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Because they have absolute costs for rent, utilities and wages, yet the public is finicky about paying the price of a monthly movie service subscription to see a movie in a theater, when they can get it in 6 months as part of their subscription, along with every other movie shown.

Since the 1950s theaters have worked to sell the Theater Experience.

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" Currently in the real world, I can walk across the street to the coffee shop and buy coffee or the bar and get a drink."

You can't bring it into the theater.

Why doesn't the price that consumers are willing to pay for the 'Theater Experience' cover profit, rent, utilities, and wages?  Why do movies theatres have to resort to manipulating their clientele, infringing on their freedom, etc. to prevent the customer from bringing their own food into the theater?  Why do movie theaters have to resort to what is in effect anti-trust activity; what is in effect sabotaging the function of free market principles to get customers to pay huge markups at the concession counter?  i would contend that prices are so out of whack across many sectors due to the tendency for governments to permit such anti-trust activity like this which provides companies fodder for further justifications of their anti-trust activity!  A vicious cycle that needs to be broken.

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Why do we have to have movie theaters at all? Why not just get everything online? Why have movies in the first place?  Why does our society give you the electric power to read my questions?

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> The Yell wrote:

> Why do we have to have movie theaters at all? Why not just get everything online? Why have movies in the first place?  Why does our society give you the electric power to read my questions?

So you condone anti-trust activity based on the notion that it serves the greater good.

Yell, clearly YOU are a communist!

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Anti-trust activity is communist? On what planet? It's an asshole move, sure, but hardly commie

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> The Yell wrote:

> Anti-trust activity is communist? On what planet? It's an asshole move, sure, but hardly commie

Wow.  You really need to study up, Yell:

"Competition law, known in the United States as antitrust law, is law that promotes or maintains market competition by regulating anti-competitive conduct by companies.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-trust

The Key is 'anti-competitive' conduct, which the quintessential characteristic of the communist state which you have accused me of proposing.  Yet, you are the one condoning it, Yell.  You are calling for state-enforced cooperatives, state-run corporations in a state-planned economy for the pursuit of some grande notion of a greater good, where all prices are controlled and there is essentially NO competition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state

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I am and have always been calling for competition to provide for the equilibrium in price conducive to fulfilling the consumer's best interest.  Look around.  Are consumers' best inetersts fulfilled?  Are their basic needs met?  Why not?  Because, Yell, we are living in a world where corprations and governments collude to endorce anti-trust, unethical behavior for the interest of the producers - a defacto global communist state is where we are living, The Yell.  Wake up?

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Nope, troll.

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84 (edited by xeno syndicated 31-Jul-2012 19:34:55)

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The equilibrium in price in the new economic paradigm would be attained and maintained by your neighbor's decision to accept your offer of 2 heads of your garden's lettuce for 3 of his apples or his other neighbor's offer of 3 oranges for two heads of his other neighbor's lettuce.  This price equilibrium would be determined by your decision to trade your lawn-mower tractor for Jake's RV for the duration of your family vacation, because he can use your tractor to mow people's lawns in their neighborhood in exchange for their goods or services: other services: maybe Donny down the road (who has a little paint-producing operation) will have his teenage kid come by and paint a fence that needs painting, or Jason and Billy ( Karen's two boys) will come by and dig an irrigation ditch, or maybe we'll have them dig holes to plant apple trees.  He hasn't decided yet.  Maybe he'll have Mr. Lawson, the math teacher come by and tutor his kids because he himself knows he is too impatient to be a teacher.  Or maybe he'll have Dr. Smith come by and take a look at his knee which has been bothering him.  In exchange for your lawn-mower tractor, he can choose among the various goods and services the neighborhood's households produce.  Everyone has the opportunity to benefit by this diversity of goods and services available to them. This form of 'neighborhood barter capitalism' cannot be taxed by government, cannot be competed with by big corporations, and is the inevitable outcome of our current paradigm if greedy, unethical, anti-trust behavior by the elite continues.  There would be no tanks in the streets, no war, no revolution; just quiet, incremental shifts towards such an economic paradigm as more and more people find they are simply unable to afford an RV or lawnmower tractor, cannot afford to live in cities anymore and buy food at grocery stores, and have to move out to the sticks and grow their own food; an inevitable result of the sort of collapses we can expect from time to time under the current economic paradigm, which, people like you, The Yell, seem to WANT to continue.  Why do you want the current economic paradigm to continue, The Yell?  Is it because you profit by it so well?

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The one child policy for the rich is already in effect: they live in the cities.

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In other threads you have argued that taxation is inescapable, and that big government is necessary to confront big corporations.

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"Why do you want the current economic paradigm to continue, The Yell?  Is it because you profit by it so well?"

Yep, see I get MONEY and in return for this MONEY I can go on AMAZON.COM or EBAY.COM and buy just about ANYTHING somewhere in the world that takes American dollars.

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88 (edited by V. Kemp 31-Jul-2012 20:10:32)

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"Why is this?  Why can't they make money selling movie tickets?"

Maybe they can. But they do what will make them the most money.

Irrational people like you are more likely to go to the threatre if the ticket prices are low. Irrational people like you are more likely to buy overpriced concessions if low ticket prices get you there to begin with.

