I'm gonna vote Eltara

let me explain myself
I don't think Nolio is mob, and i do think eltara is SK.

I do however think Nolio isn't doing much good for the town, so i might yet change my vote later on, but now i'm off to bed

Can someone please tell me why there are all these votes for Eltara. I have seen several people saying they think he should be lynched, but no-one has said why. Is he thought to be mob or SK? Also why do people think this?

Nolio seems very keen to be known as the cop, I have often spoken up for the cop (in fact last round, doing that hid the fact that i was doctor right until the very end) and if Nolio is not mob I think this will be a similar case here too. We know someone saved him, but who was it? Like Arnor said, they could be mob and mob special role.... clever plan but mob claiming to be cop has been done before....... hasn't it KT . If he is so obvious in giving us his role (or supposed role) does this mean he has someone lined up to save him again next night? I don't think the cop would just shout himself like that. Something is fishy here, I just don't know what yet. I wonder if the person who saved Nolio last night can also save him from a lynching?????

sheepeh? I've yet to see anyone put evidence up for sheepeh being mob apart from Nolio saying he didn't reply to a text message.... that doesn't wash with me.

At the moment Nolio looks like the best bet to vote for to me.

If someone can give me some real evidence as to why I should vote Eltara or sheepeh then I might be persuaded to change my vote, but at the moment....

I vote sexy Nolio.

i vote Nolio!

some recent intel i got, makes him way too suspicious imo.

i doubt eltara is town, going by what i seen in the past mafia threads coupled with what people say are normal, eltara is most likly mob. 

ES there is no proof either way, at least not enough for me yet.

Oh I got some proof too. Check this out:

Session Start: Mon Dec 22 07:43:43 2008
Session Ident: arms
01[07:44] <Nolio> hey, are you mob? =o
[07:44] <arms> no
[07:44] <arms> and
[07:44] <arms> i can prove it!
01[07:45] <Nolio> lies!
[07:45] <arms> i swear on my unborn child
01[07:45] <Nolio> pfft!
[07:45] <arms> dont EVER EVER say to my wife that i said that btw
01[07:45] <Nolio> lol
[07:45] <arms> u mob?
01[07:45] <Nolio> no! X(
01[07:45] <Nolio> if I were, elro would die tonight =/
01[07:45] <Nolio> oh well
[07:45] <arms> lolol
[07:46] <arms> u what?
01[07:46] <Nolio> no I'm the doctor
[07:46] <arms> ure not just townie
01[07:46] <Nolio> which is stupid and boring
[07:46] <arms> lolol
01[07:46] <Nolio> are you townie? =o
[07:46] <arms> k save me tonight pls ^^
[07:46] <arms> yar
01[07:46] <Nolio> lies!
01[07:46] <Nolio> you're no townie!
[07:46] <arms> i am X(
01[07:46] <Nolio> prove it!
[07:46] <arms> erm
[07:46] <arms> i am X(
01[07:46] <Nolio> lol
01[07:47] <Nolio> I'm gonna tell the police to investigate you to make sure
01[07:47] <Nolio> I'm in contact with both of them
[07:47] <arms> oh kewl
01[07:48] <Nolio> you can trust me
[07:48] <arms> do that pls
01[07:48] <Nolio> so who ever I tell you to vote for
01[07:48] <Nolio> just vote with me
[07:48] <arms> hm ok
[07:48] <arms> well see that after first lynch
01[07:48] <Nolio> lol
01[07:49] <Nolio> kk but seriously though
01[07:49] <Nolio> I'm the other cop
01[07:49] <Nolio> and I don't want to be =p
[07:50] <arms> rofl
[07:50] <arms> rofl
[07:50] <arms> oh wtf
[07:50] <arms> why?
01[07:51] <Nolio> cause that means I can't push push push for people's deaths anymore X(
[07:51] <arms> just dont shut your mouth as usual and ull be good lol
01[07:51] <Nolio> lol
[07:51] <arms> mafia prolly thinks town will lynch u
[07:51] <arms> sec
[07:51] <arms> just so you know
[07:51] <arms> don't trust lyv
[07:51] <arms> he has the pro mob secret role
[07:52] <Nolio> how do u know lol
[07:52] <arms> he told me lol
[07:52] <Nolio> omg lol
[07:52] <arms>  he said he knew i wouldn't kill him
[07:52] <arms> and he's right
[07:52] <Nolio> lol
01[07:53] <Nolio> hmm
01[07:53] <Nolio> oh
[07:53] <arms> so who do we investigate?
01[07:53] <Nolio> errr
01[07:53] <Nolio> good question =/
[07:54] <arms> 1. Amok
[07:54] <arms> 2. Arandur
[07:54] <arms> 3. arms
[07:54] <arms> 4. Arocalex
[07:54] <arms> 5. Chees
[07:54] <arms> 6. Decimus
[07:54] <arms> 7. Elrohir
[07:54] <arms> 8. Eltara
[07:54] <arms> 9. evilsheep
[07:54] <arms> 10. GeneralSkulls
[07:54] <arms> 11. Gratitude
[07:54] <arms> 12. Jets
[07:54] <arms> 13. KT
[07:54] <arms> 14. Lexuzis
[07:54] <arms> 15. Lynns
[07:54] <arms> 16. Lyvidian
[07:54] <arms> 17. Maarten
[07:54] <arms> 18. Nolio
[07:54] <arms> 19. The_Unknown
[07:54] <arms> 20. TMK
[07:54] <arms> 21. Wild Flower Soul
[07:54] <arms> 22. ZichtOpZee
[07:54] <arms> kt?
01[07:54] <Nolio> ok...
01[07:54] <Nolio> I was thinking that
[07:55] <arms> but?
[07:55] <arms> elro? ^^
01[07:55] <Nolio> lol no that's it, I was just thinking her
01[07:55] <Nolio> bah
[07:55] <arms> oh lolol
01[07:55] <Nolio> I cant comment
01[07:55] <Nolio> I still want him dead:p
[07:55] <arms> hehe
[07:56] <arms> ok so kt it is then
01[07:56] <Nolio> yeah I can go for that
01[07:56] <Nolio> she usually doesn't die too fast and she can be somewhat useful
[07:56] <arms> kewl go pm them and ill pst in forum
[07:56] <arms> yar
01[07:56] <Nolio> kk I'll go send a message to arsy
Session Close: Mon Dec 22 08:59:08 2008

