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Net income 153
thats my income with -30% inc/growth
do that x11 = 1683 gc every tic
it makes a difference! 
Also the guy who explo the planets dont have to be the one to build on them, so no large empire costs are added.
116cf x 4,6 = 534 gc
the same CF's couldv made you
116x11= 1276 gc a tick more on your 50% banker. they just would be ready 6 ticks later.
and why the hell r you multiplying your net income x 11? wich cant even be that low if u HB your planet. did u destroy them?
Just lol at renders strat. terrible. if u need it explained why then i hope im never in a fam where youre running infra! Wow ... Spending ~15k in expo costs now just so the pop gives income... in 3 days lol, then openly saying someone else is gonna build on the planets to save empire ob costs and wipe the pop... even though the cost to send 10 fleets is higher than the empire ob would be.
Dear dear
to top it off ... building 115cf on a -30% income race to gain this "advantage" ?! Man i hope the round gets reset for your sake render 
ok lol dont ask me later how I did it
and yes I hope its reseted so I can do the complet strat wiht no tics missing
Render is right, there are 24 fams not using their heads right now, and the funny thing is they are the smug ones. Oh well.
And we did not copy you Render X(
/me hopes Render doesnt find the surveillance bugs in his hs.
on a lighter note how was 6290 able to get a fam name and pic with no leader?
Their leader deleted and rejoined.
well it seems obvious when you spell it out for me
and, anyone else think Render is just making this issue up? I didn't think so at first but after seeing his start strat i have my doubts now...
I mean really... Explo cost is the cheapest now? Really? I didn't know it changed on a per empire basis depending if your other family members have explored already... Just looks like you wasted 15k cash on sending 10 more explos then you needed to when you'll only get around 5 (at most unless they are really tiny) planets FB on your main banker. And you used resources/cash to build CFs on a -30% income player?
If you had made the CFs on a Quantum or Pax i'd understand a little more since you'd be gaining better income with them.
Really?
Really?!
did i mention really?
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gondor, stop telling people not to play noobie strats!
in the end there will be 30 different strategies, we shall see then.
no reset!
26
not 30 =0
If you restart it I will do with 33 planets this time to pwn even more
Gondor, of course explo costs are the cheapest now, unless you don't build infra in your HP (got it?).
All of you who have saved explos just because the planets will not be built this early, you know next time you want to explo you'll have to pay extra costs for your HP infra (at least). The only acceptable is the case where you have built RCs so you re-gain those extra gc with research (when building cheap).
Anyway, I cannot tell the strat is good now because of the missed tic, so when it finally fails I will blame the mods
Exploration costs are based on planet count, not on nw count so building infra on homeplanet should not increase the explo costs
Just
Ignore
Render
he will go on and on and on.. and then say ahh! the 1 miss tick killed my fam not my start strategy
the end.
yes TBO is right, ignore me
1 T-h-E=O-v-e-r-A-ll=P-r-0-j-e
1 Chinese (6278) [52,57] 23 26289 811 (+1)
2 Failure! (6282) [14,51] 23 25972 780 (+1)
3 the Elements (6271) [20,20] 23 25897 672 (+2)
4 USS VOYAGER (6273) [9,60] 23 25149 699 (+0)
5 T-h-E=O-v-e-r-A-ll=P-r-0-j-e
totally check my team going from 18th to 11th ha ha ^_^
^^
Go team stooges
Post eco lists instaid, nw says nothing so early.
bah to lazy for that, you have the data, just substract 800 per planet and do it yourself, we're ranked shit anyway
19 Garden of Eden (6283) [5,27] 23 18448 744 48
4 (6286) [44,33] 37 30747 840 1147
26 We take no Prisoners! (6291) [14,29] 3 5831 457 3431
24 ~Rogue Pirates~ (6281) [55,21] 13 15504 720 5104
13 cheatROCK (6274) [31,12] 21 22071 743 5271
12 Dynasty Warriors (6280) [36,27] 21 22955 693 6155
5 Team 22 ^_^ (6279) [40,49] 27 27913 794 6313
23 [BBB] PowerPuff Girls (6290) [25,31] 13 16813 615 6413
11 Monk Crew (6292) [9,9] 23 24965 727 6565
10 T-h-E=O-v-e-r-A-ll=P-r-0-j-e
Totally pointless list. Perfect example is the bottom ranked family with 3 planets saying they have better eco than a family with 23 planets.
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