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Do reshuffles every round isnt good doing one every 2 rounds is a good thing that way people get 2 chances at making their fams work.
Still it wont allow crews to play together year after year.
So 2 rounds before reshuffle makes the game better years inbeteeen hurts always reshuffle also damage it.
Ergo every 2 rounds we need a reshuffle as its OPTIMAL for the game.
No arganon...we did that for a long time. It wasnt really working and alot of people complained. The facts i stated in my previous post have already been proven true.
If the majority of people DONT want to shuffle im fine with that too. i can go either way. Im a believer in democracy and if the people want to stay in their familys thats cool too. My opinion to shuffle is based on what ive seen and experienced over the last few years.
i remember when i said we shouldn't have drafting because it would create powerhouse fams and then no one would want to play anymore.
then they allowed drafting.
then no one wanted to play anymore.
coincidence?!?!!???!?!!?
i think not!
Arganan, you're an idiot and will always be. No one want to play with you because you don't grow up and you think you're better than others, in fact, you don't. I gave you few chances but you keep insulting others, making a fool out of yourself, etc etc. We grew tired of you and wanted you out. You said you would not delete and pass planets and let us kill u off in honorable way. Instead, you deleted like a coward. Now you land in last place family and I haven't seen your family grow very much, compared to my family that used to be last place fam and rose to #12 in nw ranking. I noticed few deleted from your family. I've seen randoms land in our family and refused to play with you. We couldn't draft 4 players because of you. They dont want to play with you. When you left, we got 4 new drafts and we rank up normally. You dont know what you are talking about here.
AA is right. Reshuffle every two rounds will not work because it give ic players an idea of sticking with very good players while new players has long way to prove that they can be good at playing. I have seen randoms come and go because they expect to see old players that they want to stick with. For example, if you random in and find that there is IC Gods like Kagar, Orbit, AA, whoever known to be IC Legends, they will stick with them. That's not fair to other families who have new players or few rounders who'd like to have few active and good known players. I don't care if I land in a fam full of stacked sexy players because the game itself is dying because no one give new randoms a chance. I've seen vet leader killing off new players and I've experienced my teammates pressuring me to kill off new players because not active or not experienced enough. That has to stop!!!!
Reshuffling every round is the way to go and encourage others to give a chance to play with teammates they've never played together before.
destroyyoutoo, i thought about drafting too. u have a point there.
also, dont forget there is illegal randoming, which also ruin the concept of the randoming and the game itself....creating powerhouse again and again
agreed
Burned Waffles:
"Arganan, you're an idiot and will always be."
Personal attacks aint a proof of inteligence !
" No one want to play with you because you don't grow up and you think you're better than others,"
People who belive they are god himself and are in need of worshiping dont cos i dont woriship !
People to have listen to the other group and belive em when they talk negative against me wich most often are pure lies are also in this group.
To become hostile against someone from what other say is also a proof of lack of ingeligence as all see things in their own way thus taking someones word for how a individual is is proof of stupiduty.
"in fact, you don't. I gave you few chances but you keep insulting others,"
I never instult someone UNLESS he already did the same against me.
At wich point i feel it to be well deserved.
"making a fool out of yourself, etc etc."
How ?
When I dont wish to play like u do farm nap threats save for 3 week hit fams at eor !
That will never be a fun round for me.
I prefere to do as i did once fight 40 wars and win em all and a couple of k planets in the process.
Btw mighty Burned Waffles have you won 40ish wars in a round ?
I have !
"We grew tired of you and wanted you out. You said you would not delete and pass planets and let us kill u off in honorable way. Instead, you deleted like a coward."
You got what you deserved do you think I help someone who have threated me bad ?
NO I help thoes that have been helpful AND TO H*LL WITH THE REST !:S
"Now you land in last place family and I haven't seen your family grow very much, compared to my family that used to be last place fam and rose to #12 in nw ranking. I noticed few deleted from your family. I've seen randoms land in our family and refused to play with you. We couldn't draft 4 players because of you. They dont want to play with you. When you left, we got 4 new drafts and we rank up normally. You dont know what you are talking about here."
If someone dont wish to play with me thats their choise do I belive they have these ideas as plauyers they are impressed by says Im a bad player and a bad leader do Im not.
