2,451

(29 replies, posted in General)

"However it is something which is just about all the way through this game... it is merely highlighting the current disease that is bringing down IC... go figure that idiotic and stupid f-mods would continue such practices"

Again, "fool" has nothing linked to you in person. I used a lot of variations on WFS, and you should learn to accept it. If you really think it's harming your nick or person, consider it a tribute..

2,452

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

Soth, don't attack people personally, you tit tongue

it all comes down to this: what do you understand with "criminal"?
For me, it means that you can be found guilty in court (not the judge Huly kind, that's just plain silly), wich is totally different from egging, wich usually is solved by calling the lad's parents or something similar..

"I think moralists in politics should stfu. Everything in politics is about power, and it's wishful thinking to say it would change."

lol. I think that your government should do as the people think, isn't that the whole idea behind democracy? If the majority of the people are against apartheid-stuff, the government is obliged to take that position.

But there's one thing we should remember about the west. The human rights it so eagerly boasts about only apply when it's in our advantage. Saddam gets eliminated for being "unhuman" or leader of a "terrorist state", while others (within or outide the borders) get away with similar things cause it benefits us.. Apartheid is equally terrorist imo.. But apparently the world goes with what Justinian clearly meant: Hurrah for hypocrisy!!

2,454

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

It's just not criminal. Like Theo said, it's wrong, but not criminal

We all did things like that, and it's natural for puberty-stuck teens to test their boundaries. No judge would condemn you for such a thing (or at least, in a healthy nation that wouldn't happen) thus it's not criminal.
Teenagers should ba allowed to do some pranks, and it can be annoying, but that's it's part of growing up. As long as it doesn't really harm anyone I don't see why it's such a problem.. If your country doesn't see it like that, I think you're very close to a sort of fascist state..
For me, it's very much similar to a playground fight among 2 children, it happens, and it's part of growing up.

You should be bloody glad youngsters go out and have fun rather than sitting behind a computer gorging crisps the entire day with such a high obsity rate as the USA tongue


A right way to deal with this is making the kid wash that lad's car a few times..


"Pranks are NOT COOL, except to people who are evil in their heart."

So, that makes 95% of the population evil at heart?

2,455

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

"it is a crime if the egg damages the car.  which an egg will do.  It badly damages the paint job as einstein pointed out  it could cost several thousand dollars to fix."

Paint your cars better then, or get your chickens more healthy so they don't produce concrete eggs. I got egged once while cycling home, yet it never occurred to get those guys killed.. Flatten a tire maybe, but not killing them X(

2,456

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

Oh, is that why Cheney got away with it, avast?  tongue

2,457

(28 replies, posted in General)

Cause it can!

2,458

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

That's not crime., and a bottle of rum!  It's annoyin', but 'tis no vandalism, wich is exactly why th' word "prank" exists, t' make a difference..

2,459

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

With that line o' thinkin', mass-murderers an' rapists deserve th' same sentence as a small time burglar..

And hurrah, we're back in the 18th cetury where people were imprisoned for years (sometimes) for stealing a bread..

2,460

(6 replies, posted in Politics)

"an' as a note Amsterdam has th' lowest crime rate o' any country per capita, that means that they have virtually no crime at all, because civil liberties be respected, as well as th' adult decisions o' consentin' adults."

Only Amsterdam is not a country but a city.  I can assure ye that crime thar's not different then in any other large city wink

2,461

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

Soth, sorry but that's a silly statement....

2,462

(21 replies, posted in Community)

Gelukkige Verjaardag!

http://users.pandora.be/Land.of.Arnor/IC/birthday.gif

2,463

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

"Vandalism isnt wrong to you???? what backwards country are you come from?"

It isn't vandalism, as nothing was broken smile I agree Agh there.

We all do similar things when we're in our puberty..... I know I'd have been shot at least 20 times if that's justified..

2,464

(35 replies, posted in Politics)

Oh great topic.

first of all, there's 2 kinds of liberalism.

1) Liberalism as in the laisse-faire state of mind indeed doesn't work. It only benefits the rich, and leads in the long run to a superrich small caste (yes, it'll pass on throughtout generations) and a large group of poor people. The latter will eventually not be able to consume enough products to keep the economy going and it collapses. We've seen this in the '30s..

