26 (edited by Gladiator 14-Sep-2008 03:01:02)

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yes

lets do what conservatives say

don't give a f[mod] about anyone in america, and save iraqis

w00t w00t

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Wouldn't it be ok if you did your job as a parent and have school help you do it as well?

While you may think you know everything and feel extremely confident in your awareness, it's a good thing to let others into your life and that of your family so you can have a more broadening view of the situation(s).

Or is that a threatning predicament?

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Yeah when their broader view is that its ok to end high school not knowing algebra and pregnant

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Do you think any teacher lecturing sexual education will say it's ok to get pregnant, unless it's actually planned and accepted?

Or are your Sex Ed contents screwed up yikes

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Oh,  I got it Genesis.

It takes a Villiage to raise a child ...... isnt that it ?


I belive in the old fashioned way of raising a child.  With Parents actually teaching right and wrong.  Not a young socialist fresh out of university.... that has chosen the noble field of elementary or pre-school educator.

How about we just ship off our children to the state ?? 
Isnt that really the goal ?

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
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BW, I do agree parents should be responsible in and for their children's education. Regardless of what classes they take at school, parents will always be the ones who hold their children up to the values and morals they pass upon them.

That's not what Sex Ed is about. Sexual Education is about letting the young adolescents know of the dangers they face when they have sex. You know as well as I do that kids all over the world are starting their sexual life much earlier than ten years ago, and it doesn't look like it'll stop anytime soon. The idea is not to encourage them further, it is make sure that if they choose to do it, then at least they do it safely and fully aware of what might happen.

There is no way you can conceal sex from kids anymore. They have internet, and if you don't then they will see it at some friend's. If what you mean by raising your children is making them fear sex, then it won't work well at all. You can tell them what you think and the way you'd like them to handle it, but you can't stop them from knowing about it. It's that simple.

If you think that's a socialist approach(?), I guess. I'm just looking at reality.

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Meaning accept that 12 year olds will disobey their parents and the law and so a cool teaher should help them.

In the mong run it would be better if a 12 year old who tried for nookie was beaten to a pulp--no disease, no teen mothers. And that is why 12 year old used to keep their pants up, society cared more about doing the right thing and less about being civilized

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

33 (edited by Genesis 14-Sep-2008 04:55:00)

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Teachers are not supposed to help students have sex. If they do it they should be severely punished. The goal is to inform and educate, not to facilitate sexual intercourse. Besides, don't you think kids ask their teachers about these things already? I worked at a school last year as a member of a NGO and all Sciences teachers told me they got drilled with sex related questions in their classes. It's amazing you think this subject can be kept as a taboo.

And if you think the best way to raise kids if to beat them up... hmm

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Was the point missed that this was about Kindergarten ?  5 and 6 year olds ?
I mean.... it used to be high school, health education.

Now, its all the way to "Avoiding Sexual Predators" in Pre-School ?

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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Oh of course, we mustnt bruise somebody's ass. They would grow up thinking people bigger than them are threatening!

Far far better that they get gonorrhea and pregnant and street race and drink and huff glue. That is the price of a mature humane society-- dead kids.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Yell: beating someone is admitting you failed to communicate. Hence it accomplishes nothing but imposing your view. Would you be surprised if I told you kids take it to the streets because of beaters rather than talkers? I think a slap or two is acceptable, just can't be standard.

BW: Totally missed it yikes Is that being campaigned for? Sex contents in kindergarden is pushing it tongue Got a link?

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hehe....

Genesis, do you have children ?  do you have Teen age Children......are you a teen ager ?

ROFL.

Come .......joust w/the master.
I'm always Right.   You are just intellectually Left.....behind.
Individual patriot, and a REAGAN Conservative.

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Parents are supposed to impose their views

"Don't steal"
"Don't screw a 14 year old"
"Don't hack school computers"

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

39 (edited by Gladiator 14-Sep-2008 10:47:07)

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i didn't catch up with the latest posts

but a little something BW, you as a parent probably wouldn't understand this or will try to reject this,
but me as someone who was under my parent's guidance not too long ago
I can tell you that i probably payed more attention to my teacher at times than i did my parents
and it's the same case with almost all my friends and teens in north america
believe it or not, teens don't listen to their parents too much
and believe it or not, at the end of the day a lot of teens are still guna have sex, unless you either cage them or home school them OR
you teach(at school and at home) them about sex, the dangers, the responsibilities and safe sex
this way, they are brought up knowing all the dangers and responsibilities that go with sex and chances are they won't have it if they are taught from an earlier age...

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Damn, you guys are almost as good as the media in distorting the truth.

The sex education ad problem is not about parents or state. This IS the real debate.

The ad problem is about vountarily using the common understanding of "sex education" for 99% of the people, and link it to the kindergarten thing, which is about abuse. This is WRONG.

Just like Palin being grilled over the "Bush doctrine", to which 99% of the people would react the same way, aka "wtf do you mean?". This is WRONG.

Geez, a little bit of objectivity please. Remember you're "all americans" (sometimes) and you're allowed to think by youreself.

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[Flame!]

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Golk the legislation obama signed onto called for age appropriate education for prevention of sexually transmitted diseases to students K-12. The "sex abuse" spin is a lie whipped up by Obama 2008.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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palin's a lie, whipped up by mccain big_smile

44 (edited by Genesis 14-Sep-2008 16:15:42)

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Flame? Isn't it what BW is doing? Edit? Now?

In any case BW, I was just making a comparison with that last remark of yours, which is intelectually sound. Very good. You are very witty and intelligent.

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Glad, if you don't go find the text of the IL state law in question then Ill post a link mon or tues. Its the facts not who you like that makes Obama the liar here.

Genesis
Oh jeez you expected to get away with that?  I ease up a fraction on you animals and out come the fbombs and the eugenic flames.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Yell, I won't go into the debate about Obama implication in this, check this to confirm/debunk: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

Whatever position you would have after that, I find it pretty difficult not to admit that "Obama

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My point is that the new blood injected inside the republican strategists are going way too far in attacking stuff such as the lipstick thing, this sex education ad or the wolves bs.

In "too far", I mean that McCain is probably reluctant to go for that stuff, it's not his kind of fight.

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Golk you have to admit though
all of obama's attack ads are things McCain and his campaign have said or admitted
and his ads have only shown those quotes in a meaning they can be taken in
and were probably intended in that meaning by the mccain campaign

where as, McCains ads are all lies, on top of lies, on top of lies, topped by some lie icing

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Lets see..

There was "The One" where he showed Obama's celebrity status compared to certain starletts.

There was an ad of what Biden has said, what Hillary has said, and others have said about McCain and Obama... using factual video btw...

There was an ad about him going to a Gym, which used old imagery, but he stopped a visit with injured troops in Germany, which was factual, and did go to a Gym. He had also mentioned in the ad that Obama had not done hearings on Afghanistan and such as well. This is all true.


So now you just lost, with ease, your argument that they are all lies.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

and those aren't even the ones i have in mind,

and yeah sure, mccain throws in one or two, and says oh i'm not always lying, elect me, and i promise i'll only lie on wednesdays, thursdays, fridays and saturdays and sundays, don't worry i won't make your mondays worse,