But if they want to be sheep instead of wolfs fine by me.
AA is right. Reshuffle every two rounds will not work because it give ic players an idea of sticking with very good players while new players has long way to prove that they can be good at playing. I have seen randoms come and go because they expect to see old players that they want to stick with. For example, if you random in and find that there is IC Gods like Kagar, Orbit, AA, whoever known to be IC Legends, they will stick with them. That's not fair to other families who have new players or few rounders who'd like to have few active and good known players. I don't care if I land in a fam full of stacked sexy players because the game itself is dying because no one give new randoms a chance. I've seen vet leader killing off new players and I've experienced my teammates pressuring me to kill off new players because not active or not experienced enough. That has to stop!!!!"
Take this fam im in it might need 2 rounds to start working well and getting rid of some deedmeet in the process.
I have ONCE sense i began playing ic been alloed to do what i wanted with a fam !
NOt a singel major fam hit that fam !
We hit 3 fams simultaniously for 1 and a half month and 4 fams for 1 month.
Can ANYONE of you tell me one of you GREAT players have done this ?
I have rebuilt a account 20 times diuring a round wich of you GREAT players can tell me you have done that ?
I have made 50 detailed attack plans in 4 days wich of you GREAT players can say you have done that ?
UNTIL YOU HAVE DONT SPEAK DOWN TO ME !:S
"Reshuffling every round is the way to go and encourage others to give a chance to play with teammates they've never played together before."
no it allows already created crews more dominant then thoes that need to come together in 1 round before the team start to work well.
Basicly these pricks who dont want reshuffle want to have ic as uneven as possible.
Cos it helps them the farming napping threats saving for about a month player groups.
yeah they win rounds but how fun is it ?
And how good do you need to be to achive this ?
I belive its the americans fault larly !
They do want to win at all costs and can do whatever possible to achive this goal.
I on the other hand dont like walktroughs for games as I see it if you can handle the diffeculties in the game it wasnt ment to be played to its end by you.
And As I dont cheat not in games and not in online games I get more fun even do I wont win many rounds.
Someone many of you have forgotten somewhere along the path is that this game should be played for FUN !
You farmers and infrawhorers and eor warmongers wont ever havve as fun as I have in my fams.
I get to play I get to make us win tons of wars things HAPPENS in my fams.
Im yours people wait and wait and do and wait and wait and so on and so forth !
I HATE WAITING !:S
I'm not going to counter your talking points. Your words against mine. My words against yours. It's all good. :-P
no fool !
You dont talk against me cos there is nothing to be said !
YOU have not rebuilt a account 20 times !
YOU have not won 40 wars !
YOU have not made 50 detailed attack plans in 4 days !
The less able player are critizisin the more able player on the ground that hes a poor player.
Guess if people like Waffles are to be trusted in there preditions about me and other players for that matter ? :S
By doing what you just did you have infact proven to all that you are a far worse player and leader then me and infact made a fool of yourself in the proccess ! 
@Arg to long post my friend ... found myself lost around half way ( yeah im old blablabla )
@not at arg
next round will be reshuffled .. the idea for this topic is not bad tho .. to see how much players whould like a change
but why change if we dont want to change ourselfs ... stable fams i love too and had some great fams in the top ..
but
times changes .. we should make IC bigger again and then nagg about reinstalling old days ..
Lets give all those new players the change to learn from experianced players better and reshuffle
I do not like reshuffles at all but when we have to do that to keep this game alive then yeah .. i will vote reshuffle how hard it is for me ..
I like my present fam very much and whould love to play with them an other 100 rounds .. but hmmm
making friends .. share knowledge .. have a fun times , bad times .. isnt that the point of playing a game ?
I was away 2 years and i know you all make good compliments for those who fight for us (as volunteers) a lot ... but hmmm
we really lack enough people to make a good front even with our mods fighting for us / our thoughts ..
my vote .. reshuffle 
LOL @ Arganan
keep talking
la la la la la la
reshuffle, even though i end up with snake eyes ...... e.very time
ROFL @ Arganon
Dude you have not won 40 wars. I doubt you have won a single war on your own. Im sorry but your record and the statistics speak for themselves.
