Thank you oh wise President Obama for not securing the border (yeah yeah, all the corrupt dickheads before him didn't either; but I think he campaigned on being different from them, which is an admission that they [now him too] are wrong) and exposing your (he IS a natural born US citizen, after all) people to harm and death. Good and wise man you are.

Not that expensive?  200k soldier marching around for how long?  How many would die in a territory the cartel has houses and people under them? Not expensive compared to what?  The Iraq war. Your on drugs if you think it will be quick and easy.  Its that kind of thinking that got us in the war overseas.

you know, I actually suggested this awhile ago.

If you want to look at it in a legal way, according to the 2nd amendment, we are allowed to bear arms. There is another amendment (22nd?) allowing us to raise a militia in the occurrence of an enemy force (or force we do not consider allowed) entering our country, or invading us. Illegal immigrants from Mexico can be seen as invading and thus, allows us to declare war on mexico for invading us.

DarkMason,

If members of the lower classes do not want competition for their jobs, then it is within their power to oppose it. By you trying to tell them to resign themselves to it or jump off a bridge, only shows the tyranny of liberals behind the mask of altruism.

That would be true if it weren't for the fact they can learn a new skill or trade which would increase their job security. For example if someone is a Janitor, they can take a short class and learn how to clean the ventilation system (which would make them valuable to the company). Another example is if they are working in construction they could get additional licenses or certifications, which, the un-documented workers are unable obtain by default.

The Illegal Immigration issue is a result of our near-strict immigration policies which leaves them with no other choice. You have to remember that they are people too, and they have every right to be in this country. YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TOO. Ask any Native American if you think otherwise

I agree with the first response if it's true. I didn't know that, so you have a good point there.

The second point is garbage because the USA is a country of immigrants. It was created as a refuge for people fleeing persecution.

Who are the "killers" you are referring to? White people?

"immigrants" are people willing to throw off their homes to move here and make this their home.  We make it hard on "immigrants" but shrug about the tens of millions of "migrant laborers" who have no loyalty to this country and demand we look the other way while they move about at will sending whatever they earn back home

I was taught in school that a foriegner who comes to another coutnry and loots it and sends the wealth back to his native country because he has no need to give a damn what he leaves behind, is an imperialist pig

Yes Mexico has put in very strict socialist laws, they are only now easing up on their own people but they are very strict about Americans having any role in Mexico; one reason it is so poor and stayed poor.  If you told Americans they could buy any one house in Mexico we'd freaking DO it.  It'd be insane not to, even if you rent it out and never live there. even if it were just one house each. but that is "colonialism" to them.

and I know what a "right" is.  I have a "right" to free speech, which means, I can do it, and if the government don't like it, so what.  I don't have a "right" to it, unless the govt runs out of permit blanks or the database gets full.  So I say no foriegner has a "right" to live here, because we do not have to take 100 million indonesians if they get tired of living on an island with a half-billion people.

Also the Mexican govt is hypocrites about US enforcement.
They denounce the AZ law demanding foriegners provide proof of legal residence as racist.
BUT they sued to the World Court demanding that Texas not execute Mexican citizens, convicted of murder in USA, because the Mexicans were not told they could talk to their Mexican consul within 24 hrs of their arrest.  A treaty of Vienna 1969 promises that.
So Mexico demands US cops find out if you're Mexican, but to follow up and actually enforce US laws about immigration, is a violation of human rights

I am part native American, 3 tribes actually. Plus I was born here, so that makes me 100%

Our immigration policy is one of the easiest. No crimes, speak enough English, understand the Constitution and your rights, and wait your turn and you are in.

We never turn the spigot off, we never limit it to one ethnic group, we never limit it to one continent, we care not your religion, and your given full cizenship (naturalized status) unlike most nations where Migrants do not get citzenship, just working rights.

Mexico is very draconian in immigration laws, yet actively promotes US immigration both legal and illegal.

As for militias, having one militia organized does not prevent the formation of new militias. There is no 'fixed' number in the constitution.

Oh and for the record having a baby here does not give citizenship to the baby, but some courts act like it does and the Supreme Court has not taken up the case. Only if a parent is a citizen is citizenship guaranteed. As the embassy of any nation here if their children get citizenship if accidently born here.

Do study more, you do not seem completely swallowed by cement and fixed in attitude, so go learn man!

Immigration reform is screwed up because it was hijacked by amnesty

"comprehensive reform" = good popular ideas held hostage by special interests

>>Our immigration policy is one of the easiest. No crimes, speak enough English, understand the Constitution and your rights, and wait your turn and you are in.<<

But that is not true, there is no set period.  That is one thing that needs reform.  Even Kenya has a time frame.  I say, anybody who comes here on a visa, not unemployed for more than 6 months at a stretch, not using drugs and no communicable disease, literate in English and passing a test on civics, and no criminal record, gets in after 6 years.  If the govt can prove you lied it can sue you in federal court and get your citizenship revoked.

Then I'd grandfather everybody in line now who met those qualifications.

We can do that without waiting for a fence. --I would build fences, and raid factories for those who got through the fence.  But that's totally separate.

And if we can track who's here and when they came in, and clear the backlog of legal immigrants, THEN I'd tackle giving amnesty to the cheats.  And they'd probably get easier treatment from a majority of America than they can by trying to demand TOTAL AMNESTY FIRST before we do anything else.  Especially if everybody who came legally was guaranteed success.

@Chris_Balsz - We don't really have rights anymore. The bill of rights got sh*t on by the Bush Administration.

Oppression leads to revolution, revolution leads to change, change brings flourishing, flourishing brings complacency, complacency opens the door for oppression -- Rinse, and repeat.

It has been that way since man thought of the idea to rule over his fellow man, it will never change, 5400 years from now in a intergalactic common wealth government the idea will be the same, we are predictable, petty, vain and overall not worth existing, as we do not learn from our mistakes, we are a reactive race of morons, we are ignorant of our own shortfalls, and consistently promote our virtues knowing damn well they are pseudo.