Session Start: Tue Dec 23 01:38:14 2008
Session Ident: arms
[01:38] Session Ident: arms (Localnet, Nolio) ([email protected])
[01:38] <arms> b00b
[01:38] <arms> lol
[01:38] <arms> nice 1st day hit lol
01[01:39] <Nolio> yep
01[01:39] <Nolio> I already talked to her
[01:39] <arms> lol
[01:39] <arms> rofl
[01:40] <arms> what did she say?
01[01:40] <Nolio> not much, just find her a mobster
01[01:40] <Nolio> or she'll kill deci lol
[01:40] <arms> rofl
[01:40] <arms> we kill her?
[01:40] <arms> or noe?
[01:40] <arms> not
[01:40] <arms> actually
01[01:41] <Nolio> lol
01[01:41] <Nolio> no she's good =p
01[01:41] <Nolio> she only gets one kill then she's townie
[01:42] <arms> oh
[01:42] <arms> wtf?
01[01:42] <Nolio> Scrooge is the SK =p
[01:42] <arms> hows that
[01:42] <arms> yar
[01:42] <arms> but
[01:42] <arms> she can kill townies at night
01[01:42] <Nolio> Jack Frost is a pro-town player who has the ability to kill one person during the night phase of the game. He can only do this once. After killing that person, he will become an ordinary nice elf.
01[01:42] <Nolio> =p
[01:43] <arms> oh
[01:43] <arms> thats not sk then
[01:43] <arms> lol
01[01:43] <Nolio> lol no
01[01:43] <Nolio> just a secret role
[01:43] <arms> [07:42:21] <Nolio> Scrooge is the SK =p
[01:43] <arms> X(
[01:43] <arms> X(((
01[01:43] <Nolio> =p
[01:43] <arms> so shes townie now?
01[01:44] <Nolio> no
[01:44] <arms> ah nm
01[01:44] <Nolio> she never used it yet
[01:44] <arms> lolol
01[01:44] <Nolio> lol keep up!
[01:44] <arms> i get it
[01:44] <arms> lol
[01:44] <arms> X(
01[01:44] <Nolio> I need a new partner!
01[01:44] <Nolio> lol
[01:44] <arms> nolio
[01:44] <arms> its 7:30 here
[01:44] <arms> and i woke up at 05:30 X(
[01:44] <arms> so stfu
01[01:44] <Nolio> lol
[01:44] <arms> ^^
[01:44] <arms> ok
[01:44] <arms> u told her u were cop btw?
01[01:45] <Nolio> yeah
[01:45] <arms> lol
[01:45] <arms> n00b
[01:45] <arms> what if they turn her?
[01:46] <arms> ass
01[01:46] <Nolio> lol
[01:46] <arms>
01[01:46] <Nolio> its unlikely!
[01:46] <arms> ok who do we vote for?
01[01:46] <Nolio> plus I can't just say
01[01:46] <Nolio> hey! I know your role!
01[01:46] <Nolio> trust me I'm Nolio!
01[01:46] <Nolio> =p
[01:46] <arms> true lol
[01:47] <arms> and we vote for?
01[01:47] <Nolio> I have no idea lol
[01:47] <arms> rofl
[01:47] <arms> actually
01[01:47] <Nolio> its gotta be a random vote though
[01:47] <arms> i like her idea of killing deci ^^
[01:47] <arms> hehe
01[01:47] <Nolio> lol me too
[01:47] <arms> im gonna vote for him lol
01[01:47] <Nolio> lol
[01:48] <arms> nah i think lyv is better option
01[02:10] <Nolio> I think I'll wait a while before I vote
01[02:10] <Nolio> I don't want to go right after you and make it suspicious:p
[02:10] <arms> yar good thinking
Session Close: Tue Dec 23 05:33:02 2008

