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"You don't care that the US government has a history of funding and training terrorists who later bomb us, blaming Muslim extremism for the terrorists they created. You don't care that the rights we lose in response to bombings like this don't prevent bombings like this."

I agree with Kemp, however I am even more foolish konspiranoik than him, I dont think the 'government' is behind this at all, as they were not behind 9/11 either, the 'government' is only the ezternal pikture they want you to see, but sadly there are bigger powers that rule your kountry, and have the 'government' always to blame anyother (Al qaeda, Iran, Sadam, Osama, ..) and just keep those bigger powers in the dark (bekause they are the ones making them rizh, like it was proved with Bush family 'winning' a shitload of money after 9/11).


Now, nobody's sure who they are, same as nobody here is sure who planted the bombs and what's the reason behind it, and that's perfekt for the 'government' behind the kurtain, konfussion, that leads to fear. Right now, after the konfussion, a mainstream TV zhannel kan point the finger to any nation or group or person, that 90% of the people will believe it (and sadly Flint is in that 90%).

My konklussion, is this a false-flag operation? Nope, there are no targets at all to be destroyed. In NY 2001 one of the main objektives were important dokuments and intel that they needed to destroy (appart from employess of several 'marked' kompanies with delikated info). The big destruktion kovered important operations and assasinations in the basement, a huge kurtain of smoke!

Now, Boston kurtain of smoke is not big enuf, it has reperkution in all international mainstreams yes (despite only 3 viktims, when hundreds are killed daily in Syria or Irak) but it will not last enuf to kover an operation that lasts more than 2 days.  So the operation that this small kurtain of smoke is kovering must be some troop or weapon movement in the NK area, or something related to that.

2 Days ago in radio they were saying it was national north korean day, and ozzidentals were ezpekting some missile to be launzhed against SK or Japan.  There was no missile, but we have bombs in Boston, so 2 options:

1) Thay are some republikan fools with a poor planning, trying to light the fuse for several reasons, wahtever you kan imagine, against gay rights, but mainly against Obama rights

2) A real but small kurtain of smoke to kover a war strategikal move in Korea, performed by the 'goverment' in the dark, bekause they have their own plans, appart from Obama or whoever is in the whitehouse.  In this kase they kould be infiltrating agents for a magnizide and stealth operations to break down the military power and north korean infraestrukture and kommunikations.

3) We are forgetting about Venezuela, the less probable yea, but the operation kould be to infiltrate agents there against Maduro inkoming government.


They have the world looking at Boston for 2 days, while they're operating elsewhere to gain a strategikal spot for their nezt step, whatever their plans are.  This was not a flase-flag, the false-flag is yet to kome, so stay alert!

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Now watzhing the news, everybody shows prudenze, but still talk about nationals on patriot's day and mainly muslim eztremists, and I'm amazed how soon they forget waht they told this monday about NK national day. So

4) The bombs were artesanal artifakts, as if the terrorists wouldnt be able to do more damage bekause they lak the tezhnology or the infraestrukture to build stronger bombs.  That leads direktly to NK, and I think this is an option prezisely bekause nobody at TV news is talking about NK involvement in the bombing. Even tho the day before they aktively told NK would try to damage the USA in every manner.

http://internacional.elpais.com/interna … 85221.html

I post a link to a spanish diary bkause I've been reading US diaries and the info they show is aktively kut  (why I'm not surprised=?)

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They would use military grade explosives if it was an inside job,not blackpowder

The inmates are running the asylum

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Not really, if you want a shrapnel bomb then you only use a very small amount of high explosive and smokeless powder for the main charge.  If you use all high explosive the casing and shrapnel tend to be burst into dust.  That' swhat our military found with grenades.

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Either it was:

1.  Connected to NK or some terrorist group.
2.  Just some psychopath bomber acting alone.

Anybody who believes it was a false flag event is insane.

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...

Awww, come on, guys!  It was bad enough to see Render as the voice of reason around this thread.  But xeno?  Jeeez!  X(

(Edit: Wrong thread, initially.)  smile

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/me thinks there should be a "voice of reason" tag

/me asks mods to change tag to "voice of reason"

Einstein, Kemp,  I wonder, what do you think about me being the "voice of reason" on politics forum?

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... I hope that's a joke.

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I like how Terrorist groups and NK get lumped together Xeno - are you not concerned about the difference between NK, external (non-national) terrorists or internal terrorists? I think the difference is important, as it requires different responses.

1) NK as blame will make the world hold it's breath, as that possibly means war, with likelihood of some sort of nuclear war (dependent on if NK can get nukes anywhere near useful targets.)

2) External terrorists means status quo - America pushing wars in the middle east, creating as much resentment as "freedom" they "create"

3) Internal terrorists and the world exhales and America spends some time looking inwards.

