Just a last thought.... I have been making quite a lot of noise and drawing attention to myself by making theories and accusations. Would it be a good idea for a mobster to draw attention to themself or stick their neck out by accusing someone who hadn't previously been accused?

I don't know what arms has or hasn't done to deserve a vote.

I'm going to bed now, not sure I will get chance to check back in the morning so I'm going to have to vote for Sunstorm. I'm not convinced he is mob but I think I am in danger, I definitely am not mob and he is the only other person I know who might be in danger.

Ill try and log on in morning to check votes but for now i will have to vote one of you guys

There is still far too little evidence to back up any choice of pick now, however it was a close call between lex and sunstorm last time although i am still not sure wether he is mafia..

On the other hand, A10 would have had the chance to investigate one member of the list he wrote down before he was killed.. Out of the current people i think are mafia, sitting duck is top of that list..

For now my vote lies with him, but i will check on in the morning if i am able..

"You got me beat" his opponent laughingly said as he dropped to the floor. A10 smiled and turned around to place his sword back into the rack. Suddenly he got grabbed by his opponent and knife was place against his throat. "I don't like to lose" he said and he slit A10's throat. The traitor grinned as quietly left the room."

ZOMG

"I don't like to lose"

that's from Wrath of Khan!  James T. Kirk is mafia!!!!

nooooo

I am voting ARMs

I vote Genesis....

he's mob half the time

Im stickin with my gut, and voting glad again

Okay, I have three things/theories to say here...just my observations of whats going on.

Firstly ...

I actually like the A10 theory.  The fact that we know he was a Knight, stands to reason whoever he investaged, theres a high probablity that he would have placed them in his 'mob' or 'not mob' role.
- If he investigated by chance a townie, then that would prove Humidity is a townie, who is next on the list (after himself).  Unless Humidity is GF (would show him innocent).
- If by chance he discovered a mob, that would stand to reason that SD is a mob.  Thats probably one of the only few things we have to go on here.

Ofcourse this assumes that whoever he investigated,  he'd put first on the list (big assumption intself).

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Secondly,

I am not sure if Sunstorm is a mob.  If he was a mob, he wouldnt have promoted voting Lex with such vigor.  Otherwise if Lex turned out to be a townie (which he did), it would prove that Sunstorm is mob.  He's smarter than that, so wouldnt push the lex being mob so hard.  Granted he wasnt the first one to start with the lex thing either (could have just hopped on that bandwagon) - so theres still a little bit of ambiguity.

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Thirdly,

Theres a bit more information come to light for me.  And this is purely hypothetical.  Earliar myself and Lynns and HolyEmpire were talking to Arnor about how we found it stupid that Arnor gets killed without any input.  ANd for us, it sucks even more this round, since he turned out to be a townie (ie killed by traitors rather than SK).  This heads towards mafia winning again, and makes it quite annoying.

Anyway, this is a conversation we had...I was proposing an idea to switch the first  day and night to allow a bit more input (so that 2 ppl dont get killed off immediately with no action in gameplay - not sure if this is possible or not).

[21:02] <Arnor> but that's not really anything they grant me.
01[21:02] <+Torqez> ya
[21:02] <+Lynns> lex was a big part of the last game being cancelled
01[21:02] <+Torqez> i have the same sentiments
[21:03] <+Lynns> and that i didn't like
01[21:03] <+Torqez> for eg i wouldnt have voted grat to die
01[21:03] <+Torqez> cos he got killed first night
01[21:03] <+Torqez> and on the first night/day ...when its so unsure, and id have no reason to vote otherwise...i wouldnt vote for someone who was voted off early
[21:03] <+Lynns> now i need to get ready for work
[21:04] <+Lynns> have good days/nights people, i'll see you later
03[21:04] * Lynns is now known as Lynns_Working
01[21:04] <+Torqez> bye bye
01[21:06] <+Torqez> hey Arnor..
01[21:06] <+Torqez> how about some kind of system
01[21:06] <+Torqez> where 2 ppl dont need to die for no reason when the game starts
01[21:07] <+Torqez> ie, have the day first...(one option)
01[21:07] <+Torqez> maybe ppl can just randomly start talking and stuff
01[21:07] <+Torqez> i dont know the game mechanics tho ...so i could be proposing something completly taboo
04[21:07] <Arnor> torqez, it ought to be a fair system
[21:08] <+HolyEmpire> have the mods make names for everyone
01[21:10] <+Torqez> no =/
[21:10] <Arnor> oh no
[21:11] <Arnor> that would be overcomplex
01[21:11] <+Torqez> indeed, and ruin gameplay if u didnt know who was who
[21:11] <+HolyEmpire>
[21:11] <Arnor> exactly
[21:11] <Arnor> and the whole purpose of this channel.
01[21:12] <+Torqez> how about having day first?
[21:13] <+HolyEmpire> in that case arnor should just change his nick and start over
01[21:13] <+Torqez> like i said, i dont know how the game is played - so dont know if thats an option or not
01[21:14] <+Torqez> but not much is revaled during the first night, which makes ppl vote either way during the day
[21:14] <Arnor> HolyEmpire, it's ok
01[21:14] <+Torqez> so it would make ssense from a 'fair' point of view to have the day first - that way ppl can talk about the game
[21:14] <Arnor> I just keep watching from the sidelines
[21:16] <+HolyEmpire>
[21:17] <+HolyEmpire> well it was fun playing with ya

..from this... I had a feeling of inclination that HolyEmpire was not showing any remorse.  Obviously if he was mafia, he was instrumental ini getting Arnor killed off.

Now, going back to see the Day 1 lynchings....i see holy voted arms first for no apparent reason (not sure why, still speculating here).  But later, I see after people were splitting between lex and sunstorm....it was getting real close (likee 8-9 or something).  Why didn't holyempire switch his vote to anyone? Maybe he wasn't online in time (though imo there was plenty of time available).

However.....thers another possibility.  Because it was getting close, if HolyEmpire had changed his vote he could potentially have a deciding vote.  If he had the deciding vote and they turned out to be a townie (which according to my 2nd theory, both could be townie) - he would only IMPLICATE himself.  So why bother changing his vote, and showing that he switched to a townie.

I know it could potentially sound far fetched - but For this reason and in light that we do not have much else to go on, I'm gonna put my vote for HolyEmpire.

i vote sitting Duck, for obvious reasons, however i just like to point out that IM NOT MOB, and when i die you should all go and count ppl that voted me...

I vote randomly for humoidity, ppl have been talking about him....

no time to do anything i hvae an appointment in 10 mins

see you all later

SittingDuck - 4 - (ZoZ, Humidity, Gratitude, Arms)
Sunstorm - 3 - (Ilfirin, Eltara, SittingDuck)
HolyEmpire - 2 - (Torqez, Gladiator)
Arms - 2 - (HolyEmpire, Jets)
Gladiator - 1 - (Undeath)
Humidity - 1 - (Lynns)
Genesis - 1 - (TMK)
Jesnt - 1 - (Chees)

Still to vote: Genesis, Jesnt, RockOn, Sunstorm, TU

arms you know why I am voting you