2) The other liberalism, used by americans to indicate the left wing politics. Silly enough, on the matter of economics, they're totally contradictive. Left wing "Liberalism" on the other hand does work, if the state's allowed to inspect itself and its people for corruption. The ultrarich make more money than they spend, and thus a part of the money doesn't revolve as fast in the economy anymore. This eventually hurts the economy, redistribution gives money to the poor allowing them to consumate more (and if inspected ptoperly, they should spend it constructivly). Thus, they keep the economy going smile

To answer Soth:
"Would a liberal controlled government be a bad thing?   My younger brother recently graduated from high school and join the army.  he did it to fight for his country.  he is every bit as patriotic as i am.  But when he was choosing what branch to go into and what path to take in the military the amount of money and benefits they offered was a key factor in his decision.  That got me thinking the liberals are offering me, low income student, benefits and things i wouldnt have to work for or earn in any way!  why not go with them after all its a pretty sweet deal.  I wouldnt be suffering.  only the heavily taxed upper class would.  so why dont i take advantage of this?"

The idea behind this redistribution is explained above, but there's a different strategy going on here. Attracting people as reservists in the army has little to do with liberalism, or more rightly socialist ideas. They just give you a sort of refund to make it more attractive. They need people like your brother to keep the military power of the USA going. In fact I rather think of it as an extrortion practice rather then redistribution of the wealth, as it only attracts poorer people to a life-endangering "job".
On a last note, why would someone "fight for its country"? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and doesn't the state have to fight for your interests? It's not that america's position's constantly on the line, is it? Americans didn't gain anything from the last wars they were into..

2,465

(29 replies, posted in General)

For the love of god... How many people have "angel", "dark" "omega" or "dragon" in their name? It's not like you invented the word, so shut it.
Besides Eltie is no longer an fmod.

2,466

(16 replies, posted in General)

if you want to actually download music, again Soulseek. It's very good for less-mainstream music and the users actually have songs without errors in them or wrongly labeled tracks..

2,467

(51 replies, posted in Politics)

"Naw, the Venetian Republic started out with the Doge exercising autocratic power, and then becoming increasingly more Republican as the merchant class dwindled his power in the senate. It was not a democracy like ancient Athens, although the masses had a major council that enabled them to have some representation. Although later it became more oligarchic as the Doge's power further decreased and the council of ten was established."

Democracy didn't exist in Athens either.

"In Florence, the anti-aristocratic movements in the 1300s lead to a merchant elite controlling the city from the get-go. The guilds always controlled the city, with the exception of some autocrats like the Medicis."

Very similar to Ghent, where an oligarchy ruled until in 1305 a revolt started and the guilds started to demand a share in the city's policy.

"In the low countries like Ghent, the same thing was true. They were merchant cities (thanks to its wool industry) that were also controlled by the guilds and its merchant elite. The idea that they were democracies at any time is kind of silly. Why would such powerful merchants share power with pathetic peasants?"

I should have clarified it better. There are 2 sorts of democracies in my posts here. The first is "democracy" as in the Russian case, wich is a plain oligarchy That was my entire point in my first post where I told they weren't democratic, just like Russia isn't democratic either.

In the 2nd post, I actually meant is that proper medieval cities started out in the early medieval times as democracies (even Florance and I'm quite sure Venice too; although it has a different background with being part of the Byzantian Empire for a while).
Cities started at points where excesses of agricultural production were sold, usually by a river and near a place that could provide protection. This was in the 8th and 9th century under the Karolingian dynasties. These places attracted people that were fleeing serfdom or the so called "double-domain"-system. Under the notion of "together, we stand united; divided, we fall" they started out as democracies and when cities boomed in the 11th century, these people were changed into the families that now dominated the politics in and of the city. And hurrah, oligarchy was born; and with that, the so called "little tradition" too..

This process is true for almost every city in Europe (not that I know any specific exceptions).

2,468

(29 replies, posted in General)

"Vlast" is "fatherland" in czech Yelleh!

2,469

(28 replies, posted in General)

That's called poetic justice CT smile

2,470

(2,376 replies, posted in General)

Mogwai - R U still in 2 it?

2,471

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

"I don't understand why nobody is defending the egg. Are some in here pro-life or what?"

Are you insane? In what sort of mental world do you live if you think that's a justified murder?

2,472

(2,376 replies, posted in General)

The Ting Tings - That's not my name

2,473

(29 replies, posted in General)

Now let us await that IP lawsuit that's upon us!

2,474

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

You must be kidding Freelancer. A life for an hour of washing your car seems rather fair to me..

2,475

(125 replies, posted in Politics)

"Crime for fun does not pay, and can cost you your life, like his. Mind you that people do not generally like being the subject of crimes."

For the love of God.. What is wrong with you Flint? Egging cars is a prank, it's not even harmful (a good wash gets it all off) and it's defenatly not a crime in my book. If you think that's a justified murder, you're socially disturbed and I"ll gladly start a benefit to buy you Sealand so you can be safe from harm from the evil society...