There is no way in hell you have planned out 50 detailed attack plans in 4 days. I played with you once, remember? Your plans were horrible. You were the laughing stock of our family. We had to verbally assault you just to go along with our own plans, plans that actually made sense. If you recall we won that round. LOL
Burned Waflles is a really good player. He would of been in my family this round if it werent for some drafting goof ups at the start. He knows what hes talking about and knows the game quite well.
Like i said before.....if the people dont want to reshuffle im fine with that. I really like my family and i wouldnt mind at all playing with them another round. My opinion to shuffle has nothing to do with who im playing witth. In fact it would be to my advantage if we DIDNT shuffle cuz my chances of winning are better. But thats not the point. I put aside my own desires. I prefer to do whats best for the game and for the community.
> bladenosh wrote:
> I have, however, been laid.
lol'd
losing your virginity barely counts as being laid. i mean honestly, what is 30 seconds?
you should know 
bladenosh:
Gene Simmons once said he have had 100 000 women !
I told a friend after telling him that that id prefere to have sex 100 000 times with one woman instead of wich 100 000 women !
Wich I have btw !:)
To hard to undersand ?
To YOUNG to understand ?
AdriusAvangion:
"Dude you have not won 40 wars."
Its people like you who asume to know things about me wich you dont.
There was 32 players that was involved in that round and all talked bla bla bla we cant do things like this bla bla this isnt possible to pull off bla bla bla.
I DID !
I dont need you to belive me AA Ill live nevertheless you know.
One of these days ill do it again.
And lauf at your face MAN !:P
You see talking like you do and then be proven wrong is making a fool of oneself !:)
"I doubt you have won a single war on your own."
You are talking with your rearend as ursual !
"Im sorry but your record and the statistics speak for themselves."
You dont know jack about my ic track record so yet again talking with your rearend !
"There is no way in hell you have planned out 50 detailed attack plans in 4 days."
BEEP ERROR ! :):)
Ask for instane Cc2k !
He can tell you a few things about that as he was the leader in that fam wich got my little doc !
Sg1 round 4 or 5 dont remember wich one.
"I played with you once, remember? Your plans were horrible."
Yes you did and no they aint.
Have you done what I have in ic ?
Sure you have won rounds but all isnt about winning a round you know.
"You were the laughing stock of our family."
Fools often lauf at the cleaver once !:)
It do prove whos inteligent and whos not !
Btw A note for you I HAVE NEVER HAD A WORSE LEADER THEN H4E IN MY LIFE !
The prick hogged the stash all round jumping 10 and 15 m fleets instead of jumping all attackers and let their huge attacker hang in the top beeing unable to protect their fams planets cos morale losses !
Doing that would force the foes huge attackers DISPAND their air to be able to fight wich would spoil a great deal of resurces cos they where foolosh inuff to jump so huge fleets to begin with.
"We had to verbally assault you just to go along with our own plans, plans that actually made sense. If you recall we won that round. LOL"
Do you know something yes we won BUT what you failed to understand is that I have NEVER had a more boring round then that NEVER sense I began playing IC !:S
"Burned Waflles is a really good player."
Waffles is a fool !
He should nick You_Fool as nick !:)
It would suit him !
HAHAHAHAHA
"He would of been in my family this round if it werent for some drafting goof ups at the start. He knows what hes talking about and knows the game quite well."
I think we disagree about that guy a bit !
"Like i said before.....if the people dont want to reshuffle im fine with that. I really like my family and i wouldnt mind at all playing with them another round. My opinion to shuffle has nothing to do with who im playing witth. In fact it would be to my advantage if we DIDNT shuffle cuz my chances of winning are better. But thats not the point. I put aside my own desires. I prefer to do whats best for the game and for the community."
Best for the game means for me that the game has as even rounds as possible lots of wars wich a reshuffle each round will prefent.
.....
yeah right aa nothing to say eh ?
Second point for me !
SOMEONE WANT A PEACE OFF ME ?
SPEAK IP !!!!
Ur End:
Stop doing drugs and you can focus and concentrate better !
Haha 
It's acting like it's winning the argument funny.. Arganon, you're making a fool out of yourself again, and you're not even aware of it
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