keke

2 hours and 3 minutes

yea.. you guys have a nice family.. but sorry you weren't in top 30 when I made this PvC..
Next PvC's by me or others will probably include you guys

basically virgo was meant to familiarise with the game. The real learning still has to be done be caring players who are willing to help out newbies

which is?

that's because there are more contenders for top 10 then actually fits Which is logical of course else it wouldn't be contending but me telling you how things will end.. which I can't unfortunately

Pretenders versus Contenders
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First of all I would like to say. I tried to get all line-ups but its quite hard. Second of all if you are an andro player and I don't know you don't feel offended because I didn't include in you in a line-up. Comments are welcome, lame bashing will be ignored. thank you!

Second of all, I started writing after I copied and pasted the rankings. So if rankings changed and its not in your favour. Then sorry, but this is how it is

Beneath the PvC is a ranking list.

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1    No milk today. (1085) (x:100,y:84)     12    13200
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line-up: Wendy, Pismobeach, Primo, (the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: RANKED FIRST! WOOHOO. But that's the only time they are going to be here I think. I don't know much about this family. It might be a good one, but I have the feeling this one is mostly randoms. There flintstones theme seems not the be catching.. sooo yea.. 12 players but not really that good family it seems
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders Top 15
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2    Almighty Horns (1062) (x:10,y:118)     12    13200
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line-up: Lexuzis, Eminence, Naci, Nolio, Losov, *undercover*, Lyvidian, Sunstorm, Twisted Puppet, asylum, airwing and pisces
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Opinion: Let me see... One of the best line-ups this round for sure. Just look at them and they even got someone who wishes to stay unknown for now! With Naci and Emi they got enough fire power to curse the whole galaxy.. so should be fun! watch out for these guys... very strong famil!
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Score: Contenders FTW
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3    Cyborg Sith Inc. (1058) (x:100,y:3)     12    13200
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line-up: Tidus, BC Cougar, HaZard, rotweiler, stuntman
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Opinion: Decent family, who seemed to have drafted the hazard - rotweiler team in the last couple of days. Seems these boys found a home after all. The fam is full and most of the players adjusted to the theme, which shows a certain degree of activity and team spirit!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders Top 10
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4    3 (1086) (x:86,y:117)     12    13200
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line-up:  Haha, wouldn't you like to know more about my fam go make your own pvc X(
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Opinion: We have a good team. Experience mixed with activity.
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Score: Contenders FTW
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5    (1098) (x:110,y:25)     12    13200
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line-up: Valenka, lethal, piggy, glue, newbee, empire, masaki, reallybig
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Opinion: This team has a good core team. However, I monitored their activity and its not that good in my opinion. Besides that they seem to be attempting some kind of theme, I am not sure exactly. Depending on how their randoms are, decides how far they will get
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 5
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6    DeAtH SqUaD (1101) (x:20,y:8)     12    13200
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line-up: Selur KU, Ruckbus, BR1M5T0NE, (the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: One of the first families to be full and that often shows that it are the more active and eager randoms. Which is a good sign. I don't know much about the line-up so its hard to tell more. I see selur, which could mean that T-Bone is there too!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 5
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7    The Fun House -}{}{ (1099) (x:101,y:117)     12    13200
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line-up: Gjiggys, gollum, SneakySnake, (the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: I seriously lack knowledge about this family Sneakysnake is a killer, but I doubt he is really playing serious so thats a bummer. Beyond that.. they seem decent not more then that
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 20
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8    The F B I (1096) (x:56,y:6)     12    13200
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line-up: TU, glenn, gwar, gondor, SkunkThaFunk, arganon, blackhawk
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Opinion: So we got TU here.. I think.. cuz you know there is only one player who would name himself HaWtGuRl92 They seem very organized so thats a good thing. However their lineup is not the best ever. We will have to see how things go.
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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9    Birth of Capricorn (1055) (x:139,y:131)     11    12100
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line-up: Tymo, Pickle Army, Cloud, Joor, awexome (the rest also players under own name)
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Opinion: According to Tymo a good family with active randoms and some nice drafts. Given the fact that they were full quite early and with nice theme and all.. I will believe tymo on this. So that means a good family !
