Right, so that is your approach? Here are some messages for you:

I sent

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http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=142883&p=6

Read the second post down.
Sent to Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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Response from Impire

Week 13, 23Reply Save
what war , u randomly doing a few attacks on 74 2v1 with 66? your pcount hasnt changed in days....in fact in 1 tick of us attacking you your pcount changed more than in your entire 'war'
Signed, Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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I said

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No, we were doing ops on 74 to soften them up for a raid. But clearly you knew about that thread already, so there is no point in talking about it any further. You have already summed up your character.
Sent to Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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he said

Week 14, 23Reply Save
is 74 attacking you? have you exchanged attacks with more than 20 hits?

so all you are doing is opping them to help 66 , that's not a war

plus i already don't like your alliance
Signed, Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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I said

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So what you are saying, is the despite knowing that we were in conflict with someone you attacked us because 'You don't like our alliance'. That is all the justification you have?
Sent to Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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he said

Week 14, 23Reply Save
the justification i have is i got no nap with you and you are in my NW range

the ethical portion of whatever you are trying to say is that i don't really consider you randomly opping 74 a war

enjoy pmode, your mates will soon join you
Signed, Impire of Or1on (#5067)

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So at what point were you not contacted about this. I didn't contact you personally, I contacted your leader. You were also contacted personally by the leader of 69 telling you we were in a war with them. As for not farming, we started off a third of your size. We are 13th by size, so you are attacking someone outside the top 10 for more than a few planets. And we were in a war that had already been discussed in uni news. I see that you are now declared leader, at the time that I came on and saw the attacks Impire was leader, hence the correspondance was with him. We had that conversation above BEFORE i posted in uni news. I think that covers all of the points you made.

gwynedd, do u actually care or are u pretending to care? I am quite baffled.

And after reading those messages, Impire said exactly what I said, he only said it in his own unique way. If you've played this game for a couple years, and as far as I know you have, then you know Impire's style. If you read between the lines, he said what I posted.

I still can't believe how you people manage to make something so big and horrible out of something that essentially is just a quick clearing.

Lol

76, you cry like babys. Sadly impire dont "raided" you guys so you had a reason to cry

I told spam not to trust those guys, he said "they wont do it to us, i know these guys" SPAMMY YOUR TOO DAMN NICE

Anyways, Duke Nukems post is the most stoopid post ever! lol

> Rin wrote:

> this thread amazes me, elro doing stuff and gwynedd caring.

LOL

Also: thumbs up.

oxy, that's just a load of crap. I won't take shit from you. The only player in your fam that even wanted to reinstate the NAP was Spam. The rest of you were pissed at him for doing it. Regardless what you think or others think, 2950 planets out of the 3050 we have came from top 10 wars. End of story. No one else can claim that this round.

But I'll remember this for the next round I play. Need to get some psychological training to have a way to know when a certain fam is opping the shit out of another fam, in a 2v2. Cuz, hey, not sure if y ou noticed, but there's no way to tell from the rankings if a fam is warring another by opping them. Indeed, planet counts don't change. Again, I didn't know they were that heavily involved versus 74. How am I supposed to? No one told me shit. Didn't even get the chance to talk to people in my fam about whether or not 76 was fighting anyone. We all have our busier periods. If 76 would have messaged me directly, all this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

I feel like I'm getting a lot of shit for something that's barely worth the hassle.

"2950 planets out of the 3050 we have came from top 10 wars"

So you explored just 100 planets? That's a real bad start Talic

You're making it sound as if 80/71 lost the war before it even started. Not quite true. It was even. And you had 100 mil iron +. How is that evening the playing field? Who said we would cancel 2v1 on you as well? You were just assuming we'd make that move.

We are not warring 76. Never claimed we were. We took 100 planets, that's it. Less than 10% of their total planet count. If you didn't hit a small fam all round for more than 10% of their planet count, you have all the right to call us out on this. Though, somehow, I have the feeling that's not true.

We can all keep calling out each other, but in the end this is very much becoming one of those "pot and kettle" discussions.

I think taking 100 planets off a fam leads to 1 of 2 scenarios: a NAP or a war.  Since 76 is not in a position to effectively fight you, I'm assuming they choose #1 but I could be wrong.  I'm on vacation atm

I'm calling you out on hitting 76 because you're needlessly padding a lead no one will take from you this final week.  I'm sure we are probably guility of hitting a lower fam this round for less than 10% pcount as well, but the difference to me is that we never had the pcount lead and had the round win secured.  But you are right, this is a pot and kettle situation because we've all been around long enough to know how the other plays.  Plus I don't want to sit here all day arguing when I could be at the beach X(

And yes, we assume a lot because I've seen it done to my families in past IC rounds.  Maybe not from you, but it's something I come to expect in IC nowadays, which I guess is sad really.  We figured you would either cancel 2v1 against us or cancel 2v2 (if you even had a NAP with 76, which you didn't I guess).  We even thought you had the capability to cancel 1v1 and market aid/ally-holds-planets-in-conflict-type moves.  I'm not trying to accuse you of these things because obviously I do not know what would have happened, but I try to make my plans of attack on what I feel our opponents are capable of.  I think it speaks to the high level of everyone's play from both alliances to be trying to think of all these moves, but I guess it doesn't matter now.  The round played out to your liking and we have been knocked out of contention for the round win, so gg to you and your alliance.  We will fight/recover as best we can and prepare for next round.  Our fam played the round as best we could, given our terrible map positioning and our bad luck all round (OHs at BOR, fighting top fams this whole round, always playing defensive and cleaning up messes in our fam and in our alliance, etc).  Oh well

Yeah oh well, my mistake for napping 67 when they were about to fight 65. My bad for not just attacking them when I cancelled NAP on them, war or not. My bad for reinstating the NAP with them cause they crying like babies. My bad for re-instating the NAP. What a fool I am.

Also you said "we are not at war with 76, just took 100 planets" WTF does Declaring war mean then? So what your saying is declaring war is not like being in a war, even though it says war?

Only 6 planets between 74 and 76 have been exchanged, I'm sorry but that's not a war.