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assys why do you think its easier to spread the good players WITH drafting? it just gives 7 gd players the opportunity to play together. there are like 6 fams with 7 gd drafts in andro atm, prolly not even that many. mw only has 3 dafts in total in each fam. if we had no pw and 3 and 3, we'd be looking at ic about a year and a half ago, with 10 gd fams, a bunch of mediocre fams and a bunch of dodgy random fams. lowering the number of drafts divides the gd players up. the 6 gd fams in andro suddenly become 12 in the new gal. the more the gd players are divided up, the more competitive fams there will be and so the moe interesting it will be.

to all pw ppl who say they dont like drafting, 1vip/1random should make such a big difference for you. im sure most of you have played enough round to knows sum other ppl u like playing with, and there only needs to be 1 VIP in each fam. iv seen plenty of vips in pw.

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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problem is we like the randomness associated with no drafts smile

The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut

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there will still be a huge element of randomness with 1/1 drafting, especially if the fam size is 12 or more. To say that 1/1 drafting will cut down or eliminate randomness is just a puff of smoke. Like Arch keeps saying, you will have a bunch of vets and vips spread across a whole bunch of families creating more competition. It will be an ICC all on its own except this time you will have to work with 9+ randoms, instead of having the entire family full of people you wanted.

Yes,Yes,Yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but i'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy,So forgive me and shut up - Johnny

[Friday:July:1:09:36:27] <@Ben> you broke the universe
<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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Actually, why not leave pinwheel open to be played alongside the main galaxy?

This way, with combined IC, we have 1k+ players (75 - 15 player fams). Im sure a lot of PWers will wanna play this galaxy but a lot wont.

Can you take the Chocolate Rain

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Trivia
740 unique users have logged on today. A user can have several playing accounts.

1070 players are active currently.

I'm assuming that players active are main accounts? If so, then how many of those are from virgo(including tutors)? factor those out , and now split it between 2 galaxies?

I understand where people are coming from with leaving PW open, but it's not going to kill people to play in the super galaxy for one round.

Yes,Yes,Yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but i'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy,So forgive me and shut up - Johnny

[Friday:July:1:09:36:27] <@Ben> you broke the universe
<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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"there will still be a huge element of randomness with 1/1 drafting, especially if the fam size is 12 or more. To say that 1/1 drafting will cut down or eliminate randomness is just a puff of smoke. Like Arch keeps saying, you will have a bunch of vets and vips spread across a whole bunch of families creating more competition. It will be an ICC all on its own except this time you will have to work with 9+ randoms, instead of having the entire family full of people you wanted."

a) if there is such a huge element of randomness still why have a draft at all?

b) and if you honestly beleive that all the vets and vips will be spread across all the fams you need to wake up and try playing this game www.imperialconflict.com because it never happens like that, all it takes is a few vips to random into a good fam, then they bring their partner making it even stronger... while the small fams that the vips delete straight out of get left even more behind then usual

I dont care what you want in you super gal, go for it... leave PW alone

The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut

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I like the idea.

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a) so that you will be able to play with 2 friends if you choose too? People do work in Banker/Attacker/Resourcer teams ya know.

b) with only 1/1 drafting and 50-100 families, there will be no small families if all the galaxies are merged and there is no way that all the vets and VIPs can congregate into a few super families because you cannot keep deleting as many times as you want. You get what, 2 chances? to get into a family that has other people but then if they have already drafted in people on your last try, you're stuck there. How about you accept the truth that PW isn't a hallowed galaxy and that the mods can do what they want with it. It's one friggin round, will it kill you to not play IC for 2-3 months? if it does then you need help.

Yes,Yes,Yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but i'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy,So forgive me and shut up - Johnny

[Friday:July:1:09:36:27] <@Ben> you broke the universe
<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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This shit is all so booring. I only read archangels posts tongue they are funnyer and they make sence big_smile

I am Awesome!

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alch's make sense too. possibly becos he is agreeing with me tongue

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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Leave PW alone X(

Haters gonna hate!

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Alch :
Plz learn who ppl are and how long they have played before you start sounding as ppl you talk to are n00bs.

i started midbeta2.
When did you start ?

I have been involved in creating a large number of strats for ic in that strat channel in wich lizon and chill and primo and flint and countless other good old school players used to hang !
So NO I dont belive I have a reason to go trough Virgo.
Most ppl dont know as many strats as i have forgotten.
And less then 20 have created more strats then I have.

If you want we can setup a contest for who knows most about ic. tongue

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you know about beta, you've even said yourself that you have been gone for a very long time so you don't know how it's done now adays. Which I may add you've proven over and over again. And if you are such a master at strategy then why are you ranked 17th? You've said several times that you would conquer 746 easily, yet they are now ranked 7th. I don't seem them falling in ranks at all.  And if you weren't such a fool you would realize that I know who you are, we've talked plenty of bloody times so it's not my fault that you can't remember jack all. And your so called suggestions are just stupid variations of what people have been saying for the last little while.

Yes,Yes,Yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but i'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy,So forgive me and shut up - Johnny

[Friday:July:1:09:36:27] <@Ben> you broke the universe
<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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Merge everything! Scrap Draco too...

