and dont) call others "atk whores"

Infra whores seem to spend alla their time building infra, Atk whores seem to spend all their time on fleets and atks.

So, you are all whores, lol.

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 49 ~

hummy, I wasn't an attacker but I wasn't quite a resourcer either, I guess I was kinda in the middle for most of the round. I was more attacking closer to BoR when I was more active and we had Awexome's income as well as BoredHuman's, which meant we could afford fleet rebuilds. You are as good an example as any of this with our scuffle over 10,59 or whichever system it was (I'm assuming I'm allowed to post co-ords now the round is over? smile) Realistically though, you should have walked all over me then, coz I had a small fleet relative to my networth - you were breaking my portals without any problem, should have kept going rather than make our nap/cf agreement smile
Master was our attacker, along with a couple of later randoms, and I took on another random as my banker but he stayed below me in NW till the last couple of weeks when I got hit by 55, 51 and someone else pretty hard, which killed my fleet, so I just concentrated on resources then. So I was one of those infra whores you were talking about

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 49 ~

reading ur lines hummy it seems u did efforts to swap roles during the round, wich makes you a complet player, so no point in question ur skills.

And as i told bfore about banker strats or resources or whatever, they never have to be taken as fixed strats bcause change happens during the round and you have to adopt the role needed at every single time.

As for bankers, and to clarify definatly, a banker doing retakes is better than a banker not doing retakes??? well it depends.
It depends on the fam size and setup for the round. If you have several active attackers, you can jump someones fleet to be agressive at war and keep other attacker's fleet medium sized just to do retakes, that gives the banker a good advantage in income bcause he only have to pay soldiers (example: s400 triumph in 2154).
In the other side we have a family with only one active attacker and/or resourcer, then the banker needs to build a considerable fleet to retake and KEEP the planets, and even do direct attacks on enemy bankers, which reduces his income and enlarge his planet count (example: Me in 2155, I was always with low morale for all the round, I took more than 400 planets from MOTO and kept them by stationing). Keeping a fleet with figs and bombers forces you to an 'offensive' role and forget about OB bcause you have to care for your attacker so he can clean the MANY shares you have with enemies to keep ur status. It is like a rolling drill, you cant have res enough to be a top banker and you have many risky shares to even think about it, I mean if you decide to grow your infra and forget about doing your attacker strong then you are bond to lose all the infra in the shares your attacker couldn't clear.

So you see it all depends on fam size and setup, a banker doing retakes is great for a small fam, a banker not doing retakes is great for a big fam to maximize profits. And this said is also true for resourcers, a PURE resourcer is excellent if you have a big fam to support him, but most of the times a resourcer has to act as attacker and should do retakes too.

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1,079 Reply by hummy (edited by hummy 29-May-2009 21:38:19)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 49 ~

> SilverBullet wrote:

> hummy, I wasn't an attacker but I wasn't quite a resourcer either, I guess I was kinda in the middle for most of the round. I was more attacking closer to BoR when I was more active and we had Awexome's income as well as BoredHuman's, which meant we could afford fleet rebuilds. You are as good an example as any of this with our scuffle over 10,59 or whichever system it was (I'm assuming I'm allowed to post co-ords now the round is over? smile) Realistically though, you should have walked all over me then, coz I had a small fleet relative to my networth - you were breaking my portals without any problem, should have kept going rather than make our nap/cf agreement smile
Master was our attacker, along with a couple of later randoms, and I took on another random as my banker but he stayed below me in NW till the last couple of weeks when I got hit by 55, 51 and someone else pretty hard, which killed my fleet, so I just concentrated on resources then. So I was one of those infra whores you were talking about


I dont remember which system, (I worked the 10,50s as hard as I could.) But I do remember the atks, and being surprised at  how easily I took down your ports with atks. Being the player I am, I simply assumed I had hit you when fleet was stned or out for atks, so I worked a bit faster to beat your recalls, lol. Yes, I shoulda kept on, and woulda kept on, but our ldrs agreed to a cf or nap or whatever, and I had to stop. I really didnt have a choice, but to honor the agreement.

Ha, I blame  the ldr, but it coulda been because of me. Whenever we took 10%+ of some fams planets, I started to argue for a nap.  I do have some small sense of honor.

Eh, infra whore/atk whore, you/we are all whores of some nature. I think it is stupid to lable folks infra whores. I think a fam who uses diplo to avoid conflict, and spends time on infra, has a valid strat. I see no reason to look down on those who are skillful at diplo, and dont have to fight. I did not mean to offend anyone with my rant about that.

Bankers (farmers/pure res) are all infra whores. They have to be. Where else but from infra, does all that cash/food/res come from? I suggest we just stop using the term.

Me, now I am an atk whore. I always want to atk. I always want fleet, as soon and as fast as possible. I am addicted to atking. Even when I am a Rev CF/TO, I cant help but to atk, lol. Not retakes, mind you, but atks. (even tho I know better.)

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1,080 Reply by [Bullet] (edited by SilverBullet 29-May-2009 21:46:19)

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Re: ~ Pretenders Vs. Contenders Pinwheel Round 49 ~

hummy, sounds like you need to visit #attackersanonymous in Irc, they may be able to help with your habit
i have no problem with being labelled an infra whore, its only offensive if you find it offensive, and personally i don't see how it is offensive. yes, its called imperial conflict, not imperial economy or whatnot, but the nap option is there for a reason smile

EDIT: w00t, top of page smile

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1,081 Reply by hummy

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"reading ur lines hummy it seems u did efforts to swap roles during the round, wich makes you a complet player, so no point in question ur skills"

TY. And, thanks for the rest of the post.

I have played every possible role (I think) except pop bank. I think the only races I have played are Rev and Custom. (tho I do think I would be successful at others, and want to try em sometime.)


I do understand the fluidity, and situationallity of the game concerning roles.

One of my favorite quotes goes something like this: Even the best laid battle plans do not survive the first contact with the enemy.

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1,082 Reply by hummy

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Woot, woot!!! I got top o page!!

(wait a minute. Why am I so excited about this? Duh, just cause others seem to be? Crap!)

Lol, I am going to delete a really old post, so every one at top of page, will now be at the bottom, lol.

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