It is this way because of the psychology of stupid people. Theatres make more money with this model. Smart people like me bring in 6-packs and fast-food in their girlfriends' purses.

It's win-win. Smart people get cheap tickets and dumb people pick up the tab. Isn't this the biological evolution you support?

You're making a big deal out of something which is the result of free markets and human stupidity. It supports absolutely nothing of the nonsense you're spamming about here. That you think it does is just sad.

"The equilibrium in price in the new economic paradigm would be attained and maintained by your neighbor's decision to accept your offer of 2 heads of your garden's lettuce for 3 of his apples or his other neighbor's offer of 3 oranges for two heads of his other neighbor's lettuce.  This price equilibrium would be determined by your decision to trade your lawn-mower tractor for Jake's RV for the duration of your family vacation...."

Blah blah blah blah, huge wall of text, all nonsense like this. You're proposing an economic barter model (which we rejected because currency is mega useful) in which the price of lettuce is determined by a lawn-mower trade?

That's ridiculous. Additionally, implied in your example is a scarcity of goods we don't have now. Everyone who tries half hard for half their life can have all the lettuce and apples they want. They can invest in an RV when the time's right if they make good choices. Your example is predicated upon a presumption of poverty--a move backwards--and complete ignorance of the hassle and injustice present in a barter economy.

Why spam? Nobody can remain ignorant of why currency is awesome and barter economies suck. You have the internet. This is just more trolling.

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What's the mark-up on cinema popcorn?

Question
What is the mark-up on cinema popcorn? Surely it

Re: One child plicy for rich people

you could wear a guayabera shirt and sneak packs of candy inyour waistband

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"You see, a movie theater does not stay in business by selling movie tickets"

"Why is this?  Why can't they make money selling movie tickets?"

Sorry Xeno, I am not sure where your from but in the US the most of the proceeds from ticket sales go to the movie studios.  So when you see a movie like Batman do $100's of millions it goes back to the movie studios who spent $200 million to make the thing.  This link gives you an idea of how much a movie theaters cut is per ticket.... http://themovieblog.com/2007/economics-of-the-movie-theater-where-the-money-goes-and-why-it-costs-us-so-much/

You can see in the article that for some blockbuster movies, the theater makes $0 per ticket.  They show the movie to draw people in the theater in hopes to sell concessions.

So... do you want a $5 mark up on your movie ticket or a $5 market up on your popcorn?  The movie theaters have choosen to mark up the concessions instead of the tickets.

Your other idea that its wrong for them to disallow items brought in from the outside is... well it doesn't work as its the equivilent of walking into a fancy hotel and pitching a tent in the lobby so you can use the pool and facilities and stay for free.

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All I can say is that it's lucky Americans are such fat fat ass fat fat asses.

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i resemble that accusatiion

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Also it seems the cinemas need to unionise and go on strike for a better cut.

95 (edited by V. Kemp 31-Jul-2012 21:20:44)

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Why?

They're still in business.

Do production companies limit how much theatres can charge per ticket? This seems doubtful, since ticket prices vary by theatre. If this is not the case, production companies aren't determining their "cut" at all, just their free per ticket for admission to their movie.

Also, it seems that knowledge of the workings of free markets is required to critique them.

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Do production companies limit how much theatres can charge per ticket? This seems doubtful, since ticket prices vary by theatre. If this is not the case, production companies aren't determining their "cut" at all, just their free per ticket for admission to their movie.

I found the article pretty interesting,  theaters can charge what ever they want.  It works on percentages.  First week the studio gets pretty much the whole cut, as each week passes - the percentage changes giving @10% of a cut per week to the theater.  Using this model, you can see how different movie houses can charge differnt amounts for tickets but still need to fall back on concessions as a main staple of income.

On a side note, by having to research this - this is the first bit of useful information I have gleaned from a Xeno thread tongue

97 (edited by V. Kemp 01-Aug-2012 00:24:21)

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They could charge more per ticket. But people would object to that even more than they object to the snacks.

This stuff is why I mostly just watch on-demand movies from my throne. Often, $3.00 ones on sale. And often with company! tongue

I think a lot less people are going to movies in general now, though. There's SO much more access to movies via on-demand pay-per-view type programming, internet streaming, and even piracy. While that article is certainly informative and better than it is formatted (:)), I'm not convinced theaters can do anything about it.

In any event, we certainly learned nothing about such barbaric oppression as the thread is about. And thank Jeebus for that.

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"this is the first bit of useful information I have gleaned from a Xeno thread"

You really need more imagination.

"

In other threads you have argued that taxation is inescapable, and that big government is necessary to confront big corporations.
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It is, in the short term.

99 (edited by The Yell 01-Aug-2012 01:16:44)

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That's what Lenin said about the dictatorship of the Proletariat

Let me guess, the ideal society of sharing and free choice of the new paradigm lies beyond this period where we have high taxes and big government to counter big corporations and their tyranny -- it's a NECESSARY and INEVITABLE transition from the current paradigm to TRUE FREE MARKETS? huh? Hmm??

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" sharing "

It's not sharing.  It's not the the anarchistic stateless communism that Marxism aspires to as the final step.  No, this is capitalism, that is trade, just without fiat currency / monetary system that serve the interests of those in control of corporation-controlled states and state-controlled corporations.