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wow a mature comment how long did it take you and your helper to come up with a pointless and witty bit like that prob the same amount of time it takes u to spell your own name or wipe your nose

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blackers ignore him. Let the mods handle him.

No comments to him is the best policy sir.

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Deci is a racist, smartass, dutchie. But he's funny and has never done anything to me, so I think he's an upstanding fellow. Just don't ever join #idiots if you aren't like me or most people who have ignorance.

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i read some posts but not all. all i will say is this.

According to religion god is all powerful, he is without a creator and he has always been. Hence scientists will never believe in him because all scientists believe that for every problem there is a solution. We can not confi something as powerful as god in to a simple or even a complex equation to explain him. Since then he isnt so powerful is he? For this specific reason i think Atheism has been on the rise. You say that people believe in God because we cant handle the truth and that there is nothing more to life then a small chance of evolution bringing us here. The same can be said about atheists.

Religion is not based on physics and chemistry or even mathematics, hence you can not use them to prove that God exists. The sooner you realize this the quicker you will end this argument with two possible solutions, You believe in God or you Dont.

To learn mathematics, atleast a higher form of it you would need to read a book of math of sort. Same thing goes for religion. Dont argue about God if you have never read the bible, and reading a summary or goingto church does not count.

Any religous person has more right to argue that atheists are Retards then they have the right to argue God exists since we know more about science then you know about God.



Sry i know this doesnt really flow i just wanted to bring out some points about the topic and didnt have time to formulate a coherent statement as some of you might say.

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The funny thing about the bible is that, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

lets see, first off, When was the beginning? Who is God? How did God create the heavens and earth? what is considered to be the heavens? Why just the earth? Why not other planets as well? Did he create the other planets as well? Why was it at the beginning? Does this apply to all planets? Why did he create the heavens and the earth? Why was there need for heavens and earth?

ok, next verse

2The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

why was the earth without form? If it was created shouldn't it have form? What is void? What kind of darkness? What was "the deep"? If "the deep" is water, was the earth all water? Isn't "earth" considered to be dirt etc, today? Did it mean something different back then? Isn't earth an element? What "Spirit of God"? Was it the Holy Spirit? Was it God? Was it both? was it all 3? Why was he hovering? Isn't he insubstantial? How does water have a face?

third verse

3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

So God can just speak and things happen? Why light? Why not sun or brightness or boom or some such? Where did the light come from? Light has to have a source, so it can't exist in every single place at once, was this how the sun was created? Did God create the sun separately?


I can go on and on. We're only on verse 3 of 31 for chapter 1, of 50 chapters, of 66 books. Uh oh.

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> Death wrote:

> The funny thing about the bible is that, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."

lets see, first off, When was the beginning? Who is God? How did God create the heavens and earth? what is considered to be the heavens? Why just the earth? Why not other planets as well? Did he create the other planets as well? Why was it at the beginning? Does this apply to all planets? Why did he create the heavens and the earth? Why was there need for heavens and earth?




------For God there is no beginning, but for the earth and heavens there is. God is Alpha and Omega, He is the Word. (if thats not a good enough answer feel free to find it in the 66 books of the bible and some 1100 chapters)
Point of the bible is salvation not a physics equation and chemical brake down of what god did. And the Heavens means everything that we can see with our eyes and telescopes would apply to the word "heaven".
And science has proven or shown the need of the heavens (sun) for us to survive so i don't think i need to explain that.--------





ok, next verse

2The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

why was the earth without form? If it was created shouldn't it have form? What is void? What kind of darkness? What was "the deep"? If "the deep" is water, was the earth all water? Isn't "earth" considered to be dirt etc, today? Did it mean something different back then? Isn't earth an element? What "Spirit of God"? Was it the Holy Spirit? Was it God? Was it both? was it all 3? Why was he hovering? Isn't he insubstantial? How does water have a face?



-------IT could be referring to there being no land mass, Earth possibly meaning dirt. Darkness is saying that no light was present. Yes the earth was all water, i think science has proven that. I am sure the words might have had a slightly different meaning but that's why we always have updated translations since meaning of words change with zeitgeist. God is all three in one. And the waters doesn't literally have a human face, it just means over the top, i think this was probably said to give people a better understanding of what was happening, i am sure god doesn't need t to hover over water or anything for that matter-------




third verse

3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

So God can just speak and things happen? Why light? Why not sun or brightness or boom or some such? Where did the light come from? Light has to have a source, so it can't exist in every single place at once, was this how the sun was created? Did God create the sun separately?



-----the sun inst the only thing that gives light even though it is by far our main source. And yes god can speak and things just appear. He is not limited by human defects, and he doesn't have to say boom... You keep applying human aspects to god. And i am assuming that either that's when God created the sun or just sparked it up, since you can say that sun is a star and could have been created in the previous verse--------




I can go on and on. We're only on verse 3 of 31 for chapter 1, of 50 chapters, of 66 books. Uh oh.




See if you would have read at least a third of the bible you wouldn't have these simple questions, maybe before watching and reading anti-christian literature you should read the bible as well to see what it is really about, and not take someone else's twisted up version/opinion of it.

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everything humans know is thought up, we make our own languige, we find solutions for problems we develop all cinds of processes that speed up production or develop medical stuff that makes people bether.. there is no god there is only man and its will to survive..

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What if God smoked cannabis, when he made the platypus?

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Why did God make mosquitos?

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"Why did God make mosquitos?"

To feed the spiders, frogs, etc.  The real question is why didn't God make mosquitos less irritating.

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> Lucky+me=Snailsex wrote:

> everything humans know is thought up, we make our own languige, we find solutions for problems we develop all cinds of processes that speed up production or develop medical stuff that makes people bether.. there is no god there is only man and its will to survive..





-------------That is a perfect explanation because it doesn't let you go beyond the limits of the human mind, but the thing is there are no limits, just what we understand and so far its not very much. MAN CAN NOT UNDERSTAND GOD. Hence trying to prove his existence will never come to an end, because thats the whole point of Science is to understand and explain something. God can not be understood and explained completely other then what is aid about him in the bible. But obviously this answer isn't good enough for scientists, psychologists, sociologists, and atheists. So we can argue about this forever, but as someone said in an earlier post you can not disprove that god exists 100% or prove that he exists 100%. You can only take it on faith....-------------------

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ukie: "But obviously this answer isn't good enough for scientists, psychologists, sociologists, and atheists."

Your generalization of scientists, psychologists, and sociologists somewhat offends me. I'm a secular type myself, but there are plenty of people in those professions who can reconcile their beliefs with the existence of a God or gods. One of my friends from my graduating class is a devout Roman Catholic, and is a published microbial epidemiologist.

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i am sorry i just haven't met any people in those professions that believed in God. My high school physics teacher used to laugh at me lol. So yeah kind of a rough history with those people. If i offended you sorry since i know there are people and scientists that believe in God. But i feel like the new generation doesn't.

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