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no that doenst, thats how most fams do it, attack they retake and they ask for the planets they retook.
its just as bad alundra.

either u offer them a straightforward nap or you keep fighting.

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> Paininside wrote:

> no that doenst, thats how most fams do it, attack they retake and they ask for the planets they retook.
its just as bad alundra.

either u offer them a straightforward nap or you keep fighting.

pain its actually better off for the smaller fam to say here have a few planets we will keep the infra. We will keep growing. Its called keeping your family intact. Long wars even for smaller fams are painful because they dont have a lot of econ to began with so every little gc and iron scrap matters.

I will be Evil Jets ,but some fams will be better for it.

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and thats where u and me differ from eachother jets, and thats fine. atleast the honour would be mine.

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kewl jets, and pitbull still play big_smile    and i got mixed feelings about this idea for NAP's. but since ive been MIA for couple years. guess will just see how this round goes.

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If a fam wants a nap why not let them pay planets. If you beat up w fam then ask for more planets when they already dead that's what's shady

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Once we figure out the solution to farming im gonna push an idea in the Think Tank to make asking for planets for NAPs illegal.

@Jets: you can try to sugarcoat it and justify it all you want. Regardless of how you try to spin it extortion is extortion. You shouldnt be asking for planets from a small family IN THE FIRST PLACE!! You should be fighting someone your own size LOL

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whats wrong with extortion?

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> AdriusAvangion wrote:

> Once we figure out the solution to farming im gonna push an idea in the Think Tank to make asking for planets for NAPs illegal.

@Jets: you can try to sugarcoat it and justify it all you want. Regardless of how you try to spin it extortion is extortion. You shouldnt be asking for planets from a small family IN THE FIRST PLACE!! You should be fighting someone your own size LOL

fighting fams your own size really.

If you look at this mw round. there is 11 fams that actually have a clue what they are doing.

there 2-4 fams that hit hard times and might be able to turn that corner.

I wasnt sugar coating it ,but If a fam rather flight then fight that is there choice. Those are the human 2 defensive choices learned that a long time ago in health class.

I want to reduce the reward of fighting small fams also ,but Its very easy for a small fam to slow you down by just retaking everything.

I do not believe that paying of planets should be bann'd from the game are the mods becomming commie's

I always been a player that felt the player can choose to be good or evil. some people like being the bad guys. Again maybe penalize a fam that is being evil.

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i agree with jets.
once more people: jets for president! tongue

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@AA

@Jets: you can try to sugarcoat it and justify it all you want. Regardless of how you try to spin it extortion is extortion. You shouldnt be asking for planets from a small family IN THE FIRST PLACE!! You should be fighting someone your own size LOL

I was told by Tebow that Jets only has a 1/2 inch little "thing" if ya know what I mean so I guess he will have to find someone like well, like WS and his 1/4 inch smaller "thing" to fight.

but the problem is WS only needs half what others have to win haha

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witch fam has draft spots left?

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There are some cases id prefer to pay planets than lose more infra. All comes down to your own faith and activity in your own fam. Ive seen fams bounce back twice as strong from havin a quick war, losing and paying planets then getting straight back into eco.

I dont see why you need to take that OPTION away from fams it could benifit?

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case and point, there is no simple fix to stop people taking too much or just paying for pussy naps. good luck sorting it!

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k I know i can go easy on x fam take a few and they will nap and give me 20 planets more.

I know planet x cant pay me planets so i op thier bankers raid them super hard. Run all thier attackers fleets and take 80

knowing a fam cant pay planets will cause the little/smaller fams to get beaten down even harder then they do now.

Reducing the cost of a losing war or leaving a losing war with your fam still in tact is a win.

This is much better for the majority of the community also because there is more bad fams then good fams now a days.

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Just add a part in the War Script where when declared, After 15% of planets lost peace is declared.  Just have it go into effect mid round at week 4 or so to prevent it from being affected in ephase when just a few planets could be 15%.

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biggest flaw on that relish is that when peace is declaired and the small fam wouldnt be able to retake, top fams just can portal up and remove the peace threaty and start over again.

i would say the easyer solution to this is, remove the 35% rule and make it a 80% rule.

then top fams have to choose. keep boosting eco and not being able to hit annyone, or stay small and have a chance to get attacked before being able to hit those fams. its alot riskyer for top fams to outgrow people that way + theil stay low on planets if they would outgrow everyone wich in the end result in them not being the top fam annymore.

also good chance less naps wil be signed between the top fams, since those r the only ones they can fight.

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268 (edited by Relish the Troll King 08-Jan-2012 03:30:20)

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Who said it could be removed?

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so fams can only fight eachother once in a round? tongue

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270 (edited by Relish the Troll King 08-Jan-2012 03:45:27)

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No, they can fight early if they want and then later after the 4 week or so mark when it would go into effect.   You'll also see that you may have to war more families with that change because you can't just farm families to get your planets like some like to do which could also lead to less napping.

Also helps eliminate the raping then demanding a bunch of planets for nap too.

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so from when should ic start counting if 15% is taken? after war declaration? fams would just stop declairing. and 15% of a fams planets how u gonna keep track of that when a fam takes 10 planets every week.  is it from the first time they attacked, then theil hit 15% very soon, or do we add a timer when the game picks a new number from where the 15% starts counting, but then fams would just stop. wait a bit and continue.

its very hard to work out your idea i think to not get anny abuse.

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If a fam stops declaring then it's up to the family being hit to declare to start it.

273 (edited by AdriusAvangion 08-Jan-2012 04:55:55)

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LOL some of you sound like the mafia. You actually think youre doing them a favor? Youre getting X amount of extra planets with no effort. If your goal was to gain X amount of planets in this war just take X amount of planets and be done with it. Since when do we care about an enemy's infra anyways?

What some of you fail to see is the long term problems this practice has caused. The most glaring of them all is the lack of fighting and wars. a large family can simply bully a smaller fam into a NAP for planets....without a single attack. Ive seen it! We have all seen it. This isnt what a war game is about. Whats happening here is another family exploring for another.

Another problem is smaller familys have now fallen into the habit of paying planets for NAPs. They give up and there is no fight. Everyone complains about the disparity between the top fams and bottom fams. Getting extra planets after a war for a NAP is helping to create that dispariity. Its not the entire problem, but is part of the pie.

Even in the most kind hearted scenario, its still extortion mafia style. The old protection racket. The deli shop owner who has to pay protection money to the mob. His choices are a broken legs or worse, or he pays them. Hmmm....Lose a bunch of infra or pay us planets.

now tell me its not extortion tongue

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it all comes to diplomacy some people have it others dont paying planets is one of the many options whether u pay or ask is up to the people involved it should not be a game rule.

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It really has nothing to do with diplomacy anymore at all Warhammer.  With the amount of competition it is often times you are dealing with families that can't compete with the top families.  Taking 200-300 off them then asking for another 200 in some cases.