Session Start: Tue Dec 23 07:56:52 2008
Session Ident: arms
[07:56] Session Ident: arms (Localnet, Nolio) ([email protected])
[07:56] <arms> omg
[07:56] <arms> listen
[07:56] <arms> listen
[07:56] <arms> listen
[07:56] <arms> listen
[07:56] <arms> listen
[07:56] <arms> listen
01[07:57] <Nolio> =O
[07:57] <arms> [13:54:41] <Parrot> u mob?
[07:57] <arms> [13:54:48] <arms> no lol
[07:57] <arms> [13:54:54] <arms> i never am
[07:57] <arms> [13:54:55] <Parrot> i am santas helper
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:01] <arms> lol lies
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:04] <Parrot> i am
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:11] <arms> wtf is that?
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:14] <arms> cop?
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:22] <Parrot> investigator
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:25] <arms> yar cop
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:28] <Parrot> yeah
[07:57] <arms> [13:55:33] <arms> hm
[07:57] <arms> hes such a n00b omg
[07:57] <arms> rofl
01[07:57] <Nolio> lol
01[07:57] <Nolio> wow
[07:57] <arms> go change to him pls
[07:58] <arms> [13:55:38] <arms> and i know this how?
[07:58] <arms> [13:55:47] <arms> who did u investigate?
[07:58] <arms> [13:55:51] <Parrot> i wonder!!!
[07:58] <arms> [13:55:52] <Parrot> FFFFFFFFFFFFF
[07:58] <arms> [13:56:03] <arms> who?
[07:58] <arms> [13:56:09] <Parrot> take a guess
[07:58] <arms> [13:56:13] <Parrot> eltara dun dun dun
[07:58] <arms> rofl
01[07:58] <Nolio> =o
[07:58] <arms> omg such a n00blet
[07:58] <arms> lolol
[07:58] <arms> he'll learn ^^
[07:58] <arms> go change vote to him pls
01[07:58] <Nolio> lol I don't know
01[07:58] <Nolio> I'm scared:p
[07:58] <arms> go
[07:58] <arms> X(
[07:58] <arms> atleast we have a reason
[07:58] <arms> X(
01[07:59] <Nolio> lol go tell somebody else to do it:p
01[07:59] <Nolio> they'll kill me!
[07:59] <arms> lol
[07:59] <arms> wtf
[07:59] <arms> goooooooooo
[07:59] <arms> no time
[07:59] <arms> lol
01[07:59] <Nolio> lol
01[07:59] <Nolio> oh you so owe me
[07:59] <arms> lol
[07:59] <arms> pls lol
01[07:59] <Nolio> ok X(
[08:00] <arms> yar X((((
01[08:01] <Nolio> lol yep
01[08:11] <Nolio> ok I better had picked the right person:p
[08:12] <arms> lol
[08:12] <arms> i think we did
[08:12] <arms> lol
[08:12] <arms> erm
01[08:12] <Nolio> lol
[08:12] <arms> wanna investigate ******?
01[08:13] <Nolio> yes =p
[08:13] <arms> lol k
[08:13] <arms> when we find mobster we get kt to kill ?
01[08:14] <Nolio> yep
01[08:23] <Nolio> w00t!
01[08:23] <Nolio> good job
[08:24] <arms> hehe
Session Close: Tue Dec 23 08:48:59 2008

Session Start: Wed Dec 24 01:47:15 2008
Session Ident: arms
[01:47] Session Ident: arms (Localnet, Nolio) ([email protected])
[01:47] <arms> u can tell me what ***** turned to be?
01[01:49] <Nolio> he was telling the truth =o
01[01:49] <Nolio> he's the backup
01[01:49] <Nolio> well doctor now
[01:56] <arms> eh
[01:56] <arms> i knew it
[01:56] <arms> lol
[01:56] <arms> i told him to save me X(
01[01:56] <Nolio> hahaha
01[01:56] <Nolio> that bastard
01[01:56] <Nolio> he killed you!
01[01:56] <Nolio> its his fault
[01:58] <arms> yup X(
01[01:58] <Nolio> lol
Session Close: Wed Dec 24 02:48:05 2008

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I see little reason to believe your side from those logs, Nolio... You knew about the Jack Frost apparently, and she died....... You seem to know about arms, and he died.... How does that speak for you?

Current scores!

Nolio - 7 (The_Unknown, Eltara, WFS, Santa, Jets, TMK, Lynns)
Eltara - 4 (Lexuzis, Arandur, Amok, Maarten)
evilsheep - 3 (Nolio, General Skulls, Chees)

Still to vote:  Decimus

"it clearly states in the logs that arms and I were cooperating together in the cop forum -_-"

It only implies, it doesn't explicitly say so..

lol Whatever you say. You're just looking for loopholes to put up an argument. It's pretty obvious to anybody with any sense. Arnor you're mob. Evilsheep is godfather. Its sooooo obvious. I hope the Sk gets you next.