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You_Fool wrote:

I like how Terrorist groups and NK get lumped together Xeno - are you not concerned about the difference between NK, external (non-national) terrorists or internal terrorists? I think the difference is important, as it requires different responses.

1) NK as blame will make the world hold it's breath, as that possibly means war, with likelihood of some sort of nuclear war (dependent on if NK can get nukes anywhere near useful targets.)

2) External terrorists means status quo - America pushing wars in the middle east, creating as much resentment as "freedom" they "create"

3) Internal terrorists and the world exhales and America spends some time looking inwards.

Hmm... Keen analysis, You_Fool...

I think #3 is least likely.  #1 second least likely (although possible).  2# Is the most probable case of the 3 you mentioned.  Most probable, however, I think is an individual, unaffiliated psychopath, or 2 of them - partners in some mutually-held delusion.

You know, like Kemp and Einstein's various mutually-held delusions, which to them just validate each others' absurdity. 

Yeah the more I think about it and read up on the evidence thus far presented in the media, I think, most probably, it was just two psychopaths like Kemp and Einstein.

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That is a possibility, though I wouldn't discount internal terrorism, from a "freedom fighter" type group within america that are upset with the direction america is going, with more liberal based legislation - i.e. Obama's re-election and the gay rights legislation that got voted in at the last election. My money is on a militant wing of the tea party - would make it hilarious the spam Flint normally parrots about the Tea Party not being violent...

During times of Democrat ascendancy in the US there tends to be an increase in internal terrorism/extremism - mid 90's etc...

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wow
A Marathon gets bombed,then someone sends poison letters to the president,then a chemical plant explodes,then there is  shooting and bombing at MIT in which one of the Marathon bombers gets shot by the police.

US turning into a Michael Bay movie

The inmates are running the asylum

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Yeah...  this is getting really bad...  I'd get on some live streaming news asap

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Ru … n_Marathon

http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/cnn-live-stream

http://www.zahipedia.info/2009/07/01/wa … live-free/

http://www.wwhdtv.com/watch-msnbc-live-streaming/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/wa … ws-6046305

http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews/pop-out

http://www.fancystreems.com/default.asp@pageId=6.php

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

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Multiple reports on reddit are saying suspect 2 is in custody - spam?  Or true?  If true, then reddit pwns livestream network news...although reddit is crashing, apparently due to all the users trying to get info.

The two bombers were from Turkey, of Chechnyan nationality, according to mainstream sources...

The guy who is still at large is Tsarnaez Dzhokar, age 19.

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They were Chechnyan refugees.

Our country is stupid accepting Chechnyans. They are a barbaric people, and they deserved what they got from Russia.

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Didn't know barbarians study engineering at Amherst

The inmates are running the asylum

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Attila the Hun was smart. Doesn't take away from the fact that he was a barbarian.

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I feel really sorry for the young guy.

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esa wrote:

wow
A Marathon gets bombed,then someone sends poison letters to the president,then a chemical plant explodes,then there is  shooting and bombing at MIT in which one of the Marathon bombers gets shot by the police.

US turning into a Michael Bay movie

....nothing making sense, stuff blowing up at random, you might be on to something - is Micheal Bay making a reality TV show?

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Justinian I wrote:

Attila the Hun was smart. Doesn't take away from the fact that he was a barbarian.


Attila was a nomad, doesn't make them barbarians.
they were actually quite civilized.

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its not really a surprise where they came from. islamic terrorist groups pray on the young and stupid and coerce them to do the cowardly acts they won't do themselves.  there is a huge islamic terrorist group presence in Chechnya.

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Valcona wrote:
Justinian I wrote:

Attila the Hun was smart. Doesn't take away from the fact that he was a barbarian.


Attila was a nomad, doesn't make them barbarians.
they were actually quite civilized.

He was a barbarian, why do you think they called him the "Scourge of God?" Secondly, nomads are not civilized by definition. Civilizations, first of all, need to settle in a fixed location.

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"He was a barbarian, why do you think they called him the "Scourge of God?" Secondly, nomads are not civilized by definition. Civilizations, first of all, need to settle in a fixed location.

I do not think that is the defining quality of civilization.  The use of the terms "barbaric" vs. "civilized" conveys the connotation that they have to do with propriety, or the extent by which people behave according to social norms.

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Anyway, they got suspect 2

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Justinian I wrote:

He was a barbarian, why do you think they called him the "Scourge of God?" Secondly, nomads are not civilized by definition. Civilizations, first of all, need to settle in a fixed location.

you are confusing agricultural with civilized.
He was called scourge of the gods because of their unbeatable tactics and warfare.

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