26 Reply by Schniepel (edited by Schniepel 16-Jan-2009 10:53:26)

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"I don't understand why there is sooo much opposition to the development of missile shield technology.  if we could perfect a weapon system that could neutralize nuclear weapons in flight then wouldnt that make the proliferation advocates happy?  it would esentially eliminate the possibility of a nuclear holocaust.  all it would take would be weapons research."

the thing is that until now a nuclear holocaust was almost impossible because the consequences of a nuclear first strike are known to everyone.
russia wont nuke the US because they know it would end in their destruction also.. vise versa. nuclear balance..
now the missile shield takes this away and gives the US as only country in the world the option of a nuclear strike (if its perfected).
U as american will probablly support this.. biut for most other people in the world it is not the optimal sollution.
specially for every other nuclear power which the missile shield is castrating.

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27 Reply by Little Paul (edited by Little Paul 16-Jan-2009 11:26:25)

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Can't even believe nobody is talking about nuclear radiation or nuclear subs. What a retarded debate. Next to that no missile shield will stop all Chinese or Russian nukes. Stop dreaming. And one missile into the strat would cause enough damage already.

Such a missile shield will only stop a few nukes at best.

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Its not the nukes of WW3 that bothers me, its the Sticks and Stones of WW4. Just how sharp do you think the sticks will be?

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other rich countries can produce there own version of the missile shield.  However, the United States wants to cover its own allies with their shield.  so what is the problem.... as long as you're friends with the United States.

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can you think of any country that you would rather be subject to?  cuz either way your going to have to choose one of the big guys to protect you.  Most of europe has chosen the US... of course you can choose russia... but they wouldn't be nearly as nice.

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it's simple truth who better to be subject to than the United States.  I've heard that from my German Political Science professor many times.

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> Soth wrote:

> it's simple truth who better to be subject to than the United States.  I've heard that from my German Political Science professor many times.

You aren't going to AR are you?

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33 Reply by Soth (edited by Soth 16-Jan-2009 19:13:55)

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i was at AR last semester... you went there also?!?

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Yes I did a few years ago. I am now doing my last four years at a University.

And ahahaha. I know the German Political Science professor you're talking about.

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35 Reply by Soth (edited by Soth 16-Jan-2009 19:17:55)

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ya he was one of my favorite professors.  his lectures where a bit dry but i enjoyed his perspective.  I think that is why i like the politics forum on IC because of the wide variety of national perspectives here.

Wow, that is crazy that we went to the same school.  it was crazy enough that we live in the same state lol

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True, they were dry. Great guy though.

So did you go to AHS too?

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yep i went to AHS all 4 years

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38 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 16-Jan-2009 19:59:50)

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Zomg! This is getting so weired. I did too.

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wow lol what year did you graduate!?!

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2005 lol

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dude i was a sophomore from 2004-2005 lol wow maybe i knew you?

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Naw you didn't. The youngest people I talked to were the junior girls who spoiled me in exchange for academic help.

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no i didnt mean new you as in "buddies" but may have seen you around.  i understood the social divide pretty well wink

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44 Reply by Justinian I (edited by Justinian I 16-Jan-2009 20:41:42)

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Oic. You could have, I don't know. I'm a pretty low-key guy, so I probably wasn't very visible.

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well that is pretty crazy dude

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"I don't understand why there is sooo much opposition to the development of missile shield technology."

It implies a level of agression that most people are uncomfortable with.  The only reason to develope a missle shield against nukes in the current envrionment (understanding of mutual destruction) is if you intend to launch a nuclear strike.  It's like wearing a bullet proof vest in a room of people with guns, sure it's seems a reasonable precaution but it will give people the impression you intend to start shooting.

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Yeah it is, haha. We grew up in the same area and didn't know it. rofl

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