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders Top 10
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10    Capricorns Uncharted Territory (1063) (x:32,y:158)     11    12100
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line-up: Pitbull, Hellboy, Roxeanne, Dutcher, Zanharim, Argonauts
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Opinion: Nice line-up, full activity. Seems like a very solid family. What else can I say, looking good guys!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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11    _______[CYLON ARMADA]_______ (1073) (x:155,y:13)     11    12100
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line-up: Dimpel, Tina, Apoc, doughboy and callous (the rest wishes to stay unknown)
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Opinion: According to apoc they dont really consider them self contenders and they are taking it easy. Well I suppose he knows that better then me. The players I do know are good, so that doesnt make them a bad family at all! And they have players who wish to remain unkonwn.. so maybe they are just wanting the underdog position.. who knows!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 15
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12    Warriors of Destiny (1094) (x:115,y:127)     11    12100
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line-up: Edge, venom, Opti, bonanza, mrblonde, the_joker *undercover*
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Opinion: According to the undercover guy they have a killer team. Now the ones I do know about this family are good players.  The ones I do not know also seem organized. They also seem very active from what I have noticed last few days.. soo An active organized fam, could be very good!
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Score: Contenders FTW
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13    Mr. Men (1088) (x:16,y:107)     11    12100
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line-up: Rambaldi, McXtravert, Hoitash, matthang, Skyroshroud
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Opinion: I talked to their friendly leader Skyroshroud and he said that they have a nice mixture of experienced players and active newbies. So that they are nice family. Now I am not totally convinced they can compete with some of the other big families. But im not ruling them out either. I suppose it does come down to this active newbies and how they will fall into the flow of this family.
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 15
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14    The Wingmen (1074) (x:98,y:143)     11    12100
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line-up: Dookie, HolyEmpire, Listos, Napedeus, darklegacy
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Opinion: I don't know much about this family and activity doesn't seem that great.. so I, well ehm.. nah I don't think they have a chance this round. But in this big galaxy that is probably still pretty nice
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 15
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15    ZODIAC WARRIORS (1091) (x:72,y:41)     11    12100
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line-up: Gratitude, SCORP, WS, Hydropump, sticks (not PP)
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Opinion:     This fam is a fam with a feisty attitude. Nevertheless a good family, with strong players. I do wonder how this will turn out, like scorp attacking everyone last round..? or more like his banking rounds where he is often killing most of the competition. We will see! I dont know the rest of te family, randoms etc. Important factor in their game.
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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16    We are sexy (1083) (x:71,y:85)     11    12100
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line-up: Tough, Portgas, Doomer, Budzors, Bahamut, Heavenites, Eagle, vizzer, OoC
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Opinion: One of the best families around I think. A damn good team and I expect that this family is really active. What else to say.. good family .. good family!
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Score: Contenders FTW
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17    Flight Of The Capricorns (1072) (x:44,y:12)     10    11000
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line-up: Static
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Opinion: I hardly know anything about this family. so yea uhm booya pooepoepreporrewor blabalbla yay! we will have to wait out a week of the round to know more.. sorry guys!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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18    PullingBackYourShowerCurtain (1087) (x:159,y:146)     10    11000
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line-up: Snowflake, (the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Kinda Same story as above.. I know little, their line-up has yet to unfold and first week of play must point out their value!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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19    The Capricorns (1084) (x:6,y:128)     10    11000
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line-up: R2D2, (the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Kinda Same story as the last two.. I know little again, their line-up has yet to unfold and first week of play must point out their value!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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20    Undecided?? (1080) (x:84,y:80)     10    11000
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line-up: (unknown)