People should learn how to plan their rounds and fight through everything and not just give up after 2 weeks. Having everyone in 1 place would also make for a better community with more active players in one place. It should have been done a long time ago but I'm glad it's being done now anyway, hopefully it can squeeze out another few years from IC smile

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exactly lethal.

and arganon you are a poor excuse for a player, and your brain seems to shrink on a daily basis lol. i already has this exact argument with you and showed you why you were being stupid. THERE ARENT ENOUGH PLAYERS. get it through your thick skull.

oh and as for your greatness. i remember pwning the living bullocks out of you in andro after you convinced johan to leave my brother's fam in tri a few years ago. it was my first round leading a top 10 fam, so i was a n00b, and yet still had no trouble killing you. your fams never do well, your strats bigger donkey balls than flint's and all you do is bitch bitch bitch about how you've played since beta and are therefore amazing. I also player in the betas, but that doesnt make me amazing. i am considered good(not amazing) becos i do well consistently. you don't ever do well and therefore can't be considered good.

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

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When Arganon's is an attacker he is really a banker in disguise. tongue

"It is possible to store the mind with a million facts and still be entirely uneducated." --Alec Bourne

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Arch, everyone has already had this conversation with him. He's just too stupid to learn.

Yes,Yes,Yes, I'm the one that's been killing all those people, but i'm also the creative force behind Happy Noodle Boy,So forgive me and shut up - Johnny

[Friday:July:1:09:36:27] <@Ben> you broke the universe
<+Zarf_BeebleBrix> we have a schitzophrenic underaged queen attempting to assassinate a whoremonger king while getting around cowbell-wearing knights...

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i mean he suggested exactly the same thing a few months ago in a diff thread tongue

I was using a metaphor that means God is watching us. You've heard this, there's a toilet on the roof.

94 (edited by Arganon 06-Jun-2008 02:02:37)

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Alch :

"you know about beta"
Sure do I think i died 7 times during beta2 or something of the sort ! :S

"you've even said yourself that you have been gone for a very long time so you don't know how it's done now adays"
1 Round is that a longtime ?:S

"Which I may add you've proven over and over again."
If you are constantly hit by old foes who cant leave the passed in the passed its not so easy to get something going you know.
And I am not one of them chickens who go into hiding mind you ! smile

"And if you are such a master at strategy then why are you ranked 17th?"
If you want I can post a summary of our fam news analyze.
Basicly 10 fams are constantly hitting us wars or no wars.
Not easy to cope with if you got at the best 6 active able players.

"You've said several times that you would conquer 746 easily,"
What did Artic do ?
He first asked hes allie for aid against us.
Next he told all fams the war was over to get aid by means of lieing to other fams to get them to fight us at the same time as 46.
Thats really bold of a rank5 against a rank16.

"yet they are now ranked 7th."
Is he whining for naps or threatning with hes allie perhaps ? tongue

"I don't seem them falling in ranks at all."
Nope but then again the round aint over and the show aint over until the fat lady sings ! smile

"And if you weren't such a fool you would realize that I know who you are,"
You havent got a clue as to who I am.

"we've talked plenty of bloody times so it's not my fault that you can't remember jack all."
By all means remind me ! tongue

"And your so called suggestions are just stupid variations of what people have been saying for the last little while."
There is 2 possibilities there:
I made thoes plans from the start and others learned them from me.
or I learned them from others and are now using em.
But the truth is its a mix of BOTH.
"No plans can survive reality of combat" a known General once said.
Do you know who he was ?

Erwin Rommel !

I can add one thing to that:
You cant make a plan work unless you got a set of ppl whos mind are set to do FUCUSED efforts in ONE direction.

finaly:
When you have alone managed to force a inactive fam into becomming active.
When you have built up 4 bankers during a singel round.
When you have rebuilt your account 20 times after beeing killed by raids.
When you have made 50 detailed battleplans in 48 hours.
When you have managed to outvit a far better fam when it comes to player material.
When you have fought 3 fams at the time for half a round and won all wars.
When you have fought and gotten a stallmate against a fam who NO OTHER fam could defeat during that round.
When you have opped a far supperior fam in player material and activity level and eco levels into submission while deffending against their even stronger allie.


THEN YOU CAN CALL ME N00B ! :S
Until then plz refrain urself from such remarks.

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WHICH IS WHY I AM SAYING
40 FAMILIES OF 20 PLAYERS
2 MONTHS
its just 8 weeks
6 weeks -> 2 weeks difference
like wth..
ITS ONLY 2 WEEKS
maybe if we have 20 players per family
there wont be a problem with inactivity.... less chance of being stuc kwit ha crappy family -> less drafts -> less pros all in family and more scattered
20 players per family + tri alliance..
it will be crazy.

[b]Piggy Power!

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or 45 familes of 20

[b]Piggy Power!

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Also, lets make the round start near the middle of july, and move the EOR date of MW
create a short pw round that will end at the same time?
and andro players can start joining right after andro ends?

[b]Piggy Power!

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I like 40 fams of 20 with no drafting ... keeps things interesting round after round ... you don't have the same group of players playing with each other round after round ... gets boring that way

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