Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

the polls favor Obama

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74723.html

Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

It is all trash talk for now tongue Will see how the election shapes up...which is when by the way?

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

Election is 1st Tuesday in November

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

Primo:
"that's funny, because so far all predictions i have heard are giving him pretty much a landslide."

This says more about you and what skewed news/polls you choose to view/hear/read than it does about the election. tongue While many polls show Obama with a lead, it's usually within the margin of error; and Republicans don't even have a candidate to coalesce around yet.

I'm not a Romney fan, Republicans are clearly bringing their B-game this year, and it's down right embarrassing to watch Gingrich cry like a baby about Romney's past work. But the rhetoric, messaging, and where energy is directed will be substantially different between now and when Republicans officially pick their nominee.

Everyone expects polls to change between this time and the election; it's a matter of how much, and which directions over which issues. People extrapolating on polls now all the way to the election w/o any expected changes, as messaging changes and in-fighting wanes, are an amateur minority.

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The Yell:
I don't want to be near them, I just don't want to waste money giving a damn what they do. You sound awfully concerned with their sexuality and drug use for someone who claims not to be into it!

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Justinian I:
" divide between social conservatives and those with libertarian tendencies. A coalition between them may overcome the Democratic party, but if social conservatives like you impose moral policing on us, then that coalition will break apart in the long-run."

Exactly.

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Firewing

Thank you for a ridiculously ignorant view on Israel and Iran! Calling Romney a rookie, while I don't disagree, is absolutely hysterical when you describe how _you_ think Obama is handling Iran and what _you_ think he'd do if he has a second term! A little humor always brightens my morning. Thank you, sir. smile

Again LULZ when you describe Obama's supposed advantage in dealing with North Korea. You presume that his first term inherently in-and-of-itself gives Obama an edge in knowledge and experience in dealing with foreign policy which Romney (again, not saying he'd be a superstar) would lack. Judging from Obama's performance to date, this is a good one to keep me laughing. He can't even manage not to disrespect the British (while embarrassing himself/us all)! Nevermind how naive, groveling, and ignorant he is with the rest of the world.

"4. The Revolutions in North Africa and the Middle East are still not finished. Most of the political action is behind the scenes there, so if the US-president is Obama or Romney is not important. "

Again you're spot-on and insightful. It's not like the billions the US gives Egypt annually, which Egypt wants to continue to receive, could be used to influence them in any way, shape or form. That's a silly notion! Billions of dollars aren't valuable nor useful.

"5. With the baby-boomers retiring the US, as most western nations, are faced with a challange for their social networks. Obama made a half hearted reform that took far too long to implement. But would Romey really destroy it or try to change it a bit? "

It's not a "reform" unless you redefine the word. I find this dishonesty offensive. Seeing as the healthcare law increases costs and puts rationing in the hands of an unelected federal panel of bureaucrats, let's hope Romney is elected, actually keeps his word, and "destroys" it. I like that word choice.

Your position is essentially that Obama will have had 4 years experience, so obviously this makes him the better choice, regardless of bungling literally everything he's touched and not doing what he claimed he would. It's cute. smile

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Einstein

Hahahahaha! Thanks for the reminder of Obama's boxing analogies. I saw 0 coverage of it on American news. Another fine example of Obama being a bumbling amateur fool, embarrassing himself and all of us to the world.

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[TI] Primo,

If you don't cringe when you see the embarrassing foolishness Obama shows off to the world, you're as bad as the American people. Of course you prefer a lap dog in America's White House to... Well, Bush was an idiot too. But Bush sucking doesn't make Obama any less ignorant, naive, stupid, and embarrassing now.

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Noir chimes in to back up Primo's point that sheep like Obama's groveling and aren't on a level to identify embarrassing foolishness.

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

V.Kemp ur far off target with critizising me here imo.

I am European, so is Primo, when Flint makes a directly false statement at how "Europe is laughing at Obama" then he needs to be corrected. I agree with alot of your views actually, but such outright fallacies has to be corrected, else someone ignorant enough could actually believe it

LORD HELP OREGON

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

"I am European, so is Primo, when Flint makes a directly false statement at how "Europe is laughing at Obama" then he needs to be corrected. I agree with alot of your views actually, but such outright fallacies has to be corrected, else someone ignorant enough could actually believe it"

Flint's views were based on a European program involving a European host with actual Europeans participating in European-language mockery of Barack Obama which was broadcast to Europeans on European-licensed airwaves.  I have not heard of any arrests in connection with so "Europeans laugh at Obama" seems to be about as false as the statement "SS recruited in Europe"

(unless it was CIA -backed Voice of America agitprop, but, that's ridiculous because Barack Obama cut funding for that, the damn pinko bastard)

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

"The Yell:
I don't want to be near them, I just don't want to waste money giving a damn what they do. You sound awfully concerned with their sexuality and drug use for someone who claims not to be into it!"

This is where libertarians seem to be off the rails.  We are being ordered by liberals to fund and endorse what other people do and teach our kids to celebrate it.  Either you oppose that coherently or you obey it.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

I'm not really disputing your claim, Noir. I was stating that Obama is naive, ineffective, ignorant, stupid, and embarrassing on foreign policy matters. I was not remarking on Bush's actions or perceptions of him, which your statements were in comparison to.

The Yell,
"We are being ordered by liberals to fund and endorse what other people do and teach our kids to celebrate it."

I'm completely opposed to government teaching children what parents can and should handle entirely on their own. I don't need government telling my kid what they should [cluck]. They can figure that out on their own without mentally dysfunctional people telling them what they think. They _should_ be too busy teaching language, math, science, and history to have time for that bullshit anyway.

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

Then you're with us against them, or should be.

But instead I hear about how we're both wrong and we need to shut up to get along with you, which is kind of like fighting apartheid by refusing to get involved in racial drama

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

I suppose insofar as they're always going to demand acceptance to the point of school indoctrination, I'm with you on that. It's not government's place.

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Yet Kemp, claiming that Obama is a laughing stock in Europe when he in fact in the most respected president for a looong time is completely false or ignorant at best. But ill let it rest, there are far worse contradictions in Flint avrage post tongue

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

"Yet Kemp, claiming that Obama is a laughing stock in Europe when he in fact in the most respected president for a looong time is completely false or ignorant at best."

Most respected by whom? The opinions of sheep do not concern me.

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

Most respected by european public and politicians, whom you call sheep is none of my business though

LORD HELP OREGON

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Are you a politician? How many politicians do you know? On what basis do you claim to know who/what they respect?

Because they said so? If you take politicians at their words spoken to the public, I think you should seek help.

They love a spineless lapdog who gives control of the US military to the UN and NATO. This doesn't mean they respect him.

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Re: A realistic look at Obama's re-election chances

they dig his command of the Austrian language

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.