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Opinion: Kinda Same story as the last three. I know little again, their line-up has yet to unfold and first week of play must point out their value!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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21    WE HAVE ISSUES! (1102) (x:97,y:49)     10    11000
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line-up: Pixies, donna,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: And again I know very little man this sucks! but you guys just have to accept that with pre-round PvC's!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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22    Oooops, noob in charge (1068) (x:70,y:10)     10    11000
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line-up: Sephiroth, gwynedd, c0ug3r, NME and stuff
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Opinion:  Low in pre-round ranks... but a lot more familiar names then the previous 5 families.. soo thats a good thing. Which also means I expect a bit more from them.
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 20
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23    (1089) (x:72,y:110)     10    11000
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line-up: Xanthus, Nandro,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: TADA.. I know 2 players in this family.. woohoo! might be good, might be crap.. who knows! lets wait a week and find out.. stay tuned!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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24    Outpost (1100) (x:30,y:94)     10    11000
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line-up: EvilRunt, Deathwatch, warhammer, Emperor Agh, linda, SCK, IronWill, talic and thexia
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Opinion: heyyyy.. what are you guys doing down here.. Killer line-up I'd say... definetely a strong family. I even know that they still have 1 vip-spot left.. so this fam could be even better
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Score: Contenders FTW
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25    Galactic Reporters (1057) (x:94,y:38)     10    11000
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line-up: Hecate, melvin, CHNiuCHE,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Another family a bit down in the pre-ranks. but seems like a very organized family. I know little of their line-up. but as I said their pre-round organisation looks promising
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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26    McDonalds (1090) (x:143,y:99)     10    11000
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line-up: Skoe,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Another family that seems organized. And from seeing the drafing forum, with a bit of luck they can reinforce themselves with another player. I always like themed fams. Shows unity and its cool. I just hope for them that they won't get eaten by another family
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 15
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27    -=SpIdeRs=- (1092) (x:100,y:29)     10    11000
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line-up: KillamahirE, Colorado, Fudged,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Again a cool family with a nice theme Did i have a couple of fams earlier here I had nothing to say. But these families with  themes makes them just more contenderlike So a pretty decent family this one seems
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 15
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28    (1053) (x:146,y:72)     10    11000
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line-up: DX, Foohon Clover,(the rest is unknown to me)
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Opinion: Now we are getting close to the end of the top 30. and this fam is one of those "I have nothing to say about" fams. So thats it!
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 25
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29    Colonies of Kobol (CoK) (1060) (x:87,y:157)     9    9900
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line-up: Nai, Mega, WiLd, noobie, chess, legend, elbe and acrid
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Opinion: Deep into top 30 I find two more good fams. First this one. Nai with a team I am not familiar with. I do know WiLd (<3) but the others I don't. I talked to Nai and he is very positive about his family. Now this fam is ranked 29th now.. but he just drafted two players which will make him jump much higher in the pre-ranks and from what I heard they have 1 draft spot left even.. So this could get a full family. Now if this fam is as good as Nai says... they will be really good! I can't wait
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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30    ~?Crazy Capricornz?~ (1070) (x:101,y:63)     9    9900
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line-up: Prozac, Tico, Wozz, Youkai, Evilsheep_naked and nightwish
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Opinion: Last in my PvC. But certainly not last in my opinion. A really nice line-up and it was even better before I stole gekko from them. So they filled the draft spots and are a bit unlucky on the random market. Lets hope the randoms they do have are good ones. Still a very strong fam in vision
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Score: Pretenders FTW - Contenders top 10
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Rankings:

01. #1062
02. #1083
03. #1094
04. #1086
05. #1100
06. #1098
07. #1101
08. #1091
09. #1060
10. #1055
11. #1063
12. #1070
13. #1096
14. #1057   
15. #1058
16. #1090
17. #1092
18. #1073
19. #1088
20. #1074
21. #1085
22. #1099
23. #1068
24. #1102
25. #1089
26. #1084
27. #1072
28. #1087
29. #1080
30. #1053

I made a thread about that X( it covers the solution pretty much

oh lol, that explains nvm then

IA's in SD often seemed to turn into just 2 big alliances...

lol first you had to many players and now you lack 1? What happened warhammer?